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Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

mfcrocker posted:

And there goes the Lib Dem Brexit policy formally

Would love a post-mortem sometime about how they've quite hosed it this badly

Lmao that the Lib Dem’s tactic of being an inch to the side of remain of labours policy so they can always call themselves The Remain party has hosed themselves like this. I assume the new policy will be 2nd ref BUT WE CAMPAIGN FOR REMAIN now that corbyn has given them a face saving niche to backtrack into.

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wocobob
Jan 7, 2014

damages enemies w/ corn

Chuff McNothing posted:

FPTP metrics : win half the seats with 100% of the vote, lose half of them with 49% of the vote. If the swing doesn't quite win a seat it may as well never have occured there.

also they'll be increasing their vote share by a greater amount in areas they already do well in, less so in areas they don't

I see. So it’s kind of like the US popular vote in that respect? Like with +5pts in britain wide polling, a couple points of that could go into juicing Corbyn and Abbott’s margins or something?

But also wouldn’t -5pts from GE2017 also make labour a lot more likely to lose the ultra marginals like Canterbury or Kensington? Or is the result in those not so necessary to the hung parliament status?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
If Lib Dems end losing seats I will laugh so hard I will likely do a tiny little wee

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/nadinebh_/status/1200850733387698176

Andrew Marr will make absolutely no mention of this, bet you anything.

Thank you for this.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I'm starting to think polling companies might be bad at their job

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1200869070410846209

peanut- fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Nov 30, 2019

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
There's probably a gross sex thread somewhere people can post in

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

peanut- posted:

I'm starting to think polling companies might be bad at their job

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1200868005690925057

Top lines are trash, just enjoy seeing that 4pt swing.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Rarity posted:

If Lib Dems end losing seats I will laugh so hard I will likely do a tiny little wee

Toxx this you cowa... eww maybe not.

Are we talking seats from 2017 or seats from now? Because they started with 12 and ended up with 20 thanks to all those tories and melts.

Continuity RCP posted:

There's probably a gross sex thread somewhere people can post in

I thought ... I thought that this was that thread?

E: https://twitter.com/drjennings/status/1200848334908461056

RockyB fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Nov 30, 2019

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Blasmeister posted:

Lmao that the Lib Dem’s tactic of being an inch to the side of remain of labours policy so they can always call themselves The Remain party has hosed themselves like this. I assume the new policy will be 2nd ref BUT WE CAMPAIGN FOR REMAIN now that corbyn has given them a face saving niche to backtrack into.

2nd referendum but the only option is to revoke Article 50. Jo doesn't know it yet because she's too busy fighting squirrels, but that will be her next announcement.

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM

gh0stpinballa posted:

it behooves you as a self-described leftist not to sneer at issues like consent and sexual harassment, imo

regdate: Mar 5, 2019

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

peanut- posted:

I'm starting to think polling companies might be bad at their job

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1200869070410846209

Yeah, we were massively skeptical about the last poll because 47% for the Tories was a ludicrously high outlier, but 46% seems a lot more plausible.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Shogi posted:

Thanks for your replies, all. Your range of thoughts pretty much reflects my own. I've not been responding by rolling my eyes back into my head and doing the Bodysnatcher squeal, so don't worry about about me appearing in the local rag next to an aggrieved pensioner who only wants to herd the foreigns into the North Sea. Mostly wanted to sanity check what I'm doing. Honestly I try to sow the seed of doubt but I've got a much lower threshold for disengaging and moving on than some fellas. I'm on firmer ground hunting centrists and they're-all-the-same types.

someone who goes off in a rant like that, there's no way you're changing their mind during a quick doorstep session. best you can hope for is yeah, sowing some doubts (and maybe discouraging them from bothering if they're voting right wing) but otherwise save your time and emotional energy for others

maybe ask some of the other canvassers how they quickly disengage and move on, there's a skill in assertively bringing it to a close with a positive message, so you can just leave without seeming aggressive or like you're running away. Wont work on everyone, but if someone's still ranting at that point there's no shame in walking away. Just try and think of it like a task you need to complete, you're not having personal conversations, y'know?

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

u brexit ukip it posted:

I'm convincing myself to go canvassing tomorrow for Ali Milani, in Johnson's constituency. Never done this before but I'm assuming they need all the help they can get.

That's fantastic. If you enjoy it next time you could consider going to Putney or Dagenham - Milani gets loads of volunteers (which makes it a good starter location) because of the profile of the seat, but there are other (more neglected) London marginals that Labour needs to form a government.

twoot fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Nov 30, 2019

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Braggart posted:

Yeah, we were massively skeptical about the last poll because 47% for the Tories was a ludicrously high outlier, but 46% seems a lot more plausible.

That most of the polls are showing a swing to labour is the important thing, it's still true that this one almost certainly overestimates the Tories.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Quite in awe of the speed and efficiency with which the Lib Dems have driven themselves into the ground again.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Cerebral Bore posted:

Quite in awe of the speed and efficiency with which the Lib Dems have driven themselves into the ground again.
Lib Dem Fightback!

it's been incredible how quickly people forgot that the Lib Dems are poo poo, and how quickly they seem to be remembering again. fickle beasts, are voters

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Oh dear me posted:

Noooooo! I mean yes ok serious thinking always good I suppose, but please let us not think serious thoughts like 'oh god we have failed and must Do Something'.

There was a Tory government from 1979 to 1997. There was a Tory government from 1951 to 1964. The system is rigged in their favour, it's hard to get them out, and it basically never happens just because they are brutal. If we lose we need to hold our nerve, so that we're worth electing when we finally win.

