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Jesus Christ, 54 is no age at all. RIP to one of the all time greats.
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Berserk is genuinely one of the best fantasy epics inside any medium, enjoy the ride
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May 20, 2021 21:54
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https://twitter.com/cirenkoyenk/status/1395421927712325635?s=20 Well, it's something
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May 21, 2021 11:19
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One thing I really appreciated was how deep Miura went on the false Christ theme with Griffith, making him the object of worship of an early Christian apocalypse cult, destroying the beast of revelation and creating his own heaven on earth, it was pretty cook to see a story take that concept and imagery and use them as a serious focus of the story and not just as superficial set dressing
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May 21, 2021 12:40
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Larryb posted:Fair enough, and as others have said the last published chapter works well enough as an ending in a sense (I forget though, are there any plot threads that still remain unresolved?) Aside from the Godhand having got everything they wanted and having turned most of the material realm into hell on earth?
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May 21, 2021 15:51
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I haven't caught up on what will be volume 41 yet, but I don't see how the story could have any kind of satisfying conclusion without at a minimum the tree and Griffith both getting the boot and Guts has (I think?) the only tool in mankind's possession that could do the job. A final confrontation between the two would seem like the only proper way to end the story, they can't just be having the entire D&D monster manual go sicko mode over 99% on the planet forever
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May 21, 2021 18:23
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hatty posted:the only animated Berserk thing I need is that Rickert slap AMV This also
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May 21, 2021 18:23
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Aesop Poprock posted:Isn't that the difference between them though? Griffith would sacrifice everything to change the world and Guts literally just wanted a place to belong and be with people he loved and who loved him, even if he was incapable of expressing that desire. He and Griffith achieved that together but Griffith can never be satisfied and he doesn't understand how to achieve the relatively simple level of happiness Guts can reach because it's just not something on his radar. Guts has never known peace, and Griffith knew Guts' ultimate goal of peace and acceptance without having to struggle so massively for it to the point that he had to go insanely beyond the level to emulate it to even attempt to grasp it. Guts living out his retirement in a walled garden as the rest of the world turns to hell would be a really bleak ending though, like great for him that he's found some peace and Griffith privately sucks but is still the king of the world when everyone else is fleeing from the rape trolls. In my mind their ideologies were going to have to come into direct conflict again for whatever reason, Griffith's false utopia built on the inflicting of unimaginable cruelties against the rest of the world being torn down by by the avatar of human perseverance basically writes itself
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May 22, 2021 11:16
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I think The Slap would have ended up being one of the pivotal events of the plot, it's literally the first thing to go against Griffith since his reincarnation and the first chip in the facade of Falconia, definitely one of those ripples the Godhand didn't see coming
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May 22, 2021 13:38
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atelier morgan posted:Defeating griffith and fixing the world coming down to the next generation (schierke and rickert et al) is what makes the most sense to me, moreso than guts being the one to do it personally Rickert's cool and sincerely owns for giving Griffith the business but there's precisely one human we've seen on the face of the planet who even has the means of harming the Godhand, like if they threw down for real what could Rickert ever do against Femto?
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May 22, 2021 20:15
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Lucasar posted:Didn't they say at some point that time passes differently on Elf Island? I sort of figured a middle aged Rickert / Silat combo would show up randomly asking for Guts and Casca to come help them with some form of resistance, then they all get a final boon from the Elves that makes them feel like they have a chance. We've already seen cautionary tales of using the Behelit or Berserker Armour with Zod and Skull Knight, I'd imagined Guts' endgame would have been surpassing his predecessors and finding a way forward without sacrificing his humanity. Fittingly enough the only magical artifact that doesn't carry a terrible cost is the one Guts made himself - the Dragon Slayer David D. Davidson posted:There being some kind of magic undo button that fixes the world wouldn't really fit woth the story. I mean take a look at Casca, they managed to magic up a way to fixed her mind but still the underlying trauma is still there and she still has quite a ways to go before she's okay. I doubt killing Griffith or any kind of other magical fix would unfuck the world either, instead I think people would just have to learn how not just to survive but actually carry on and live in this new broken world. Fantasia only exists because of that friggin tree. Kill. The. Tree.
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May 22, 2021 22:35
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Yeah the Black Swordsman arc art holds up pretty well, it's hardly like some of the anatomy in Phantom Blood JoJo
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May 24, 2021 13:13
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Things seem to have taken a bad turn for the ol' band of the hawk
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May 24, 2021 20:26
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TheLoneStar posted:I might just take a bit of a break. Maybe reading over two hundred chapters of a single manga in roughly a week has got me burnt out. Felt like a real chore to read the last few chapters. So far, it's the art that's captured me the most in the series, even more than the characters or the storyline itself. The Golden Age really lives up to its name because so far that was by far the best part of the manga for me from what I've read, and it's been disappointing its gone downhill from there. Binging is bad for the brain so I respect this choice, but Berserk is absolutely worth coming back to. The Falcon of the New Millenium arc is fantastic and some of the most iconic Berserk aside from the Golden Age
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May 26, 2021 21:54
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temple posted:NSFW Well, obviously
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May 27, 2021 12:29
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OnimaruXLR posted:I'll always be curious if Griffith believed his own bullshit, from that speech with Charlotte, or if it was just part of his elaborate web of sophistry he uses to justify his conquest. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually doesn't realize how much Guts meant to him, but at the same time he seems to have a pretty firm grasp on most other poo poo, so it'd be kind of odd of him to indulge in flagrant self-deception (especially given the times that he shows his vulnerable side to Guts previously) My take from his last thoughts was a human as that he knew how much Guts meant to him and resented Guts for it, and then following rape scene was him deliberately tearing down their love triangle in the most horrifically spiteful way possible
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May 28, 2021 13:41
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Griffith's got exactly what he wanted all long, he's the king of the world and everybody loves him. I don't know why it should be taken as read that it's a scam and he's planning to kill his devoted followers - he is *literally* living the dream
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May 28, 2021 17:15
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lezard_valeth posted:God I loving hate Charlotte. She is the stupidest character by a long mile and I couldn't see her becoming any smarter. Like I get it she was spoiled and sheltered, but come the gently caress on I liked her bishonen embroideries of Griffith
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Jun 5, 2021 09:41
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It's also just straight up got the world spiral tree as a central piece of the world geometry too...
