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tomapot posted:Great summary from Adam Shiff Holy poo poo, yeah, that closing statement was incredible. And loving devastating, just as commentary for the situation we’re looking at, in so far as how some folks are just excusing Trump’s actions as par for the course.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Quote this post if you want the ‘I want nothing’ Gang Tag whenever it gets uploaded. Thank you sir I will take one.
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Who do y’all think has been the most effective from the committee throughout the public hearings, other than Schiff and Goldman? Swalwell’s been great, but Castro’s been really good, too.
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E-flat posted:Do you mean intentionally effective or unintentionally effective Intentionally. But, yeah, I guess comedy options like Gym could apply.
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nine-gear crow posted:lol that forced pause for applause. Not even the Republicans knew what he was doing and took like 3 whole seconds before they started clapping. None of them are even paying attention. Probably haven’t been for hours. They’re all on the same page and nothing will change their minds. The applause was probably started because a staffer nudged someone and that got the wave going. This is all some really depressing poo poo. It’s gonna set some really bad precedents once the Senate acquits.
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Drinking game. Take a drink every time someone says something that is really stupid. I’m reporting this post because you’re basically advocating death by alcohol poisoning.
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Ershalim posted:Did the house/senate always talk this way? When did the overwrought chest puffing become the norm? I guess it's not really germane to the impeachment itself, but neither is most of what they've been saying, so....? Grandstanding has always been a thing. It’s not really unique to the US, either. It’s only really exaggerated because we’ve got a president that’s fuller of bullshit than any other before him, the folks defending his rear end are fully onboard with his bullshit, and our awareness of his bullshit is incredibly enhanced by how easily we can get information that refutes said bullshit.
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Thom12255 posted:There's no limit as far as I know. I saw an article earlier saying that they might impeach him again before the election whatever the Senate does. Yeah, the House just does the investigation and makes the recommendation to the Senate. The Senate does the conviction. Just because they recommend the president for one offense doesn’t mean they can’t recommend additional articles of impeachment for different offenses. Edit: I’m not savvy on the exact terminology, but that’s basically how it works. House impeaches on an offense, Senate convicts. House can impeach on any other offenses as they see fit. Then those go to the Senate. generic one fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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There Bias Two posted:Trump is impeached. I hope he reacts live at his rally. 
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Wait! Where’d that one Republican vote go?! Gone now?
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Thom12255 posted:Why the hell does it take so long to press a button on a screen. Because if you didn’t find a way to further gum up the process it might not take as long?
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MrBuddyLee posted:Stanning for George Clooney as Lev Parnas. Getting a Joe Pesci with a voice modulator and an intentionally lovely haircut vibe, honestly. Edit: He’s already got the chin size, just needs it made into a full on cleft-chin with a prosthetic or some serious makeup. generic one fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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refleks posted:Soo.... He was just on Ari Melber’s show taking about how abuse of power isn’t an impeachable offense. Guessing that’s what he’s gonna present as a “witness”. He also pressed back on being a member of the legal team.
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Djarum posted:Yeah I just caught the tail end of it. His argument on it all fell apart with the least bit of push back from Ari so he might not actually make it to the Senate. I got the feeling he was basically saying, yes, Trump abused his power, but it doesn’t matter because that’s not impeachable? It was pretty crazy. Flies in the face of how they’ve been trying to frame it (i.e. a PERFECT CALL, no quid quo pro, no abuse of power), so it’s either a new strategy, or you’re right and soon we’re gonna hear the administration announce Dersh ain’t on the team anymore.
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It loving sucks this doesn’t work like a regular court case. I mean, I get a lot of reasons why that’s just not logistically possible, but every time Trump’s defense team just blatantly lies, it would be great to have a sustained objection where the judge tells them to knock it the gently caress off. Also, there’s the whole witness thing. If someone goes on trial for murder, the defense can’t just get a waiver on the prosecution calling someone who witnessed that poo poo first-hand.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Ive been sick as a drat dog all day. How's it going for us? Do you really want to know or would you prefer getting back to being soused on ZzzQuil? I’m gonna answer that for you: ZzzQuil is the better option.
