Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Horizon Burning: Oct 23, 2019

Dogeh posted:

Looking back at that Star Wars video, I always remember Luke having a failed run, back in 1977.
But then it disappeared from the versions after that, and I became confused.
gently caress you, Geroge Lacus.

It was never in the 1977 version.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2019 02:20

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 23:16

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Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/SpearmintVR/status/1196258819573198848

i love how anime has rotted the brains of a whole generation

# ¿ Nov 21, 2019 06:07

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holy poo poo the bear made it into the loving mosaic

# ¿ Nov 24, 2019 01:35

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Beet Wagon posted:

It's actually a fair bit worse than even the fact that both ships look like poo poo, although the new Mustang actually looks decent in my opinion:

Looks like a GTF Aurora.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2019 06:33

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jarlywarly posted:

The rumour with Warcraft is that it was going to be a Warhammer fantasy licenced game and Games Workshop pulled out so they redid the lore aspects.

not a rumor, blizzard admitted in an interview a few years back that they were trying for it. you can even recolor some of the units (wolves to boars, for example) to see just how much they based on it

# ¿ Jan 1, 2020 14:03

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Fargin Icehole posted:

I made a post awhile back about seemingly failed kickstarters and was rebuked by plenty of great examples.

Thinking about it some more I was primarily focused on video games that we're headed by a known name in the industry. If we use this criteria, the only one I can think of would be Koji Igarashi's Bloodstained?

I personally played this one and had a shitload of fun and felt that it was worth the wait. It had regular updates, a side mini game that is an actual game and it's basically Castlevania 3 with modern mechanics.

Who else is on the list of popular industry developers and producers?

Keiji Inafune's Mighty No. 9 was pretty disappointing, with it's legendary mismanagement being more interesting than the game itself.

Julian Gollop of X-Com Fame's Phoenix Point, same thing.

Yu Suzuki's Shenmue 3 just makes me want to play Yakuza instead.

Richard Garriot's Shroud of the Avatar has already been covered here and in the MMO thread, it's a horribly mismanaged flop.

I'm sure there is a name or two I missed but they can't hold a candle to star citizen.

The cream of the crop is Chris Roberts,who accidentally turned the game into a religion for it's fans and only had concepts and demos desguised as already functional mechanics in a video game and people fell for it. Hell, I almost fell for it back in early 2013.

Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian. Massively successful initial Kickstarter but the game itself was so bad that the (much better, improved) sequel only made a fraction of its budget back and was such a flop that Obsidian got bought out by Microsoft

# ¿ Jan 3, 2020 23:47

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*crobbler worms his way out of the mess, easily*

"ah, well, nevertheless!"

# ¿ Jan 25, 2020 06:03

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Elderbean posted:

Just imagine what any competent dev could have done with that much free money and good will.

imagine what 250 people with a desire to create something and an idea of their limits could do with one million dollars each

# ¿ Jan 26, 2020 14:33

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Agony Aunt posted:

It would be very interesting if they had lied to the courts and Crytek about the state of SQ42. I've no idea how the law handles things like this. I know about double jepoardy and how it stops you being procecuted twice for the same crime, but there must be some fallback against that.

Imagine if you killed someone, was tried for it, found innocent, and then you revealed the corpse and said "Ha ha! I did kill them you suckers!"

I think in the States you could get away with that (unless they charge you in a different level of court?), but I think in a lot of other countries there's basically a 'substantial new evidence' exception. Not a lawyer. I feel like proof of lying would constitute a mistrial but I've got no idea if that can be leveraged retroactively.

# ¿ Feb 21, 2020 14:28

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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

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A rare sighting of the now extinct Toastius gullibilium

unless this is a very rascist joke, that's not toast/moma

# ¿ Mar 1, 2020 04:15

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Rectal Death Adept posted:

Toast was a paralegal for CIG who appeared on some of their livestreams and it was obvious it was his first job. Just some super young guy who was breaking into the industry.

