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Major Ryan posted:0-15-1 for both teams in the most egregious display of match-fixing ever to be seen in the NFL. Give the tanking conspiracy nerds the off-season talking point they really want. What happens if neither team takes the field? Automatic forfeit in favor of the home team?
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Oct 14, 2019 16:39
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Oct 14, 2019 16:39
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draft lotteries are dogshit. here's a decent idea: if you are out of the playoffs you can choose to convert your pick in a round to 2 untradable compensatory picks
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Oct 14, 2019 16:41
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The current draft system via win record is fine. The main thing that needs to change is the comp pick system. If anything, remove the current comp pick system and then each year give the teams with worst 3 records a comp pick each in the third or something.
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Oct 14, 2019 16:48
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How many more handouts do these dumb teams need? Should we spot them each 3 points too?
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Oct 14, 2019 16:51
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:The current draft system via win record is fine. As the fan of a team that regularly abuses the comp system this is entirely accurate. It's a fine idea in theory but in practice it's way too generous. There should also probably be a time with team variable or something because these one year rental deals that turn into 3rd round picks are extra ridiculous.
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Oct 14, 2019 16:52
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Automatically nationalize a team that goes 5 years without a winning record, reduced by a year per team nationalized until the league is nationalized.
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Oct 14, 2019 16:54
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The NBA draft is dumb and the NFL would make the most byzantine draft lottery ever seen.
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Oct 14, 2019 16:58
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Tanking is so tied up in teams angling for a specific prospect(QB at #1 overall) that I think it'd be pretty easy to fix it by adding just a little bit of uncertainty to it. I think even as little as a coin flip to decide who picks #1 and who picks #2 would be enough.
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Oct 14, 2019 17:01
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Zoran posted:The best proposal I’ve seen for draft ordering is to give teams points towards the higher picks for wins after they’ve been mathematically eliminated. So if you go 0-10 and can’t make the playoffs by week 11, winning your next six and finishing strong gives you the best possible draft position. I saw someone suggest for teams out of the playoffs it's reverse order (IE best team that didn't make the playoffs gets #1 overall), then the normal order for playoff teams. I haven't thought about it much but I don't absolutely hate it. But yeah you guys are right, the comp system is the main thing that needs to go.
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Oct 14, 2019 17:04
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they can do whatever they want after we secure tua
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Oct 14, 2019 17:06
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lol https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman/status/1183706935725568001
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Oct 14, 2019 17:06
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Grittybeard posted:I saw someone suggest for teams out of the playoffs it's reverse order (IE best team that didn't make the playoffs gets #1 overall), then the normal order for playoff teams. I haven't thought about it much but I don't absolutely hate it. I like that a bit better than the draft system. Encourages teams to really try and makes tanking pretty much impossible. I disagree with getting rid of the comp system, the idea behidn it makes sense that you're too good at drafting players and can't sign guys due to salary cap restrictions so here are some picks to help cushion the blow. The problem is the rookie wage scale has made those 3rd round draft picks ridiculously valuable compared to even a reasonably priced veteran.
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Oct 14, 2019 17:09
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Dean Spanos would rather be a pauper in heaven than a king in hell
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Oct 14, 2019 17:14
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Tiny Tubesteak Tom posted:What happens if neither team takes the field? Automatic forfeit in favor of the home team? The rulebook posted:ARTICLE 1. WINNING TEAM But that's just if one team forfeits, not both. According to wikipedia actual in-season games haven't been cancelled since the 1930s, with games that physically couldn't be played moved or rescheduled. So there's not really any precedent. Shame, because if the rule was both teams 'lost', we're back at 0-16 all around and all is good with the world. E: I love that it's a 2-0 win. I guess the smallest winning margin, but if it doesn't count for anything, why bother attaching a score!?
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Oct 14, 2019 17:24
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Can someone fabricate a story about how dean hates magic johnson
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Oct 14, 2019 17:33
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https://twitter.com/TylerGheeNFL/status/1183583837835665408?s=20
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Oct 14, 2019 17:36
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Is that an extra point? Another fun thing there is it would have only counted for one because the NFL had its head up its rear end about two point conversions for most of its existence.
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Oct 14, 2019 17:45
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It's so jarring how unathletic everyone was back then. It was a different sport.
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Oct 14, 2019 17:55
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Is that Butkus catching it?
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Oct 14, 2019 18:09
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So there's only 1 good team in the NFL is that correct
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Oct 14, 2019 18:11
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kiimo posted:So there's only 1 good team in the NFL is that correct Houston?
