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Preston Waters posted:Anyway, continuing the black and white theme: what's black and white and red all over? Dark Waters confirmed canon.
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Also, it wasn't the anniversary of anything. It's Veidt's birthday, his weirdass servants don't know the difference.
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Oct 27, 2019 06:20
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I think it's way too early to cry foul about mystery box writing. This is meant to be a story that can be satisfyingly told in one season. Anyways I reread the comic over the past few days, paying special attention to the Hooded Justice character. The robbery scene might be a riff on Snyder, but it's accurate to what Under The Hood says about HJ's debut being brutal. If we're running with the theory that the old man is actually HJ, perhaps the WW1 era German propaganda is meant to explain his pro German comments Mason remembers as being pro Nazi.
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Oct 28, 2019 05:49
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Ehh I'm enjoying the show but the comic is so incredibly intricate in it's form and writing, nearly every page having some kind of hidden visual pun, reoccurring motif, or subtle foreshadowing, that I don't see the show coming close to equaling it. Obviously it's too early to really tell.
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Oct 28, 2019 19:15
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Blotto_Otter posted:For the folks who think this pales in comparison to the intricacy of the original comic: I don't think it's possible to make a live-action adaptation or reinterpretation that will please you. I have no idea if they will stick the landing, but two episodes in, this seems about as visually and thematically intricate as television gets. I'm liking the show so far, I'm just responding to the earlier post about the comic not being as important or having gravitas. It didn't really cover the heavy and emotional topic of race, but it's not 'just' about superheroes. Zmej posted:"i'm here to tell you the mystery in piecemeal in vague statements" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBYp1SbrbkQ&list=PLCMjjEKddprf4leOvXPOwP4IWbafuhfmE&index=7&t=0s
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Oct 28, 2019 21:24
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I've never seen Lost or The Leftovers so I'm judging Lindelof entirely on Cowboys v Aliens and Prometheus.
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Oct 28, 2019 22:02
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Prometheus is fine but was originally meant to be the first half of a story so its somewhat underwhelming.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Speaking of, I wonder what Donald J Trump is up to in this timeline Hopefully the Institute for Interspatial Studies had a prime location near Trump Tower.
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Oct 29, 2019 18:58
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Idk I think the Owlship and Nite Owl's goggles being part of the police department's arsenal are both hints to what happened to Dan and further reinforcement of how the state coopted superheroes for their own purposes.
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Oct 30, 2019 18:45
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I liked the theory I saw in the comments of that Youtube video Rolf Mueller was actually the 2nd Hooded Justice after Sally's publicist husband realized a black hero was a PR problem.
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Oct 30, 2019 19:39
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Well, considering squids rain from the sky... (The supplemental material also makes it clear the squid ending happened)
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Oct 31, 2019 07:47
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There's a very conspicuous fat man and little boy on the pier the day Manhattan was created, get it?? Anyways, maybe the play is a red herring and the cloning itself is the pertinent plot thread. Veidt trying to make duplicates so he can perpetually engineer human history from the shadows.
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Nov 3, 2019 20:39
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DC Murderverse posted:apparently Angela was born in Vietnam? They say this in her introduction scene. Two years before it became a state!
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Nov 4, 2019 06:39
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Mothman wanted to avoid discussing the conflict in one of the like three lines he has.
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Nov 4, 2019 07:12
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Eau de MacGowan posted:she had to have had that dildo custom made Pfft, giant Manhattan dildoes are probably a popular brand in this universe.
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Nov 4, 2019 08:33
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The preview of the next episode makes it look like he's going to build a life sized version of that catapult thing he had on his desk and, I don't know, catapult clone test subjects into space.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:04
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Nov 4, 2019 18:57
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The biggest improvement the movie makes over the comic is having Big Figure's fat henchmen get his arms buzzsawed off instead of having his throat sliced for no reason.
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Nov 8, 2019 06:00
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The story wraps up in 4 episodes. It's a self contained narrative.
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Nov 11, 2019 17:50
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You don't just Jackie Chan your way into a sewer opening like that without prior experience.
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Nov 11, 2019 19:10
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The clock is going to mix up everyone's races like the end of the Sneetch book.
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Nov 13, 2019 17:11
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That logic doesn't apply to settler colonialist projects like that. It's like saying someone is Cherokee because they live in Oklahoma.