ManOfManyAliases was a backer that registered here to valiantly defend the game, for a period of years. Thousands of UM ACTUALLY posts defending the game. One of his favorite routes was to come out with really stupid and childish defenses of CIG's legal fuckups.

Things like
- "Shell Company #7 is named slightly differently than Shell Company #12 which was named in the complaint. Therefore this structural flaw in the argument negates all complaints, contracts and legal liabilities."
- "CIG's TOS being changed to remove the references to delivery timeframes and refunds in 2016 was fine because they never said they wouldn't update their TOS and the new TOS is a TOS so it's a binding document."
- "CIG modifying Cryengine and claiming it was Lumberyard was 100% fine since Lumberyard was a modified Cryengine anyway. So they are essentially the same thing."

Just that really dumb, weasel way of muddying the waters.

It was suspected they were an employee of CIG since it was hard to believe that any backer of the game would have that much invested in countering the narrative of the Something Awful threads. They were the best source of Star Citizen news on the internet with internal leaks and discussion that couldn't be banned by CIG's forum authoritarian bullshit. Some people speculated it was in CIG's best interest to install a third party that was speaking to the worldwide crowd reading our threads, and not the SA posters themselves. Someone to "UM ACTUALLY I SAW A SECRET VERSION OF SQUADRON 42 AND IT IS CLOSE TO Q4 2017 RELEASE" in the middle of the thread whenever there was a leak that Chris Roberts was demanding someone spend weeks designing a single jacket and blowing 50,000,000$+ on motion capturing janitors and bartenders.

Toast was the easiest comparison to make between the obvious shill and a real person inside the company, since an idiot fresh out of law school would be the one trying to Matlock CIG out of legally having to provide a product or return the money they received in exchange for that product in such stupid ways.

I guess they still post but they were probably always just a backer who spent $10,000+ on spaceships and really needed to hear the things they were saying in defense of their buyer's remorse.

They also had the same Kickstarter belt.

# ¿ May 31, 2020 06:44

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I guess people missed that BnR is run by sexpest admins. It'd suck to lose this thread but I'm not going over there.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2020 07:01

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Funion posted:

I don't know if anyone really cares but let me clarify the D&D/CSPAM differences as someone heavily involved in politics (and CSPAM):

D&D is a subforum largely for those who still believe in electoral politics. Posters here are usually socially left but economically center. They either believe capitalism can be salvaged or reformed to welfare capitalism / socialism through voting within the system.

CSPAM is a subforum largely populated by leftists who either don't care about electoral politics or use it merely as a tool on the way towards the death of capitalism. Posters here are usually socially left and economically left. Most users don't believe capitalism can be abolished by working in the system.

I see shitposting in CSPAM as dark humor, and a way to cope with the new horrors of each day. It reminds me of how we used to cope when I worked as an EMT. The TRUMP thread is full shitposting now because of how comically horrific Trump is. In most of the other threads you'll find bits of theory, debate, and deliberation, but the desperate humor is always there. D&D and CSPAM came together for a bit on Bernie, for different reasons, but now they are distinct again (Biden and Tara Reade).

Anyways CSPAM = a solid leftist space, not necessarily just a place to shitpost.

B&R is much the same, with less shitposting. It's a good place to go if you're a leftist. Not sure it will matter though since the forums might survive, but I haven't caught up on the forum crisis so who knows.

ho fan posted:

There are 8 topics in the real life activism forum and 134 in the moderation complaints forum.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2020 13:01

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Hazamuth posted:

Go ask around CSPAM thread about lowtax or offsites as they could probably answer. From what I've seen there has been some outright wrong information floating around BnR during this shitshow but I am not really in a position to provide accurate information myself as I only frequent (lurk) some topics around CSPAM. CSPAM has also had actual grievances with moderation and lt before regarding banning of posters, so there is some history there.