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Oct 14, 2019 18:13
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a neat cape posted:Houston? will get murdered by a team with a pass rush. I think one could make an argument that the seahawks, 49ers, and patriots are all very very very good teams
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Oct 14, 2019 18:14
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Major Ryan posted:But that's just if one team forfeits, not both. According to wikipedia actual in-season games haven't been cancelled since the 1930s, with games that physically couldn't be played moved or rescheduled. So there's not really any precedent. Shame, because if the rule was both teams 'lost', we're back at 0-16 all around and all is good with the world. personally, i would rule that whoever declared that they forfeit first got the L
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Oct 14, 2019 18:17
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Seahawks are possibly worse than their record with a bunch of close wins. The Patriots have played one real team and that was close with their opponent being down a starting QB for the back half of the game. 49ers look the most real thus far too me.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:18
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Bird in a Blender posted:Is that Butkus catching it? Yes.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:18
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kiimo posted:So there's only 1 good team in the NFL is that correct Patriots again 49er's are looking real college ball looks more competitive
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Oct 14, 2019 18:21
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Seahawks are possibly worse than their record with a bunch of close wins. The Patriots have played one real team and that was close with their opponent being down a starting QB for the back half of the game. 49ers look the most real thus far too me. There are no true flawless teams though - and id say the one weakness of the 49er remains jimmy g who throws too many ints - but those 3 remain very very good teams. I think when Drew Brees comes back you can add the Saints to that list too. They combine good offenses with great defenses which is something to be said in 2019.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:21
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adaz posted:There are no true flawless teams though - and id say the one weakness of the 49er remains jimmy g who throws too many ints - but those 3 remain very very good teams. I think when Drew Brees comes back you can add the Saints to that list too. They combine good offenses with great defenses which is something to be said in 2019. Saints are rolling along with Teddy B. Assuming Brees comes back at any point I think we can call them good, and they might just be good anyway. That Rams game is looking worse as time goes by though.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:26
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adaz posted:There are no true flawless teams though - and id say the one weakness of the 49er remains jimmy g who throws too many ints - but those 3 remain very very good teams. I think when Drew Brees comes back you can add the Saints to that list too. They combine good offenses with great defenses which is something to be said in 2019. Jimmy G has some absolutely mind-numbing interceptions this season. Theyre not even errant passes, they're just bad decisions. My friend and I both went "WHAT ARE YOU DOING" on the end zone pick yesterday. It's making me nervous that the 49ers might not go 19-0 this year.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:29
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Grittybeard posted:Saints are rolling along with Teddy B. Assuming Brees comes back at any point I think we can call them good, and they might just be good anyway. The pay a ton for a backup QB startegy definitely paid off for them and that defense (!!!!) looks really good. It helps to have a good coaching staff. This might be the most stark year ever for coaching haves/have nots. AYou have the saints looking really great despite having a backup qb (granted a good backup qb). The Steelers look marginally OK despite being on their 3rd string QB. The Panthers are quietely winning games with Kyle Allen. The Colts are still competitive somehow despite their franchise QB quitting like the day before the season starts. On the other side... you have the Jets who just had 0 plan when Darnold went down. The deadskins gave up by game 2 it felt like. The falcons might have the worst defense in the league (non-dolphins category) with their head coaching "taking over the defense" and hte cleveland browns seem intent upon wasting nick chubb and ruining baker mayfield.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:31
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If the Ravens trade for a legit pass rush threat and their secondary gets healthy they could be legit. If Mahomes gets healthy for the playoffs the Chiefs will be in the mix. If the recent Texan trend of not getting their terrific signal caller killed holds they will be a threat. If Brees looks like his old self coming back from injury Saints will definitely be contenders. Aaron Rodgers with a defense will be a tough playoff out. NFC West looks solid throughout, with the aforementioned 49ers at the front of the pack. All Jimmy G has to do is not lose games and he's more than capable of that. The Patriots' inexorable march to the Superbowl is overstated. Especially since they have Darnold and his super-powered spleen to contend with this week.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:36
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Oct 14, 2019 18:37
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Full on pumping the breaks on the Chiefs. Even with Mahommes healthy that defense is so loving bad against teams who can run the ball they get no chance. The offense had the ball for 76 seconds during the 4th quarter last night and I believe the last 2 games the TOP was something like 39:21 against the chiefs. They can still be a good team sure because of Mahommes Magic but when teams can keep him off the field consistently that's a pretty bad flaw. They have to win one way - get up quick and force teams to become one dimensional
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Oct 14, 2019 18:45
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Panthers have one of the best defenses in the league and an MVP candidate. Their next three games are against the 49ers, Titans, and Packers, so we'll know a lot more about them then.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:46
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adaz posted:Full on pumping the breaks on the Chiefs. Even with Mahommes healthy that defense is so loving bad against teams who can run the ball they get no chance. The offense had the ball for 76 seconds during the 4th quarter last night and I believe the last 2 games the TOP was something like 39:21 against the chiefs. Even with their weaknesses they'll gash most teams.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:50
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If its the same Panthers I have watched for years, it means we'll beat the 49ers, get trounced by the Titans inexplicably, and then win a slugout vs the Packers.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:50
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Seahawks are 5-1 and only have a +19 point differential lol (the niners are +83 for comparison) Saints are +6 though, holy poo poo
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Oct 14, 2019 18:53
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adaz posted:Full on pumping the breaks on the Chiefs. Even with Mahommes healthy that defense is so loving bad against teams who can run the ball they get no chance. The offense had the ball for 76 seconds during the 4th quarter last night and I believe the last 2 games the TOP was something like 39:21 against the chiefs. And soon they'll have to pay Mahomes like 300 million dollars and can't fix the defense even if they want to
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Oct 14, 2019 18:56
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Jonathan Fisk posted:Even with their weaknesses they'll gash most teams. I think they're going to be a playoff team, but short week TNF against a division rival with a hobbled Mahomes could quite possibly mean a 4-3 start. Then the Packers the next week and who knows. There's been a lot of analytics talk the last little while in KC about how bad run defense isn't actually a problem generally. That might have something going for it with an averagely bad run defense. But any team can just run up the middle and set themselves up with 2nd and 4 every time, and when things are that bad it is a problem. People are still trying to blame the offense around here, and yeah, that's the side of the ball we expect results from. Two three and outs the only time you touch the ball in the fourth quarter is bad. But goddamn, you need something, like a pulse of any kind on defense.
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