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Jun 12, 2021 00:56
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I don't see the downside to his assitants carrying on the torch and finishing the story, if it's good then great, if it sucks you can just ignore its existence and treat it like the fail Dune books or whatever
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Aug 12, 2021 18:36
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Shinjobi posted:I think 100% of his fanbase knew he wanted more two page spreads of Griffith. I think from his resurrection there wasn't a single panel with Griffith in where he wasn't the focal point
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Aug 13, 2021 21:53
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Berserk: A Realm Reborn
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Sep 8, 2021 07:33
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griffith: im baby
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Sep 9, 2021 19:20
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I dunno he still has an invincible army of demons and a magic tree that makes nightmares real and his city the only save haven in the world from all of it, it's a good character moment but it's still a petty moral victory and that would have been an insanely bad way to deliberately end the story
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Sep 9, 2021 23:28
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Brandfarlig posted:There is no free will I say as I commit mass murder and rape in order to turn into a demonlord. drat it would be hosed up if something like this 'determinism' existed in real life, imagine the implications!
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Mar 9, 2022 21:41
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christmas boots posted:Doesn't the metaphor of a fish jumping out of water get used at some point? Like the fish is defying fate but also not really because it goes back into the water and gets swallowed up regardless. The fish jumping out of the water creates ripples though, disturbing the face of the pond. I took it as a chaos theory-like metaphor, Guts surviving led to the formation of the new Guts crew, Rickert becoming alienated from Griffith and giving him the slap and would have almost certainly led to an unforeseen outcome with the moonlight child. Events were stacking up that seemed to be outside the Godhand's vision, which I figured was going to be their downfall
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Mar 23, 2022 08:57
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Ultimately it can't diminish what came before so if it sucks, whatever, but a story this grand in scope and long in the making deserves a chance to finish. And personally I think it has the opportunity to be a better tribute to Miura's legacy than uncerimoniously ending in the middle of a pivotable character scene
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Jun 7, 2022 19:30
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If I were to guess, I'd say the biggest change going forward is likely to be much less intensely detailed panels that look like they took a month to draw, which great as they were would be a small price to pay for a regular release schedule and no one else's hearts exploding
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Jun 9, 2022 19:30
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Using the Behelit always struck me as Guts' bad end (that's basically who Zod is) and would work against the theme of human perseverance against overwhelming odds he's represented up until this point. Also wouldn't it necessitate his new band of the hawk getting eaten in any case?
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Aug 12, 2022 12:18
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One day we'll look back and say 'it may have taken 40 years to complete and the original author didn't live to see the end, but when it was all said and done Guts sure did kill the hell out of Griffith'
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Aug 12, 2022 17:58
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Harlock posted:Berserk is a tragedy at its core, but I think the growth of Guts' character is to not end up like Skullknight (cursed to roam forever only driven by vengeance) and Griffith (sacrificed everything including his humanity for power and glory). Guts represents the human struggle and by extension, hope, to keep pressing through what life/fate has to throw at us. That's kind of how I see it, Skull Knight and Zod are both mirrors to Guts who failed in some way along the way and his task os not to fail like they did. I think you're writing off the sword too quickly though, that is his only means of closing the gap and striking a god and has been the visual representation of his superhuman resolve since the story began, I don't think it's going away any time soon
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Aug 12, 2022 18:25
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In the Eclipse's case I do think a more 'tasteful' portrayal of the scene would have been less impactful, the entire sequence from the start is a no holds barred nightmare scene from everyone being murdered and eaten alive through to the rape scene. It's the reason I basically never recommend the manga to anyone but I do think the shockingly direct depiction is what makes it such an effective piece of horror too
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Aug 16, 2022 18:09
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LordMune posted:We, including you, were discussing the Eclipse. If you think Miura didn't deliberately adopt a pornographic perspective for shock value I don't know what to tell you. I did not think that scene was pornographic, that's a pretty weird take away from it imo
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Aug 19, 2022 07:04
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Ethiser posted:From a few days ago, but doesn’t the brand keep Behelits from triggering for Guts and Casca? I thought their souls were already marked as being sacrifices for the apostles or something like that. Slan was torturing Guts in an attempt to get him to use his, so she seemed to think it would work at least
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Sep 13, 2022 08:00
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:When did Skully get Guts' behelit, I thought Puck still had it? Again, Slan literally beat up Guts and physically restrained him so this definitely is not the case!
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Sep 13, 2022 16:06
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British legitimate theatre actors moonlighting in VA were born to do Berserk
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Sep 26, 2022 21:18
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christmas boots posted:Unfortunate, but probably not a huge surprise given that other manga he was doing. For real
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Dec 18, 2022 20:44
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For me the big giveaway on Miura's predilections would have been when like five people were banned for talking about his paedo manga here
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Guts is going to vertically bisect Griffith fron the dick up like Trunks did to Zamasu
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