Yeah, even from what I saw Torquemada's report is about half of what I've seen over the past day, but tracking it down is difficult. Wait and see whether Jeffrey can actually get the forum off Lowtax first, I think.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2020 14:00

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Blue On Blue posted:

what ever could you mean

what in the gently caress

# ¿ Aug 8, 2020 08:17

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I said come in! posted:

Except that EA Games did not ruin Anthem, Bioware did. EA had to step in and ask Bioware what the gently caress they were doing, because they were multiple years into development with absolutely nothing to show for it, and then Bioware made the choice to finish Anthem within 9 months. And how did Bioware do this? By forcing their employees to work 100 hour weeks for all 9 months of development. EA keeps being made out to be the bad guy in all of this stuff, but then you find out well after the fact that these game studios that EA has to reign in, were poorly managed.

It's similar to how EA didn't ruin ME3. The ending did. When the backlash to the ending happened, EA gave Bioware money to fix it, hence the Extended Cut or whatever. EA knew Bioware had murdered their golden goose! The blame for ME3, Andromeda, and Anthem rests entirely on Bioware's shoulders.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2020 07:10

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this imperator election thing has to be one of the dumbest loving things among a long list of dumb loving things about this stupid game

# ¿ Oct 12, 2020 03:14

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Razakai posted:

Serious question about SC - let's say you ignored the bugs and the cash required to actually have a ship, and wanted to just fly around and shoot some pirates. Is that actually possible currently, and are the systems relatively robust (different weapons, gear, ship styles etc)?

# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 14:23

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vtuber culture is the ghastly, inevitable end result of influencers. entirely corporatized where there's no chance that a single person can use their own likeness to negotiate with. someone gets uppity behind the scenes? swap 'em out. the fact that it's anime is just the cherry on this particular late capitalism poo poo sundae.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 10:12

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he was an employee

# ¿ Jan 27, 2021 02:54

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UnknownTarget posted:

I was listening to this breakdown of the worst jobs in Warhammer 40k because Youtube's algo suggested it after watching a streamer get into WH40k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI29i9abAJ8

All I could think was that WH40k is the socially acceptable version of the Stimpire. How are people into this stuff?

40k started as basically a fairly obvious satire about the dark future that fascism, religious totalitarianism, and such would create.

however, it's questionable how long that held out. i know by the time i quit playing 40k about a decade ago, there was no shortage of people who were a bit too into the imperium of man. it didn't help that a lot of the material that GW had put out saw the imperium as the good guys - a necessary evil. it's been confounded more during recent releases where, like, the problem with the imperium is religion and there's a new imperium which is still an orgy of necessary evil fascism but with a 'we're the real good guys' veneer. it's closely related to how alt-right people love to shout DEUS VULT and such.

of course, my first ever experience with Warhammer fandom was finding a flier that featured the imperial aquila and it turned out to be a white power organization, and this was back in the 90s, so...

# ¿ Mar 2, 2021 03:16

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oh yeah and they've put out children's books - as opposed to books for manchildren - where the kids are like, yeah, the only good mutant is a dead mutant and i'm not exactly one to clutch pearls about the media kids consume but i'm not sure it's responsible to aim your grimdark satire universe at a reading age of 8-12.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2021 03:24

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Zaphod42 posted:

https://twitter.com/Why485/status/1370219100560035841?s=20

At least one of CIG's big selling features they spent all that money on is now a free built-in feature of Unreal

uh fud much goonie?? cig obviously sold the tech to unreal

# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 05:04

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iirc the crew of the scorpion is one only for a spartan or someone with a neural interface, but it only seems to have the one seat anyway

# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 01:34

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The Titanic posted:

The wing commanders I liked, because I know you want to know

Wing commander 1 looked interesting but it was kind of repetitive and was not super engaging, but it was sooo pretty and I loved Origin

Wing commander 2 I liked the story but the gameplay was really poor

Wing commander 3 I liked it be because ET did a piece on it and it had Mark Hamill and Malcolm McDowell in it, but I did not like the actual story and I feel they did the friendly cat a disservice to his whole point of being and it was a train wreck

