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BonoMan posted:That poor UPS driver was a father of two covering the route for a coworker. But yeah lets blame him. Goddamn this country sucks. like how the gently caress can anyone blame him, he was a loving hostage who probably got smoked by some cop who wanted to play action hero or got smoked by one of the wannabe mr. blondes. either way he isnt at fault.
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Nothing infuriates me like gay Trump supporters/republicans. How dare you people support a party that wishes people like me deserve 0 rights
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GreyjoyBastard posted:this article is great Extreme Howard Hughes energy
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Nothing infuriates me like gay Trump supporters/republicans. How dare you people support a party that wishes people like me deserve 0 rights On my experience, most lgbt Trump supporters want to be seen as one of the good ones and/or are racist, transphobic, self hating or otherwise. Being LGBT doesn't suddenly make you immune to being bigoted.
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I wouldn't bank on any voting block to save Florida. Between one of the worst state level Democrat organizations, one of the best GOP organizations, and all the fuckery of voter suppression and blue dogs, this state is a loving crapshoot every time. There's good chance Desantis is going to run out the clock on restoring the voting rights of felons. The FL Supreme Court is 100% in the GOP's hands. I guarantee there's a lot of "primary residence" voter fraud from the rich olds. And then lol Broward County. A solid portion of the Puerto Rican voters broke for Rick Scott last election. ummel fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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mod sassinator posted:Jesus, think of all the stray bullets hitting cars in traffic too. The pigs killed the robbers, UPS hostage and a bystander.
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CascadeBeta posted:A lot of the anti trans arguments are anti gay arguments recycled after they lost the marriage equality fight. It's extremely blatent. What's concerning isn't so much the arguments (which as you say are the same nonsense they have been using forever), it is them laundering it through a new set of mouthpieces which many don't yet realize are merely fronts for Evangelical bigotry. They aren't exactly being subtle about it but they don't really have to be in order to catch traction and hurt people in the short term.
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CascadeBeta posted:On my experience, most lgbt Trump supporters want to be seen as one of the good ones and/or are racist, transphobic, self hating or otherwise. Being LGBT doesn't suddenly make you immune to being bigoted. My experience has been they just dont give a poo poo about anyone but themselves and are financially secure enough to not care about anti-lgbt legislation.
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quote:Our side concocted the ‘bathroom safety’ male predator argument as a way to avoid an uncomfortable battle over LGBT ideology, and still fire up people’s emotions. It worked in Houston a few years ago
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VH4Ever posted:Him loving up PR to the point where its refugees hand him defeat in FL would be poetic justice. Rooting for this now. Sadly I believe voter registration of Puerto Ricans is unusually low?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Boy that government funding is really helping mitigate the situation at these camps Reminder: Doctors were barred from giving flu vaccines
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mod sassinator posted:Jesus, think of all the stray bullets hitting cars in traffic too. These loving cops are out of control....
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Ratoslov posted:'Isn't that just the American flag?' is a pretty good shitpost. Thank you all for explaining it, it was a genuine question.
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mcmagic posted:These loving cops are out of control.... Police training in the US is 99% "Don't increase our insurance premiums!!!" and 1% "Try not to say the N-word on the radio" With like one class one time on use of force and 15 minutes a year at the range.
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Vichan posted:Thank you all for explaining it, it was a genuine question. 
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Cops are trash and can't shoot for poo poo. Reminder that cops were used to heavy trigger pulls on their revolvers of 12 lbs or more. When departments started switching to Glocks, they started getting "Glock Leg" shooting themselves in the thigh when they tried to draw like they did with their revolvers... with the trigger Instead of realizing "hey, most guns have trigger pulls in the 4 lb range and target triggers less than that, maybe we should retrain" they made Glock make custom 12 lb triggers 12 lbs of squeezing force guarantees you're not going to be accurate, because your hand will be shaking so much from the force you won't be able to hit much (and cops are notoriously bad shots already)
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Imagine thinking that someone is going to escape in a UPS truck while you have air support, heavy traffic, daytime conditions, and dozens of radio-equipped cops in eyeball range of the GIANT BROWN TRUCK and not just following it until it runs out of gas/crashes/etc. Even if they hadn't killed someone, forcing them into a shootout was reckless disregard for the safety of virtually everyone in a 500yd radius.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:I guess you’re right. If only there was some recent example, where a president half-heartedly and clumsily manufactured an clear and present danger to the US, so he could attack a country - which despite being almost immediately disproven upwards *checks watch* 60% of Americans still believe is the case and support - I could point to and say; maybe you’re a little too confident there friend. Also, I think you’re underestimating how broadly and deeply the fetishization of the military in general, the personnel, combat action running across the screen, and ‘support R troops’, really runs. I dunno, I think Iraq prompted different reactions than Iran would now based on the fact 9/11 was really recent and was a huge driving factor behind the public's opinion. Now after nearly 20 years of being locked in a constant grind of war over there people are getting tired of it. It's become less of a "We'll steamroll our way through and have punch and pie in Bagdad" now than it was then. Especially given how much saber ratling's been going on against Iran since the loving 70's
