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Binary Logic posted:So glad to know that, when I first heard of the series my main reaction was, "please be good". This makes me wonder - does Moore hate tabletop RPG adaptations of his work the way he hates TV/movie adaptations?
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twistedmentat posted:It is nice to see a world for a change that isn't a dystopia. Is this a joke post
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feedmyleg posted:During the traffic stop at the beginning, who was the person in charge of releasing the gun? . The dispatcher says "I'm putting you through to Panda" and then Panda says "hello this is Panda" which is how the show subtly suggests to you that the officer's talking to Panda Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Davros1 posted:Except at the end of the book Manhattan leaves because he's regained his humanity. He's genuinely happy because Laurie and Dan found one another and will be together. Hell, he even smiles at Veidt as a "gently caress you" when he tells him "nothing ever ends". He even say he's going to leave for somewhere "Less complicated". If he was truly "disconnected", he wouldn't need to leave because nothing around him would truly matter to him. He hasn't regained his humanity, he's regained his appreciation for humanity while recognizing that he's personally ascended beyond it. That's why he plans to go create life instead of taking part in it Rocksicles posted:The bad guys are racists. it's like the justice league vs Injustice League Yeah man I bet the characters in this Watchmen sequel are exactly like the justice league Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:It seems strange that a guy who openly expresses support for communism (the dude is wearing red and yellow for chrissakes) Do you think The Flash is a communist
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feedmyleg posted:Hey man some of us were really high when we watched it okay Now I've gone from mad about comics to envious about drugs Although honestly the Tulsa massacre scene might be way too much for me if I'm high
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My wild guess is that Veidt is trying to get Osterman (the watchmaker's son) to come back to Earth by manipulating the white supremacists into doing some weird science poo poo with the synthetic lithium batteries
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General Dog posted:I very much doubt that at the end of the day this series is going to expect you to root for the masked, torturing, cult-like, unaccountable police force as The Good Guys. The police might be the protagonists/"good guys" in the depressing sense in which Rorschach and his friends are the protagonists/"good guys" in Watchmen
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Do you guys think the Soviet Union still exists? Ozymandias's whole plan was to stop the Cold War and it looks like it at least somewhat worked
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AccountSupervisor posted:Going with the idea Veidt is manipulating racists to help him Make Dr. Manhattan American Again with whatever experiment hes cooking up to recreate him. in the comics sequel to Watchmen, Ozymandias is trying to use some science poo poo to force Dr. Manhattan to come back and fix everything. It would make sense if he were trying to do the same thing here with the watch batteries
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Nail Rat posted:For those who have read everything, are Before Watchmen and/or Doomsday Clock worthwhile? I avoided Before Watchmen just because of fear it would tarnish the original, but I'm open to other opinions on it. Doomsday Clock is a standard Justice League story with Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias, which is funny, but it's not remotely as actually good as the original comics. Still kinda funny to see more wholesome and simple comics characters go  at the weirdo perverts from Watchmen
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wolfs posted:I watched episode 1 and everyone is unlikable and complicit. This is the one thing they got right about Watchmen
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KoRMaK posted:Why the gently caress would I care about the difference between a communist and a nazi, both dead ideologies when capitalism was doing so well for me ? are you the comedian? you're supposed to be dead Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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beanieson posted:lol I’m rewatching and I completely forgot about ya boy just casually dropping on his adopted kids that no, there is no heaven, this life is all that exists, & when you die you cease to exist. He forgot to clarify that your consciousness actually can survive death as long as you die from being ripped apart in an intrinsic field generator.
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withak posted:I want to know the scale that Petey keeps using to rate the superheroes. if you mean the Wertham Spectrum, fun fact: it's named after Fredric Wertham. Wertham was a progressive psychiatrist, one of very few wiling to treat poor black patients in his time. His research was even cited in Brown v. Board of Education, the American Supreme Court case that produced a ban on educational segregation. Unfortunately he's better known for writing Seduction of the Innocent, an extremely popular book about how comic books promoted violence, sex, and drugs among our youth. He called Superman un-American and fascistic, and Batman and Robin homosexuals. His criticism of Batman and Robin led to the creation of Batwoman and Batgirl to serve as heterosexual woman counterparts for Batman and Robin to romance. I guess in the Watchmen reality, Wertham turned his mind toward psychoanalyzing actual superheroes instead of comics about them. I would love to see more of him as a character in this universe. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Nail Rat posted:Those structures weren't meant to be on the same spot. Not much time has passed because Trieu's daughter is still an adolescent. You're assuming there's only one of Trieu's daughter
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It would be hilarious if they made a whole episode about this extremely fascinating character and the next episode starts off like "oh yeah right so he died after that, but anyway..."