Wing commander 4 Same as 3 but less enthusiastic, and this one was really pushing it because I remember they refused to use video card acceleration and it did not run super great and the story was kind of dumb with dumb bad guys that did dumb stuff

Privateer because it was just kind of fun to do whatever you wanted story be damned, the sprites were not great though but better than 2

Freelancer this was the funnest one I think and I enjoyed playing it the most, I don't even remember what the story was but talking to people was always hilarious because of how they strung the sound files together

Prophecy no. This should have never existed

Starlancer this was sooo dumb. But it seems like it's the universe SC is most trying to be like. The missions were long and super hard with difficulty curves all over the place. It was super frustrating and was really not even good to watch for the dumb story

the funniest thing about wing commander 4 is just how obviously star trek: into darkness ripped it off

# ¿ Mar 30, 2021 01:25

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Lammasu posted:

So it doesn't make any God damned sense?

a decorated navy guy uncovers a plot by a rogue admiral to use genetic supermen as part of a conspiracy to spark a war with an enemy state. the admiral has a super warship and thinks the government is weak and needs to be militarized. the climax is a race to earth between the hero ship and the super warship and a final confrontation in earth orbit and on earth itself.

i was losing my mind in the theatre.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2021 03:32

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commando in tophat posted:

I still have no idea about this piece of stare citizen lore. Is this just some commando with alt called toast? Is there a story behind this that doesn't just end with a wet fart?

moma was almost certainly toast, a member of CIG's team. iirc, they had a particular rare belt that matched. additionally, he was clearly only here to monitor this thread and tried to discredit derek and others (i don't think he ever posted in any other SA thread) and seems to have vanished now that the big controversies have died down.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2021 09:54

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Zaphod42 posted:

It is a "significant overhaul of the creation engine" so loving lmao

lol cool, guess I'm not purchasing starfield then lmao

# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 07:17

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skeletors_condom posted:

This is one of the more normal photoshops. Anyone know the OG source?

Makes sense that the actual pic with Mrs Roberts is legit and AdzAdama photoshopped the SC logo. Although I always thought this was a legit component of CIG's marketing.

pacific rim

# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 15:03

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speaking of respawn systems... in city of heroes, there's 'mediporters' which conveniently teleport you to hospital just before you die. there's a quest where a 'terrorist group' is trying to give mediporters to everyone but you stop them and give them only to the sick and elderly lmao

# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 07:13

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trucutru posted:

Jax Mccleary is back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91FuH77lPzk&t=4s

Get ready for the annual buy-a-thon.

i feel like this whole not-top gear thing is one of the top ten weirdest things about star citizen.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2021 07:19

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derek smart exists in the minds of the space shooter community because not only is he the dude who made battlecruiser 3000AD, but he also once threatened to purchase the freespace IP and make his own games in the universe. he did this by coming over to the freespace 2 fan community forums and basically gloating that he'd do it and then cease and desist all their fan projects. this led to fan projects featuring derek smart as an antagonist.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2021 01:11

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tbqh there's probably value in creating a easy-to-read and shareable timeline of bizarre star citizen poo poo

# ¿ Feb 11, 2022 04:15

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A co-worker said to me today that he's bought into star citizen because of some youtube videos so what the gently caress

# ¿ May 13, 2022 08:20

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did the agent ever post that stuff he had about star citizen's funding or whatever

# ¿ Feb 21, 2023 14:17

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lmao, looks like starfield is crashing and burning, chris roberts leads a charmed loving life

# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 10:46

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 23:16

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starfield died because it's loving gamebryo and that engine was at its absolute limit back in fallout 4, they can't push it any further and starfield still looks and feels like a particularly good fallout 3 total conversion mod. lol Bethesda can fix gamebryo, they just need more time with it, come onnnnnnn

# ¿ Apr 15, 2024 09:45

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