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BonoMan posted:That poor UPS driver was a father of two covering the route for a coworker. But yeah lets blame him. Goddamn this country sucks. I’m gonna put myself at some risk here and note that I actually recently started working in the corporate section of UPS and the reaction here is generally just to be stunned. Even in Texas where Republicans are common people are outraged. We’re discussing the prospect of putting a fund together for the family but I’m not sure where that will go.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:like how the gently caress can anyone blame him, he was a loving hostage who probably got smoked by some cop who wanted to play action hero or got smoked by one of the wannabe mr. blondes. either way he isnt at fault. That's what the gun cult is about - it's a fiction people tell themselves so they can believe bad things won't happen to them. While they ARE blaming the victim, that's not the point - the point is to say "this wouldn't happen to me". Which is a complete lie, but hey
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That UPS shooting isn't the only major shooting to happen specifically in Florida in the last twelve hours. There was another one this morning at Pensacola Naval Air Station. And that apparently is only the second shooting to specifically happen in a naval yard just this week. Extremely normal country. IBroughttheFunk fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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robotsinmyhead posted:Imagine thinking that someone is going to escape in a UPS truck while you have air support, heavy traffic, daytime conditions, and dozens of radio-equipped cops in eyeball range of the GIANT BROWN TRUCK and not just following it until it runs out of gas/crashes/etc. If they hadn't killed everyone, good and bad alike, though, the bad guys may have hurt the hostages. And that woudl be worse because
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Bye bitch https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1202976217659576321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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COOL CORN posted:They were using long guns with 5.56 at point blank range, which has enough velocity to go through that first layer of siding on the truck, right on through the other side, and then through the next two cars’ windows. My dad is an ex-cop and he was horrified by this. These cops deserve prison, every last one of them. I balked again when I saw the one trying to defend them as "well one probably accidentally fired so the rest thought they were being shot at". gently caress, and you want these guys to come respond to your aid when you have a problem? I think it'd be safer for you to put the assailant's gun in your mouth than it would be to rely on the cops, at least the crim knows he'll get a harsher sentence (if he lives through the impending execution when the cops do arrive) and will be less inclined to pull the trigger for no reason
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SKULL.GIF posted:Boy that government funding is really helping mitigate the situation at these camps I mean, he died in May and the funding was passed at the end of June. His death was in fact one of the catalysts behind getting the funding passed as pointed out in the ProPublica piece. I'm not here to stan for Pelosi and child death camps but "funding didn't fix things because this kid died" isn't what this story is about.
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Anyone who hasn't watched News Dude's recent one on police training, now is an appropriate time. Touches on some of the reasons why so many cops are such triggerhappy dickhole trash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzQrbio2Qw
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Failed Imagineer posted:The man never watched a Bond movie in his life. 007 was also a German Tiger I commanded my Michael Wittmann, a German tank ace, when he was killed.
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Dammit_Carl! posted:re: violent rhetoric In the 2016 election the Arizona GOP mailed its registered voters ads implying they'll tell your conservative neighbors if you didn't vote. It of course didn't actually happen... but was it really just a campaign gimmick or did they just not bother because they won? 
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Nonsense posted:loving porkbelly motherfuckers https://twitter.com/rklueber28/status/1202746837758889984 There was absolutely no reason for this and bystander death from a stray bullet in that heavy traffic was easily predictable. Really loving pisses me off.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The trick is the electoral college because she still won by 3 million votes Yeah Trump only needs to continue conning a bunch of white people in Wisconsin, and the past ten years shows this works even more than half the time. Hell, Walker barely lost last year and that was a wave election. He’s got a lot of things going against him too, but there’s no reason to assume it won’t be close, and certainty on the outcome is a dumb bet when elections are close. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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VH4Ever posted:It makes me angry because it was senseless and preventable. Stop with the police chases. Enough. And I agree with what a compatriot posted on Twitter: take away their guns for a year. Let's just try it. I doubt it will do much. They murder people just fine without guns. They still have cars, armored vehicles, explosives, tasers, mace and pepper spray....plus the ability to call in a dozen or so of their coworkers to subdue and beat a guy in a bathrobe senseless.
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yronic heroism posted:Yeah he only needs to continue conning a bunch of white people in Wisconsin, and the past ten years shows this works even more than half the time. Hell, Walker barely lost last year and that was a wave election. This will probably also be a wave election
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RandomBlue posted:https://twitter.com/rklueber28/status/1202746837758889984 This is unbelievably crazy. If this happened in Sweden, the entire police force administration would be reeling from the backlash for years. But it’s America so I guess police are allowed to cosplay GTA at Will now.
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So whoever corrected me about not getting news from The Guardian is spot on: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/06/florida-ups-truck-hijacked-police-chase Article goes through pains to avoid mentioning anywhere that all 4 people died from COP BULLETS. Every one of the following lines of text is about the people getting shot and dying from cop bullets and not a single mention of it anywhere. quote:
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theflyingorc posted:This will probably also be a wave election “Trump will probably lose Wisconsin by 1 point depending on turnout if all goes as in 2018” is not exactly a giant comfort.
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