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:Also, on Earth-HBO the Republicans are apparently AOK with a very liberal Democratic administration spending billions a year on defenses against fictional space squids when they are fully aware that said squids are part of the Veidt Power Movement and no such risk exists? Their Mitch McConnell must be hosed up. Are you kidding? They own the anti-squid defense companies. This is just how the national security grift works now that the cold war is over and the war on terror never happened.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:A narcissist doesn't actually need to seek approval from others, because they only need themselves. Hmmmmmmmmmmph
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Ive never viewed narcissist as only attention seeking, but more specifically expecting that people SHOULD give them attention because theyre perfect. They already have high self esteem, but any criticism is a slight against their world view. Thus they fixate on how wrong everyone else is and how correct they have always been (example being the president). So, less attention seeking and more assuming the world should give them what they want. "The world is better because of me and owes me something" The Mayo Clinic posted:Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism. (Source) Narcissists generally want you to think that they have excellent self-esteem and no need for affirmation from others, but it's exactly the opposite. Narcissists are people with weak senses of who they are and why they're important, so they depend on feedback from others. The type of person you're describing is probably real, but it's totally the opposite of a narcissist. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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General Dog posted:The idea that Dr. Manhattan has been ineffectual because of some flaw in his personality (and the implication that Angela or anybody else could be a "better" version of him) seems like kind of a misunderstanding of the character. His indifference is part and parcel with being all-knowing and omnipotent. It's kind of hilarious that Jon spent months, if not years, explaining how his powers work to Angela, and she just concluded that he's a selfish dummy and she would just do better things if she had powers like that. I think part of the problem with how this show handled Manhattan is that it forgot part of why Manhattan becomes so alienated from everyone in the original comic. In part it's because he's given up on his own free will, but he's also incapable of perceiving humans as meaningful because he's invested in the much broader phenomena of the modern universe. He can't devote his time to sex with Laurie because he's too busy hunting for sub-subatomic particles and proving string theory and poo poo. The show ignored all that and focused only on the plight of a man who can see his own future, making a character who speaks and acts pretty differently from the guy in the books. zoux posted:Still taking Lady Trieu at her word are we (besides I thought the Clock was the superstructure anyway, not the, whatever magic floaty ball) You're assuming the fake-space-squids are made of the same materials as actual squids.
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zoux posted:I'm assuming they aren't made of depleted uranium, especially since they dissolve harmlessly after a few minutes when not frozen. I think they have to be made out of something crazy because they're supposed to be from another dimension. I don't think it'd be crazy to have something hard in there that Ozyamandias managed to make dissolve after a few minutes. It's weird science poo poo invented by a supergenius; I don't think it's crazy that some weird stuff happens when he fucks around with it. I put it in the same "eh, if that's how you say it works, alright" category as Dr. Manhattan being able to put his powers into an egg. Owlbear Camus posted:Honestly would intermittent squidfall be enough to keep the "bigger fish to fry" detente between the US and USSR going for 33 years? Yeah, we see that most people are pretty apathetic to the squids at this point so it can't be holding off warfare. There might be a detente, though, because Redford supports detente (why Ozymandias wants him to be president) and he's seemingly administrated as a strong president for decades straight. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Dec 16, 2019 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Angela doesn’t think it was bad that Manhattan did what he did during Vietnam or just does not care. I guess she really took his apology for Vietnam seriously. massive spider posted:Keenes aborted plot where he gets both the cops and klan to wear masks and declare themselves heroes to blur the lines between the two was the actual plot that deserved examination. it's actually kinda cool that in both the narrative and the universe of the story, dr. manhattan's bullshit prevented something more interesting from happening
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massive spider posted:Reading Lindlofs post season rolling stone inteview one major misstep that seems apparent to me is that he is openly disdainful of the idea of the Kavelry as villians. Like he admits that they're kind of lame, not that threatening a presence past episode 3 and that Looking Glass can beat up 5 of them at once so who gives a poo poo, get to the real story. He spent his whole time trying to get them to do something interesting. His fart was simultaneously an admission that he'd failed and an expression of disdain toward Manhattan's pseudo-people. Did we ever figure out why Manhattan couldn't make normal people who act like normal people? Did he just prefer to have a world where all the men look alike and all the women look alike and they're all soullessly compliant freaks?
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dazoner posted:Super late to the thread, show was damned good and the finale absolutely kept theme of racism going... 3. It's interesting that you interpret it as Ozymandias finding something to do with sperm he otherwise would've just thrown out. At least in his own head, it's definitely the other way around - he'd insist he only masturbates to the end of sperm storage. Masturbating for the pleasure of masturbating is a base, mortal dependence just like sex for the pleasure of sex. 5. I don't understand what it means for Will killing Jud to be personal when the two had never met before and all Will knew about Jud was the Klan robe and Cyclops involvement, which would drive Will to kill just about anyone. I don't see how it's more personal than anything else Will did throughout the season. Can you elaborate on that?
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Hakkesshu posted:Oh yeah that guy, he's the dude who wrote that comic about Alice in wonderland loving Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz right you're thinking of Neil Gaiman lmao
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