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I cannot believe I finally caught up with the wrestling questions thread O.K. here it comes, my question that does not deserve its own thread: Why did the Initiative break up the moment I bought their shirt Almost as importantly, why does nobody ever talk about the WWC when saying "all" American territories died? Sounds like they have been plugging right along down there since the 1970s and even doing fairly good business in the process. I imagine the answer is just "people do not think of Puerto Rico as America"
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Lid posted:Rock v Hogan at WrestleMania for reasons that are still inexplicable. I do not think I have seen it since Hogan was revealed as yet another kind of bad man but drat if that match, especially the opening eternal staredown, was not always exhilarating to re-watch
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Mar 26, 2022 07:10
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Wow, I seriously thought I remembered them blaming the fact that Montreal always had strange loyalties on commentary. If that even happened at all I imagine it was "Canada" (or I suppose Toronto, obvs)
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Mar 26, 2022 15:12
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CommonShore posted:I typed up and deleted a post about this because I couldn't find the right words, but it boiled down to me feeling the exact same way about JJ in this era's intercontinental title/midcard picture as I did about HHH in the main event/world title picture - I just hated seeing them on my tv at all and, in the case if HHH especially, it was what drove me away from wrestling. I also typed up and deleted a post unfairly calling Kip Sabian the Jeff Jarrett of AEW, as clearly he is very talented even if it felt like his character was "a wrestler" I did very occasionally enjoy watching Jarrett get his rear end kicked, though, especially that squash where Christian should have won the... European? belt, which elevates him above, say, X-Factor
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Mar 29, 2022 22:40
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Slapnuts is fairly close to a Dick Tracy villain name I think Maybe Hartface
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Apr 1, 2022 04:30
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The jive-talking African "Dream" white boy. Which is actually a more subtle jab. Which is why I am never entirely convinced it was Vince's idea
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Apr 4, 2022 22:25
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Abadon is the best and I want to be her friend Her recent matches do show quite a notable progression in her character, though. I want to say it was just last week on Dark or Elevation that she did like an "I own you" hand gesture that is thematically miles away from being a literal zombie but it also totally worked.
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Apr 5, 2022 22:59
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Well poo poo now I will never be Abadon's friend after that botch 
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Apr 6, 2022 00:16
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In theory, having an amazing unbeatable champion is cool, and there were probably points you could argue Roman Reigns was a better champion than whoever AEW had at the time. But the fact that I almost bet [whatever maximum the betting agency would allow] on Roman to win despite not watching WWE because you do not need to watch WWE to know how Roman Reigns matches are going to go, well, that is really not so good. I bet Cody really believes he is going to be allowed to beat Roman, hahahaha (I say this, then Paul Heyman turns on Roman to join Cody and starts wearing polka dots en route to Cody squashing Reigns in a coal miner's glove match) But yeah I love thinking about Vince absolutely planning on the Rock beating Roman at Wrestlemania next year and then the Rock does not agree to do it and so Roman just keeps the belt against, hmm, Bron Breakker, only to lose it at Wrestlemania 40 to Goldberg
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Apr 7, 2022 05:56
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D.N. Nation posted:The whole "this is all leading to the Rock" idea from the Fed is crazy because.....there's no way you actually have Rock win, right?
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Apr 7, 2022 18:58
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Edge & Christian posted:While it may have been an attempt to stay relevant, the Hulk Hogan War Bonnet was from late 1988, so prior to Wrestlemania V, so credit to him at least for flailing and trying poo poo like this when he was still actually on top.
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Apr 11, 2022 20:54
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sticklefifer posted:
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Apr 15, 2022 15:22
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They even wrote extended fictional canon for her nu metal band.
