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MarcusSA posted:Yes the third and final season was amazing. Do I need to go back and re-watch the second season before starting the third? Because I don't remember all the minor details. There were those weird visions that Kevin kept having and Patty kept re-appearing but then gets killed again? Does any of this matter when going into the third season? Should I just rewatch the whole goddamn show?
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MarcusSA posted:I'll be honest and say if you bounced off the first two seasons I wouldn't bother. I can understand why people wouldn't like the show and I can say its not for everyone. I was pretty invested going into the third season. I liked the first two seasons. I just never watched the third.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:55
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Supreme Allah posted:From the trailers there's obviously a Cult of Rorschach. Count me on that side of the situations. The white supremacists / fascists? 
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Oct 21, 2019 01:56
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Supreme Allah posted:Okay that 'Unforgettable' reference is to the movie not the book It was in the book too. Supreme Allah posted:Adrian what did you doo I wouldn't put it past the government to be in on the little secret to remind the world that it better not forget who the "real enemy" is. edit: by that I mean they randomly cause squid storms to keep the guise up. Didn't look like Veidt was doing anything to cause it. Plus, what if he died? No more squid rain?
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Oct 21, 2019 03:08
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Jose Oquendo posted:If that newspaper is to be believed, he is dead. Jeremy Irons looked pretty alive and well.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:12
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Revol posted:With that, I don't see how Veidt's lie could be sustained. Easily. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p80hXaM4QgU quote:Then again, with what Regina's character said about the world not being pretty, perhaps the lie is still alive. Yea I'm quite sure it is. It showed the WTC in "the box" when he asked what the suspect thought about the interdimensional aliens. Meaning the Seventh Cavalry believe the conspiracy, i.e. the truth, but what everyone else believes to be a conspiracy theory. (No I am not a loving 9/11 truther, don't worry) quote:I'm betting the squid poo poo is a true side effect. I guess we'll find out, but why would the event in the book cause squid rain decades later? Seems a bit of a stretch.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:23
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teagone posted:Redford's been president for 30 years lol. Yea, and remember the scene at the right-winged newspaper at the end of the book mentions that he's going to run, to which the owner of the paper yells, "Don't be a damned idiot, we're not going to elect a goddamn cowboy to be president." An obvious riff on Reagan.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:25
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Oct 21, 2019 03:33
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The robot servants thing seemed pretty loving weird. Like you know he fucks them when the cameras aren't looking type thing.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:49
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Amateur Saboteur posted:i initially thought my boy was getting the top while at his type writer Pretty sure everybody did. lol Anyway the "it's my funeral" scene was just foreshadowing. Probably isn't some ultra secret sinister plan by Don Johnson. Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully. I like Don Johnson.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:54
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Le Saboteur posted:7th Cavalry is certainly a logical endpoint for Rorschach’s ideology in the comic. It’s a much reading than Snyder worshipful lens of Rorschach in the movie. Alan Moore, when asked if he'd watch the movie, basically said "hell no, I saw 300 and that director is a loving fascist xenophobe. I don't want to have anything to do with it."
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Oct 21, 2019 03:57
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I just realized the servants probably aren't robots. I think they're clones. More specifically of John Osterman and his fiancee. My crazy theory is that Veidt is trying to recreate the situation and environment leading up to John's accident and eventually the accident itself. Basically, Ozzy is attempting to create his own obedient Dr. Manhattan. I'm basing all of this on the title of the five act play that he's writing. "The Watch Maker's Son."
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Oct 21, 2019 17:21
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:What about Marvelman, Superman, Batman, Swamp Thing, and Watchmen? He's obviously being facetious, making fun of that guy who deleted his own posts (which I presume were about tainting Alan Moore's sacred legacy of being weird as gently caress).
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Oct 22, 2019 01:43
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Ballz posted:Also of note if you read the supplemental material from that site, according to the newspaper article obit, Veidt's fortunes kind of fell into a freefall in the late 80s and 90s, only to be salvaged when he created a pet cloning service. Given the relatively young ages of his servants, he probably cloned them right around the same time he started cloning rich people's dead dogs. Never assume ages of clones. They can be fast growing to prime age or some poo poo.
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Oct 22, 2019 03:02
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AccountSupervisor posted:I noticed this and in the season preview You can see Sister Nights kid building a model of the same castle That's why I guessed they were those particular clones in the first place...
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Oct 22, 2019 03:15
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Klungar posted:Since I didn’t see anyone else say it, I will: I think “Veidt” is actually Dr. Manhattan and his servants are life forms he said he was going to go off and create. The transition from the stars in the sky to the Scottish moors is actually to show that this is taking place on some other planet Dr. M hosed off to to play God. The Dr. M playing in the sand on Mars is just a copy to make humanity think he’s otherwise occupied. The anniversary referenced is not of Squid Day, but the intrinsic field accident. That'd be loving crazy. Way crazier than my clones to recreate Dr. Manhattan theory. I like it. All of that was filmed at some castle in Wales, apparently.
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Oct 23, 2019 00:31
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Necrothatcher posted:No it loving wasn't! He's an insane mass murderer. I'm sorry, but if you're asking to end the lives of 15 million people or god knows how many billion plus the end of civilization, it's not even a choice.
