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Reminder Schiff gave the IGIC and DNI until Thursday to hand over the whistleblower documents. I wouldn’t be surprised if they waited until Friday to announce official proceedings.
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Here's another one for the pile. I imagine offices that haven't released a statement yet are scrambling to do so. I wonder if Pelosi's office is issuing form letters? Again though yall, be ready for the actual announcement to be delayed until Friday. Schiff was pretty clear he was giving the IGIC/DNI until Thursday to release the whistleblower docs before he threw out subpoenas. https://twitter.com/RepColinAllred/status/1176486196421283840
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Sep 24, 2019 14:56
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theflyingorc posted:It doesn't feel like they're using this as a threat to get something, though. It feels like they're going to do it regardless of what the DNI does Oh agreed; I think there's enough leaking already to move forward regardless. I also expect the DNI to offer a single transcript (if they offer anything) but not the entire whistleblower complaint; I assume the complaint itself along with context is way worse than whatever crumb they try to give.
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Sep 24, 2019 15:09
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Phenotype posted:I read that, but it doesn't seem to answer my central question, which is "What can Congress do if the White House still says 'lol no'?" Okay, impeachment makes it easier to issue subpoenas, and it blows up the Trump team's main legal objections to complying with the subpoena. But what if they say "gently caress you, we're still not releasing that because executive privilege presidential harassment fake news etc" and just continue the stonewall? Then can we get Mnuchin or Barr or someone getting perpwalked across the White House lawn? Contempt of congress and begin fining them many many large amounts of monies a day until they comply.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:41
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quote:The Senate Watergate Committee, known officially as the Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, was a special committee established by the United States Senate, S.Res. 60, in 1973, to investigate the Watergate scandal, with the power to investigate the break-in at the Democratic National Committee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Watergate_Committee
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Sep 24, 2019 18:56
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theflyingorc posted:This is the exact thing everyone is asking for??? The same fuckin reporter says as much. The brokebrain is super strong today. https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1176552510296903681
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Sep 24, 2019 19:02
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:I think the concern is that the committee will take forever to decide to move forward and this move is simply buying more time to run out the clock. Run out the clock for what? To what end? Representatives are avalanching toward supporting an inquiry because their offices are getting flooded with democratic voters demanding they move toward impeachment. The voters want this. Representatives no longer gain anything from waiting.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:06
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lol called it like an hour ago.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:18
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Caros posted:So this means one of what, four things? There are multiple transcripts and they're going to release the least-damning one. Also they could just alter it, and no one has the info to challenge them (yet). They've altered official transcripts already in the past. edit ya I guess that's covered in #3
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Sep 24, 2019 19:22
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https://twitter.com/IndivisibleTeam/status/1176564798739353600 This makes 171..?
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Sep 24, 2019 19:32
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Didn’t see this. https://twitter.com/isikoff/status/1176556893516500992?s=21
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Sep 24, 2019 20:35
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bird cooch posted:what's Biden going down for other than being an old shity white guy who shouldn't be running for president? People ITT are desparately hoping the right wing smears against him, as republican congresspeople attempt to muddy the waters, are enough to make him go away forever. I'd rather he just lose because of his lovely policy and we don't continue to, you know, lie our way through democracy.
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Sep 24, 2019 20:55
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Retro42 posted:https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1176581805283184640?s=21 At this point if our leaders are worth a gently caress it shouldn't matter. The act of preventing the DNI from releasing the report to congress to begin with has already occurred. The white house has already issued a coverup.
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Sep 24, 2019 20:56
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kidkissinger posted:I guess it's not entirely his fault but his son really shouldn't have been chairing a Ukrainian oil company while his dad is president tbh. I also agree that his son shouldn't do shady things while his dad is president. Seriously though I get it, but if we had a functioning democracy this would be held up and debated on its own merits and not as a foil to trump who is literally committing crimes far worse than this.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:00
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What if the Whistleblower Report is not that damaging and thats why McConnell is willing to release it? Excuse me I haven’t been closely following Ukraine Gate before things blew up the last couple days. Do we know the accusations of the quid pro quo are legit? I'm not sure the acting DNI would be committing a crime by denying Congress access to it if it wasn't damning. Regardless, impeachment should be proceeding based on the white houses direction of the acting DNI to suppress the report anyhow. It's a crime, the white house is obviously directing the acting DNI to suppress it.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:05
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I’m just worried that the public is too stupid to treat obstruction with the seriousness it deserves if there wasn’t a worse underlying crime in flashing neon lights. Good news, trump and giuliani already admitted to the flashing neon crime on live tv. If it's not enough, nothing ever will be. evilweasel posted:the report was bad enough that (a) a TRUMP APPOINTEE deemed it serious enough to require it be released to congress; (b) it was serious enough that the Bill Barr Coverup Machine swung into action; and (c) people involved in the whistleblowing promptly started leaking details to the press to up the ante on the attempts to cover it up Welcome.. back?