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I remember enjoying the Oddities vs. KAI EN TAI match but something tells me if I went back and watched it now I would not, in fact, be impressed with Giant Silva's performance
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Apr 18, 2022 04:01
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Low blow Foreign object Vexatious glance Astonished query Gun
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Apr 20, 2022 02:34
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What I like about him is that when I first saw him pop up in something (I want to say Wrestling With Wregret?) I was like "did we really need a 1970s/1980s horror host wrestling character?" and by the third time I saw him I was like "actually I think we did" I do suspect if he were not like palpably a good person the gimmick would really not work, though. Watching him eat tacos with Thunder Rosa was a wonderful experience Side note, I am so glad my two favorites from the initial NWA renaissance (Ricky Starks and Thunder Rosa) get to come out with belts every week now. Though RIP Question Mark
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Apr 21, 2022 19:08
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It will absolutely be hilarious if in like five years he disappears for six months and comes back noticeably more jacked and speaking with an affected lower voice ala Undertaker and introduces himself as Jungle Man
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Apr 24, 2022 22:56
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fez_machine posted:That raises a question how many more "Man" names are there than "Boy/Kid" names? Steve Blackman Nelson Mandela Versus Boysenberry Kid
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Apr 25, 2022 02:26
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Inverting these is bringing me endless joy The Hitlad Harvey Whipplechild Heartbreak Man Big Boss Boy 1-2-3 Sir Macho Kid
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Apr 25, 2022 04:16
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I really do not understand how anyone can hate Nick Aldis, even if I can certainly understand not thinking he is fantastic. I love his "blatantly trying to be a Serious 1980s Babyface" gimmick personally, though I do agree it could not possibly work anywhere he was not one of the top guys by default. Also M-Dogg20/Matt Cross is, like, O.K. Here is the thing. Not all of you are old enough to have gone through a phase where the only digital wrestling videos you could get were clips from KaZaA. I am going to say literally 50% of all the wrestling clips I remember finding in those days (that were not of big-league wrestlers) were of M-Dogg20 doing (for the time) amazing flippy moves off of various things in various people's backyards (or, presumably, eventually CZW rings or whatever). He was probably just good at self-promotion, but it certainly made it seem like this dude was so good that he was about to break into the big leagues despite (as Forkboy84 pointed out) it being almost unheard of for an obvious backyard guy to make the jump at that point. I remember us trying to figure out in my indy fed who the hell M-Dogg20 actually was to see if we could maybe get him to come in and do a match, but I certainly never heard of anyone determining how to contact him at the time (our fed also folded in 2003, and these conversations probably would have been more like 2002, so maybe he was not hard to find for long but certainly at that point he seemed to be)
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May 3, 2022 05:05
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If we believe Wikipedia, Showdown at Shea actually predated all of those named boxing exhibitions, as it occurred three times, with the first instance in 1972. Pedro Morales and Bruno Sammartino in a 75-minute draw, huh. I am trying to picture if the crowd would have been more rabid for the match itself or the finish
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May 3, 2022 13:32
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projecthalaxy posted:2. This card was like 5 years removed from "5 [poc slur] vs An Orangutan" being the undercard attraction give em a break
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May 4, 2022 15:21
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I was wondering similar, as Jora Johl apparently just noticed Matt Hardy leaving his faction
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May 11, 2022 04:53
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Obviously "annnnnnd NEWWWWW!" is always a lovely moment, but every time I hear it I keep thinking there is some famous "annnnnd STIIIIIIILL!!!" moment that got a huge pop, which suggests to me it was in a match with some sort of wonky uncertain finish, or else the audience would have already hit the big pop from the face champion winning the match. Is there a specific match I am thinking of? What do you mean you do not know my brain!? It is also certainly possible that has happened a dozen times and I am having a hard time remembering what match it was precisely because I am just merging a bunch of different moments together
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May 12, 2022 17:04
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If anything is hurting AEW now it is that somehow the current holders of the two most major men's belts are cutting fewer promos and having fewer matches. I mean in Hangman's case that is probably true and due to circumstances out of his control, but how did Jurassic Express get less interesting? And no I do not think the lack of Marko Stunt was a big factor, though honestly it did probably impact their overall presence, not that I am a huge fan of Marko's.
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May 16, 2022 04:32
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For clarification, despite sort of starting the Jurassic Express conversation, I have a Luchasaurus shirt and love him dearly and am definitely a fan of Jungle Boy, which is why I am confused how it seemed like they have had less attention focused on them since winning the belts. It does probably help that I enjoy Luchasaurus promos and they are now functionally absent, per Projecthalaxy's comment Ricky Starks is probably my favorite all-around AEW talent though*, though I also quite like Hobbs, Swerve, and Keith Lee too, so I really imagine whatever happens next will be great *and he needs at least one t-shirt that does not look like it is advertising a male escort, not that this is inappropriate for his gimmick at all
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May 16, 2022 17:54
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I am glad there is someone else who absolutely loved the Blue Blazer as a kid and never understood why that was seen as a bad time (well other than obviously Owen not having wanted to do it, which, fair enough)
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May 30, 2022 02:43
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Still mad about them not picking Jake from that swerve ending Tough Enough class, especially because I seem to recall he just disappeared forever from the business as a result.
