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I'm interested in the HBO series, but I'm going in with pretty low expectations, regarding it as a curiosity more than the definitive experience. That's okay though, because the movie's already fantastic-- I just hope the added material stands up as interesting material in its own right instead of feeling like Star Wars EU stuff that overexplains every little thing from the movies.
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Steve Yun posted:edit: no wonder why Tarantino likes this guy That stood out to me too, both for the Tarantino joke (which I made at the time since I watched this with the same person I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with), and because she feels no hint of self consciousness about putting her smelly feet near his face while she's making a face about his stench (which, to be fair to her, was probably extremely bad after the night he had).
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The kink shaming itt is pretty disgusting.
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I don't know if that was all because of this film specifically or also a belated recognition of South Korean cinema in general, but I'm really glad it happened either way.
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dirksteadfast posted:This movie didn’t blow me away on the initial viewing, but it stuck in my head and just steadily becomes more and more impactful. I feel the same way. I think feeling tense while taking in the plot got in the way of appreciating the artistry in the second half a bit (it's pretty loving dour), but the longer I thought about it after that initial feeling wore off, the more positive my lasting impression was of the overall experience. I really want to rewatch it some time soon to see how I feel about the whole movie now that I know what's coming. Ogmius815 posted:I wish this movie would get a premium format release. I’d love to watch it in Dolby cinema or RPX or something. I saw Jojo rabbit in Dolby and it was real good. I don't go to theaters too often because they make me anxious for some reason, but I'd definitely make an exception for this. theblackw0lf posted:I still see too many people viewing the Park family as the "bad guys". When according to Bong he intentionally made the Park family a family that has many appealing qualities, and the critique was more on the system that leads to the Park family, who by most accounts are just a good family, still oblivious to their privilege and how the disconnect between the rich and poor lead to unintentional harmful behavior. And also how that divide leads to a lack of empathy and understanding. Yeah, the message definitely wasn't 'kill the rich, who are your enemies,' it was 'we need a better system in which the rich and poor (and poor vs poorer) aren't pitted against each other in a zero sum competition.' Steve Yun posted:Please post more people being angry about Parasite, it fills me with such warmth Please don't. Let's enjoy the moment instead of wallowing in poo poo with the worst people in the world. That said, this is violence: https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1226931132068966400 Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Reading subs can ruin pacing, which is most obvious in comedic dialogue, and you'll probably miss noticing what's going on visually more than if you weren't reading during the movie, but I still use subtitles even for most movies in English when I can.
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Feb 12, 2020 00:37
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RichterIX posted:This actually got me thinking-- do the Parks view Ki-woo and Ki-jung as beneath them? They think that Ki-woo is an active university student and that Ki-jung is a college-educated professional. In their eyes wouldn't they be in a different league from the driver and housekeeper? What's the hierarchy at work here? Yeah I think there's a difference there, especially for Ki-jung since she's ostensibly offering a professional service. A tutor seems like an edge case, in that at least in the US it's not a particularly high prestige job, especially if you're hiring a student to do it, but with the status that seems associated with English and the forged credentials that have him attending an elite university, I'd say it's still a solid step above the others, who the Parks view as menial servants. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 12, 2020 |
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I thought it was going to be a slightly different near future dystopia instead of our actual dystopia.
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GodFish posted:I don't get the black and white release thing, why not just give it another theatrical run? The movie was designed for color, surely you're losing a lot to switch to black and white Yeah it feels like a weird affectation to me. 'Back when movies were good they were all black and white, so good movies now should be too.'
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Feb 12, 2020 13:36
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Vegetable posted:I buy Bong's explanation that black-and-white is a viscerally different experience. It makes you focus on a different sort of thing. I don't think anyone claims that this is the authoritative way to watch the film, but it's a conversion made with care. It's worth a dabble. The same article also has him basically saying the 'like when movies were good' thing too though: "I think it may be vanity on my part, but when I think of the classics, they're all in black and white," he said at the International Film Festival Rotterdam, where he dropped in during a chaotic awards season schedule to give a master class and present the world premiere of the new Parasite edit. "So I had this idea that if I turned my films into black and white then they'd become classics." If people want to watch it that way, by all means go for it. I'd be way more interested in a regular rerelease though.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Should I feel dumb? Nah, the message was there, but it's not screaming the message at you like the worse version of it some on the left wish it had been would have. When I watched it I got the gist of it, but seeing things other people picked up definitely helped me appreciate what was going on even more, which is part of why I'm looking forward to rewatching it.