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Oct 23, 2019 00:50
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I really don't think Jeremy Irons is Manhattan. You know, since he isn't glowing blue with beaming white eyes. I'd be surprised if he weren't Veidt.
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Oct 23, 2019 11:21
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KoRMaK posted:He can change atoms and poo poo, he could change his skin color and appearance if he wanted. This would be pretty stupid and a cop-out by the show. There's literally no reason for him to do that other than obvious misdirection which breaks the 4th wall like crazy
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Oct 23, 2019 16:10
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I was 100% had me expecting a bombing or commando assault because of “Unforgettable” playing in the background. I guess the movie is fair play for callbacks. Folks, "Unforgettable" was in the movie because it was in the comics. It was literally on the TV commercial when Comedian gets his rear end beaten.
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Oct 24, 2019 03:53
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muscles like this! posted:Stop posting spoilers Seriously. I accidentally rolled over because I though it was a guess or theory without looking at the avatar. If it hasn't aired why the heck are you posting spoilers.
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Oct 25, 2019 01:06
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:No it isn’t. It does appear for one panel when Dan and Laurie attempt sad gently caress number one, as part of a commercial for Nostalgia. Whatever. It's the gently caress song then. It's in the novel. Anyway, continuing the black and white theme: what's black and white and red all over? A: a field of dead, bullet-ridden cows Preston Waters fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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Oct 25, 2019 06:40
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On the rewatch, people were thinking that Jeremy Irons might be Manhattan because he was given the pocket watch -- on the contrary, I bet he left the designs out for mystery servant to find because he's a clone of Osterman, who then builds it no problem. It was a test of sorts. I almost want to toxx on this. ALMOST.
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Oct 25, 2019 06:50
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Yea this show is full of symbolism just like the dang novel. Veidt riding a galloping horse to a castle. On the radio right before Sheriff gets murdered: "Hell if Joe, Jr. wants to mount up and gallop all the way to the White House, I say more power to 'em."
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Oct 25, 2019 06:56
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Colonel Whitey posted:I’m pretty skeptical of Irons=Manhattan but one big clue that lends credence to the theory is that fade from the starry night to the beach. This could indicate the Irons scene takes place elsewhere in the cosmos. Either way it was a brilliant panning dissolve. It could also just be a transition shot. Or it could mean that both Manhattan and Veidt are mirroring each other's actions. Also since it seems obvious that the 105 year old guy was the child at the beginning: who are we thinking the baby is that he found? Sister Night's ancestor? Someone we haven't met yet? 
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Oct 25, 2019 07:03
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:My insane fan theory is that Dr Manhattan hosed off to create new life but he hosed up and just recreated the Earth and everything happened all over again including making another Dr Manhattan. It's like the Matrix or something and we're on DrM #7 or whatever. Yea but then when the reveal could have been something really cool (matrix within a matrix) it'll get brushed away as something lame.
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Oct 25, 2019 18:05
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Yea I think he just now returned to the Solar System
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Oct 25, 2019 23:09
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Xanderkish posted:Also it tracks that a dude who thinks himself vastly smarter than everyone else would seclude himself far away from other people with only his moron sex bots to keep him company. He's got better technology, but functionally he's the same as a dude with one of those weird anime body pillows who insists his parents don't understand their love. That's a pretty vivid description...
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Oct 26, 2019 00:07
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LesterGroans posted:I remember when the original ending of the Terminator Salvation script leaked they changed it to something much more boring due to the backlash. If you're going to be bad, at least be bad and interesting. I vaguely remember this? What was the original ending again?
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Oct 26, 2019 10:55
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holy gently caress "He shot me in the arm. So I blew his loving face off."
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Oct 28, 2019 02:23
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LesterGroans posted:So American Hero Story is definitely a play on the Snyder film, right? Yea lmbo HOLY poo poo that's a hood
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Oct 28, 2019 02:45
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lmao so I was half correct? edit: blue penis Preston Waters fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Oct 28, 2019 02:46
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Ok so veidt confirmed
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Oct 28, 2019 02:50
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LesterGroans posted:I like James Wolk doing his best Kyle Chandler impression as Joe Keene Jr. why couldn't they get kyle chandler
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Oct 28, 2019 03:13
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I love how they chained up the Nixon statue like Saddam's.
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Oct 28, 2019 03:17
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Veidt casually burning people alive was some  poo poo
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Oct 28, 2019 06:07
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Rocksicles posted:Cool, i called it. Called what? Chief being 7th cav? That costume could have been his dad's or something.
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Oct 28, 2019 06:22
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LesterGroans posted:It's both. Obviously with the name and casting it's a Ryan Murphy riff, but to me it also seems like a play on Snyder's version of Watchmen. Don't get me wrong, I think his Watchmen movie is great, but this seemed like a way to incorporate it playfully. Yea it's definitely a low-key riff on the Snyder film. The slowing down time and poo poo made me chuckle.
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Oct 28, 2019 09:50
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twistedmentat posted:I bet American Hero Story is going to be Tales From The Black Freighter for the series. You'll see bits of it that relate directly to the themes of the show. It looked like an old police badge, like the one his father was wearing in the picture of them together.
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Groke posted:Blue penis is blue penis, even if it's only painted blue. So we can check that box. I meant about the clones of Osterman and Veidt trying to create his own personal Dr. Manhattan
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