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May 30, 2022 14:12
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I will never forget having Colt Cabana hyped up to me as hilarious and my first time seeing him being the Chicago Ring of Honor blowoff match against Homicide "He's like the funniest indy guy!" *murders a man*
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Jun 1, 2022 01:28
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Devon Storm did wrestle in ECW and is still active but I doubt anyone you would have to check "did he actually wrestle in ECW?" is who you mean. Christopher Daniels would count too, or at least I do not think he formally retired yet
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Jun 1, 2022 17:54
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Thanks to that video of Killer Kross doing an amazing Jesse Ventura impression, I am thinking Jesse and Excalibur would have been an amazing combination
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Jun 8, 2022 15:57
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I actually immediately envisioned him berating Excalibur for not having been in the ring with "real men back in the day" so clearly this pairing is developing nicely
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Jun 8, 2022 18:44
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Eddie Kingston and Lulu Pencil Edit: This is a fun time to post the realization I had sometime last year, that 20 years ago I hoped beyond hope that J.R. would be the only one talking during a women's match because it was so cringeworthy otherwise, and now in AEW J.R. is the one I hope does not talk during a women's match
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Jun 8, 2022 23:20
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I remember Paul Heyman and J.R. being my favorite commentary team ever at the time, so perhaps Paul Heyman and Excalibur would actually be even more amazing than Jesse Ventura an Excalibur.
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Jun 9, 2022 06:01
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I know it was just the alliteration, but I remember being 100% convinced from his name alone that Lex Luger was the baddest dude in the world except for maybe Hulk Hogan. I mean, when I was 10. I bet I would have loved Bruiser Brody
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Halloween Jack posted:What did you think of Hardcore Holly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKc7M7QQKSs&t=7s Also about Mark Madden, it drives me crazy that I cannot remember why I hated him before he started commentary on Nitro. I remember when my friends heard he was being hired a few of us were like WHAT THE gently caress WHY WOULD HE GET THAT JOB but looking at his Wikipedia it basically is like "he was born, told Hank Aaron that Bill Watts was racist, and then was hired to do commentary on Nitro" but I am 100% sure I both did not know about the Hank Aaron thing nor would I have had anything but love in my heart for him in that situation, so... no clue. Edit: Pope Corky the IX posted:Mark Madden would also reference CRZ live on air while insisting that he was an internet nobody.
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Jun 9, 2022 19:22
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CarlCX posted:The mass spectrum of wrestler name puns on the internet have always sucked and objectively the only difference is I was a kid at the time but "Raymond Stereo" has stuck with me for multiple decades. Also he is singlehandedly responsible for me knowing the extremely important wrestling move name "Okie blow" thanks to the infamous "DOUBLE DOUBLE OKIE BLOW!!!" recap when Benoit and Malenko did said move twice each to someone simultaneously Basically I hope CRZ can see this and knows he is loved, even though of course like all 1990s Internet personalities he is probably a terrible libertarian projecthalaxy posted:Whomst or whatst is "CRZ" in this context because I'm guessing its not the old Honda model Was it Scott Keith who was the world's biggest piece of poo poo and lied about pops if he did not like the person getting them and hated literally everything about wrestling?
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Jun 9, 2022 19:37
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"1, 2, you know, actually, if he gets the three here, it'll be--" "Dave, I think--" "Just let me finish, if he gets the three here, that'll actually be, well you know not the actual first time," *match ended 30 seconds previously* "but the first time since, I want to say the first time since his brief heel run back in 2013 that he actually got him down for even a long 2, let alone" *commercial break starts* edogawa rando posted:Ask the Rick  RICK SCAIA THE MEMORIES AHHHHHH NOOOOOO MAKE THEM STOP FLOODING BACK
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Jun 9, 2022 20:35
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Defenestrategy posted:I was watching a random interview and it unlocked the hidden memory of that time WWE tried to make their own social media platform which failed, then jumped on tout for some reason before that failed and finally decided to jump on twitter. I guess I probably did hear of it like eighth-hand, but I could not have possibly cared much less about wrestling in 2008 so no surprise this is basically news to me
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Jun 13, 2022 21:13
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I wonder if it would have been better if Hogan had ended Goldberg's streak Goldberg had already beaten Hogan, so it would have been like "of course Hogan had to get his win back" which would have been less surprising than what ended up happening (or wait did Goldberg not beat Hogan until after that? I do not remember anything anymore) But maybe at the time Nash doing it seemed at least like maybe an improvement, even though in hindsight I think I would have rather it been Hogan?
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I remember the first time Nash defended his actions by saying "someone had to break the streak" I thought to myself "I feel like Goldberg basically won the title and then Nash beat him immediately," and if that was seriously all his big-time defenses then that pretty much confirms it. I guess by 1998 standards having three title defenses was not that short, but uh, yeah, he probably should have beaten someone besides DDP who had actually held the belt before. Wait and DDP had not held it yet, ugh
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