I mean why I say "do something" it's less "give up all hope" & more "thank Jeremy for his hard work and have him step aside for a younger leader leader who is every bit as radical". I'm sure the new Labour leader will just be as savagely attacked for the most innocent things, but at least there will be slightly less baggage, & a chance for a reset. The fundamental principles I supported when I was 16 & socialism was thought of as long dead, The End of History & all that pish, I'll still be a socialist till the day I die I'd imagine. All that's really changed is my stance on more of a freedom/totalitarianism scale than the inequality/equality scale and that's because I really didn't even know jot about anarchism, the only time it was ever mentioned is when some big meanies in all black would smash up shop windows on May Day.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Blasmeister posted:

Lmao that the Lib Dem’s tactic of being an inch to the side of remain of labours policy so they can always call themselves The Remain party has hosed themselves like this. I assume the new policy will be 2nd ref BUT WE CAMPAIGN FOR REMAIN now that corbyn has given them a face saving niche to backtrack into.

the best part is Revoke is their main position even though they have no hope of forcing it, so they positioned a second ref as being like a consolation prize they don't actually want. And because they've publicly ruled out working with Corbyn so many times because of their parliamentary shenanigans, everyone assumes their realistic pitch to everyone is "vote for us and we'll try to get a second referendum, on Boris's deal" with all the support that implies

pretty amazing achievement to be the worst option for Remain AND Leave voters

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/nadinebh_/status/1200850733387698176

Andrew Marr will make absolutely no mention of this, bet you anything.
Sorry there's no money to prevent people from being stabbed to death in broad daylight

Jfc this blood is on Johnson's hands, gently caress him.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Nosfereefer posted:

regdate: Mar 5, 2019

lol a regdate argument in 2019, what a world

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009
So is it just my bubble, or have Abbott and Thornberry not been leaned on as Labour spokespeople much during this campaign?

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

another darkly funny thing about these attacks is how the dipshits always pledge fealty to ISIS on facebook or whatever before they do it and it's now known that ISIS PR guys wait to see how successful/scary the attack was before deciding whether to take credit for it.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Horny is MANDATORY

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Nosfereefer posted:

regdate: Mar 5, 2019

What the gently caress is this

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Irony Be My Shield posted:

Sorry there's no money to prevent people from being stabbed to death in broad daylight

Jfc this blood is on Johnson's hands, gently caress him.

Eh, there's no money to pay to prevent people going hungry, nor to make sure we get decent healthcare, nor to help the elderly and disabled live as independently as possible, nor to keep people who lose their jobs out of poverty and eviction. The only difference with this is that it's not the traditional tory line to say "Sorry, can't afford law & order" out loud

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Nov 30, 2019

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

ThomasPaine posted:

That most of the polls are showing a swing to labour is the important thing, it's still true that this one almost certainly overestimates the Tories.

Indeed. Check the pluses and minuses, peeps. Be skeptical of the headline figures :)

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Cerebral Bore posted:

Quite in awe of the speed and efficiency with which the Lib Dems have driven themselves into the ground again.

That's Jo's Lib Dems, mate. Get it right.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Continuity RCP posted:

What the gently caress is this

Still got it!

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Cerebral Bore posted:

Quite in awe of the speed and efficiency with which the Lib Dems have driven themselves into the ground again.

Jo Swinson's bunker is the only place she can be safe from the squirrel army. They have the Lib Dems on the run, and are holding most of Jo's constituency. Things are grim.

Go on peeps. Do some Downfall memes. I know you want to :D

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
sad to see the :regd: smileys don't cover 2014-15 but there's already one for 2020

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Nosfereefer posted:

regdate: Mar 5, 2019

i mean i don't think i've said anything out of line? i saw a take and thought i'd share it cos it interested me. literally just "hey if you wanna talk sexual energy that is cool but also let's be chill and mindful of other people's vibes", you know?

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

baka kaba posted:

Still got it!

Herpes Simplex?

E: Christ this is the second time I've confused Herpes and Hepatitis A in this thread in the last month.

Herpes HSV-1 is present in more than half the human population, according to the WHO https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11963109/You-probably-have-herpes-according-to-WHO.html

Hepatitis A is the one that once you get it from someone's poo poo covered hands the antibodies stay with you for life. Thanks for telling me I had Hepatitis without specifying A, B or C NHS!

EE: :regd07: c'moooon

RockyB fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Nov 30, 2019

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Nosfereefer posted:

regdate: Mar 5, 2019
:regd11: spotted

Continuity RCP posted:

What the gently caress is this
we get a cool one though :regd10:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Ms Adequate posted:

Horny is MANDATORY

Lady, I like the cut of your jib!

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
thank God I didn't reg two days later

Chuff McNothing
Sep 9, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Halisnacks posted:

So is it just my bubble, or have Abbott and Thornberry not been leaned on as Labour spokespeople much during this campaign?

been a lot more rlb and dawn butler and less abbott/thornberry.

probably a sensible decision - at this point any message is going to be drowned out by people who have made up their mind about the latter as people, and the two former have newer, younger energy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Braggart posted:

What about sex dwarf sex chat chat chat?

These are the first 5 Google image search results for "Sunday Sport sex dwarf". There are many more :D











A shame that jeremy was eaten by otters because otherwise we could have an entire sex dwarf front bench for the sex dwarf state visit next week.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
My sex dwarf could beat up your sex dwarf.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1200884503704678402?s=20

:getin:

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gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

the polls are blagging heads

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