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Sep 24, 2019 21:08
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Hell yeah. https://twitter.com/by_the_ppl/status/1176591931444383744
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Sep 24, 2019 21:30
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https://i.imgur.com/NPzubpd.gif (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) mod edit: this is a gif of trump saying ITS HAPPENING with flashing background graphics; it's possibly epileptic fit inducing Somebody fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 21:34
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:When is Pelosi going to speak? 5p. Carried by every major network, and probably live on youtube. Get ready for a loving avalanche of whataboutisms to come. https://twitter.com/MariannaNBCNews/status/1176595895460057088
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Sep 24, 2019 21:37
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:That this has to loving happen Technically his ichor levels were too low to sustain consciousness, so no pinnochios awarded.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:42
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Ummmmmmmmmmmmm lol trump demanding the info be released because his lackies initiated a coverup on his behalf because he's so loving dumb he can't help but always be crimin' is completely believable.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:54
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He's going to throw giuliani out of his penthouse window.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:56
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ewiley posted:What exactly is the R's plan here? That the whistleblower report is a nothingburger, or are they drawing knives for Trump? Probably get it to the senate so the presiding party can spin it as soon as possible.
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Sep 24, 2019 21:57
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Sep 24, 2019 22:02
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So confirmed, all six committees moving forward with current investigations but with heightened impeachment powers.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:06
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Xarthor posted:Laura Ingram on the right and Nate Silver on the left Please do not claim silverbacks for the Left. He's a libertarian at best.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:10
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ninjahedgehog posted:Can a bigger procedural nerd than me explain what these heightened powers are, exactly? Do they get to start locking people up if they don't comply with subpoenas? Federal judges can, and also issue fines, and democrats now have more power to request subpoena enforcement. They don't need to explain why a subpoena is relevant, really - it's all relevant under an impeachment inquiry. A decent writeup from May https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-powers-does-formal-impeachment-inquiry-give-house skylined! fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 22:23
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evilweasel posted:what he did is exactly what he was accused of doing in the russia investigation, except this time he did it directly, on tape It's really amazing the degree to which his pathology is so underlined. He did it and got away with it with the Russian investigation, and he turned around and did it again like, immediately. Immediately! The same fuckin thing!
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teacup posted:So why actually “matters” with this? Like will Pelosi just say “oh we didn’t find enough evidence to actually begin hearings”? What’s the most likely scenario from here? All six committees continue investigating, and likely turn up a fuckload more dirt with enhanced powers because this is now an impeachment inquiry. A vote is held, timing depending on public reaction and also what exactly is uncovered. It goes to the senate where ...??... anything goes. Timing isn't great with the election in about a year; I think at this point ideally they uncover more obvious crimes in about six months and send it to the senate, allow the senate to not convict and the dem nominee to campaign on the many, many crimes uncovered that republican senators handwaived away. Also politico is now up to 181 dems officially supporting impeachment inquiry, although they still show Pelosi as 'not yet' sooooo who knows.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:33
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Reminder Kennedy is probably The Dumbest Senator.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:38
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I do not get why would Trump release whistleblowers report if it is bad to him. If the whitehouse was trying to block it last week because it was credible and serious, why release it today. Their only hope is to control the narrative. This is Barr's summary, all over again. They're going to redact the report heavily in a manner that makes trump look innocent and release it to try and control how the public views it. 
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:There's no such thing as a transcript. Aides take notes on the call, they don't transcribe it. They typically leave it embarrassing stuff There also aren't any tapes, apparently, per some twitter guy that used to work in IC. Trying to find the thread..
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Sep 25, 2019 13:27
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So Rudy was on fox this AM telling the world that he had the transcript read to him. Before congress has seen any of the whistleblower report.
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Sep 25, 2019 14:27
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Sep 25, 2019 14:43
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1176857636853231618 Barr and Mcconell should both be shot into the sun and never allowed to participate in a democracy ever again.
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Sep 25, 2019 14:56
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We need to stop calling it a transcript and stop allowing the media to refer to it as such. They're notes of a phone call, and is not the entirety of the whistleblower's report.
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Sep 25, 2019 15:19
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Guess they weren't satisfied with their nixon speedrun and decided to uh, use cheat codes? What the gently caress?
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The Cheeto Sky is approaching singularity. https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1176868856511549440
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