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Feb 12, 2020 18:26
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YaketySass posted:Or "nice". The Parks have the power to twist the life of their employees in all sort of subtle and hosed up ways but by superficial standards of what an upper class person should act like they're not even bad people, not openly forceful, etc. The implicit power differential does most of the work in getting compliance before it is even asked. Yeah they're nice in the sense that they're genteel and have good manners, just like good little aristocrats, but it doesn't mean they're actually good people. That said, they're not particularly awful people either, they're just removed from people lower on the ladder by their class.
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fenix down posted:It's left wing in the same way Ricky Gervais is right-wing for "tellin' it like it is" to the "Hollywood elites"! Sometimes people see what they wanna see instead of engaging with the content, like the whole uproar over the Joker trailer. No it's definitely left wing--Bong's been pretty clear about it being a critique of capitalism. It's just not left wing in the cartoon/shitpost 'let's kill all the rich people because they're monsters' sense, but rather 'the capitalist system we live in stratifies us in ways that dehumanize us all.'
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Feb 13, 2020 16:25
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MorrisBae posted:I'm not asking out of ignorance, but because I genuinely don't watch subtitled films a lot - but instead of remaking this for American audiences, wouldn't dubbing it into English be easier? Or is dubbing frowned upon these days? Just watch with subs. https://twitter.com/thewrap/status/1213998533889556480?lang=en
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Feb 13, 2020 17:35
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Doctor Reynolds posted:I don't get why people keep saying the poor family scammed the rich family. They are performing the jobs they were hired for! Completely! People who lie about their credentials are generally regarded as scammers even if they do a competent job. Besides, there clearly wasn't a lot of tutoring or art lessons going on, even if the mom barely gave a poo poo what was going on beyond having sitters for her kids anyway.
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Feb 13, 2020 20:40
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Steve Yun posted:Kijung doesn’t do any art therapy. But, she keeps the son out of the mom’s hair, so she’s a glorified babysitter. One funny detail was that Jessica makes it clear that her services are not tutoring and that she is doing therapy, and therefore she need to get paid a lot of money. The mom nods, but it goes in one ear and out the other and 10 seconds later when the dad comes home she introduces Jessica is the art teacher instead of the therapist. I think that's as much about Mrs. Park not wanting her husband to know there are any problems in the home as anything.
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Feb 13, 2020 20:58
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Guy A. Person posted:The Kims are bad tho for sure, but they’re also stuck trying to claw their way up in an utterly broken system, the daughter lying about art is like the least of their crimes by far Depends on what you mean by lying about art. Pretending to have knowledge about it that she can use to help encourage the kid's talent is one thing, but convincing a mother her kid's mentally ill and needs help in order to squeeze more money from her is pretty hosed up. I think that would have come off as more monstrous if it hadn't been in the lighthearted caper half of the movie.
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Feb 14, 2020 02:22
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They had enough money to stabilize their situation after getting the tutoring jobs, and I don't think anyone faults them for what they did there since it's more or less a victimless crime (though exploiting fears about mental illness to get more money starts the moral decline). Getting the driver fired and, obviously, causing a potentially life threatening allergic reaction (and hiding her medicine, right?) to get rid of the housekeeper was well beyond just doing what they had to do to survive. Then actually murdering the housekeeper to keep the con going is another step beyond that. The victims of the Kims aren't the Parks, so it's weird to decide the Kims are fundamentally decent people.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was it to murder them with though? 100% yes, I don't think this was meant to be ambiguous.
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SolarFire2 posted:I worked as a private driver/chauffeur for a year way back when. I was extremely triggered every time Me. Kim turned his head to look back at his passenger. Doubly so when he turned his entire body. Yeah I was genuinely relieved when Mr. Park told him to keep his eyes on the road.
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