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Nov 14, 2019 07:54
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Colonel Whitey posted:Because the real world version is that the rich and powerful use racists for their own ends, which are also racist. The racism is the point, not some kind of cover for an ulterior motive Username makes post but also sometimes the brutal racial hierarchy is used to mask brutal economic hierarchy but the two are intertwined in the US.
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Nov 18, 2019 07:37
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:The first thing Veidt did when Rorschach and Nite Owl showed up was to confess and give all the details how he did it. Well they would have found out pretty quickly anyways. Veidt's a megalomaniac but I don't believe circa 1985 Ozy would be so cavalier as the video to Redford.
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Nov 18, 2019 21:00
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Pellisworth posted:Re: psychics, couldn't the 11/2 squid deaths just be due to the pressure wave of a giant squid teleporting into NYC? All the people who died were bleeding from their ears. A large part of Veidt's plan was having artists create horrifying alien imagery and encoding it into the squid brain so people would be overwhelmed by the sensory overload. Really not too crazy that psychics exist in a world where Dr. Manhattan does. poo poo, maybe Jon was a sensitive and that's how his consciousness survived his disintegration.
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Nov 18, 2019 21:20
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:How? All the plotters were murdered by Veidt. He even killed his butlers to cover absolutely everything. I mean the protagonists of Watchmen would have put two and two together by the time they were at Antartica, he didn't just tell them willy nilly, but rather to explain his motive
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Nov 19, 2019 06:54
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Lord Krangdar posted:I think it does look silly, in the comic and the show, but that just makes it more terrifying. Because imagine the incongruity of seeing something silly like that, but having to take it seriously because it just killed everyone around you in a blink of an eye. Isn't this the basis of a lot of Japanese monsters? I'm thinking of how Shin Godzilla starts off as a bizarre, googly eye thing that nonetheless bleeds radioactive blood.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:25
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if grandpa gave me his memory pills id be like "thanks, but next time keep all the gay sex you had out of it, im good"
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Nov 25, 2019 16:20
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You all are gonna feel stupid when the clock just turns out to be an even more powerful Moloch Sun Ray.
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Nov 26, 2019 06:18
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The flashback in the book is Sally's memory, not Hollis'. And yeah, comic HJ is coded as a sadomasochistic fascist as another critique of superheroes.
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Dec 2, 2019 02:14
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Destroy Doc Manhattan and take his place? Surely you must be Joe Keene.
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Nail Rat posted:But why would Veidt have impregnated a Vietnamese woman who was subjected to war crimes? There's no indication at all he was part of the Vietnam War. He had Vietnamese manservants in the comic, maybe he adopted one of their daughters after killing them in the snow. Trieu doesn't look mixed.
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Dr. Manhattan being the secret husband of the secret granddaughter of Hooded Justice who is also near the center of an elaborate conspiracy is one twist too far for me and I don't see how it's not a giant coincidence. The show has been good so far so I'll see where it goes, but this is the biggest misstep since the convenient tape of Veidt explaining the squid.Zaphod42 posted:He was in vietnam. He meets her. He falls in love with her. Same as he did his first wife, and same as Laurie, and even while he was seeing Laurie he was simultaneously seeing women in his past and in his future. Angela was born after the war, and was only a child when Jon left Earth. That opening scene was set post comic book.
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Dec 2, 2019 17:42
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Lube Man is keeping him prisoner to ensure things on Earth run... smoothly...
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I noticed more conspicuous lettuce right before the bombing that killed Angela's parents. One more for that motif, I guess.McSpanky posted:Topher isn't adopted, right? Maybe he's just a chip off the ol' atomic pile. pay attention
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"I made it 30 years ago" Booo
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Also "A little elephant told me" and Veidt inventing an amnesia device seem like more evidence for the earlier theory itt.
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Dec 9, 2019 03:37
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Yeesh they did not manage the landing on that twist at all. And I still say giving Angela two secret twist origins is too much. At least Jeremy Irons still owns.
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Also, Topher seeing a blue dude walking on their pool and saying "it looks like Cal!" and not "holy poo poo its Doctor Manhattan!" felt wrong too.magiccarpet posted:Give us the Snyder cut It's the same thing except when the 7th Kavalry heads explode it's super gory and in slow mo.
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They should have just left Manhattan out of the plot as a character altogether.
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