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Charlz Guybon posted:WTF... how was emoluments and general corruption not an impeachable offense? Oh, it is. You’ve just gotta live in a country where polling is over ~60% against those things and have a super majority in one legislative body that would be down with finding the defendant guilty.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Do we care if Biden gets destroyed? I don’t think anyone on this forum is a Biden stan, but an argument could be made that 1) This shouldn’t matter, in the case of the impeachment of Donald John Trump, and allowing Hunter’s testimony during the trial would just make this even more of a constitutional shitshow than it already is, and 2). If Joe Biden somehow (god, please, lord, do not allow this to happen) were to get the nomination, it’d be 2016 all over again with the bullshit “BUT HER EMAILS” rallies.
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Otteration posted:If Joe/Hunter Biden did hinky things they should be prosecuted. As should Bernie, Warren, Pete, or anyone one else, including the orange fecal smear. Right, something I neglected to say in my last post: They should absolutely be prosecuted, but whatever Hunter did should have zero bearing on the impeachment hearings. There is zero reason that they need to hear about totally unrelated crimes in a trial about these specific crimes.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I wish it was that kind of sick. User name/post combo is making for some mental images I’m gonna have nightmares about.
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Random Stranger posted:They're already going to do that whether Hunter Biden testifies or not. Not only have all the horses left that barn, they've all gotten paying commentator gigs for all major news and propaganda services. You can't try to preempt disingenuous and dishonest right wing talking points because they are disingenuous and dishonest. So that's not a good reason to block Hunter Biden from testifying. Sure, they’re going to do that, but I contend it would be less of an issue if Hunter Biden wasn’t called before this shitshow. You remember what happened during the Benghazi hearings, right? The administration did everything by the book, for the most part, but by allowing Republican shitheads to get their Fox News host talking points on video, in front of a large audience, and by allowing selective editing of those videos, they further damaged the image of Hillary Clinton as a trustworthy alternative to Donald John Trump. On top of that, why? Why even give them that win, since we know it’s gonna contribute to a disinformation campaign? Don’t give them the footage. Don’t give them the editing opportunities. They should just tell them to gently caress off and hold the sham trial they’re already gonna hold, regardless of who testified on either side.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Well, sure. But if the only way to get the witnesses we want is to sacrifice Hunter, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Prosecute Hunter? Sure, absolutely. Prosecute Hunter during this impeachment trial? Absolutely not.
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mcmagic posted:He isn't going to be prosecuted. He'll just have to go in front of America and talk about what a failson he is and his no show job/jobs. Cool, let’s have him do that in a hearing that has nothing to do with the impeachable crimes of Donald John Trump.
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Sounds like word’s coming in Ted Cruz is demanding Hunter Biden’s testimony in exchange for John Bolton’s. Edit: Robert Costa’s taking about it on MSNBC. Don’t have a link or anything.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:
Cruz was just relaying the sentiments of GOP senators, wasn’t just his demand specifically. That was about it. No official statement or anything, but if they’re floating poo poo like this now, it’s pretty apparent that’s how they’re gonna rationalize not calling any witnesses at all, assuming the Dems aren’t willing to bring the Bidens into this loving sham trial.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i mean id say give it to them hunter if he is up to it and than let them hang themselves more for November. I dunno. Last night in the thread, a bunch of folks were hashing out how this is gonna play, and I’m still of the opinion it’d be better to just let the Republicans have their stupid sham trial and dismiss it than call in the Bidens during the impeachment trial of Donald John Trump, because: 1) If Joe and Hunter did some bad poo poo, let them be prosecuted in a relevant trial. It has zero to do with the articles of impeachment, because it doesn’t matter if they were doing bad poo poo. The president wanted a sovereign nation to launch an investigation into a political rival and went mob boss on their asses. The investigation was for his own personal gain, no matter the results of said investigation. Allowing Joe or Hunter to testify would conflate the two. 2). We have zero guarantee Bolton will testify with anything meaningful. He’s a complete unknown at this point, and regardless of what people have already testified, he could undo all of that with a simple “I don’t recall.” 3) Benghazi, on steroids. Even if the Bidens did nothing wrong, the appearance at trial will allow that poo poo to eat up news cycles and it’ll be a repeat of 2016, should Biden get the nomination. Note: I do not want Biden to get the nomination, I am all in on Sanders, I am just speaking to that hypothetical.
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arbybaconator posted:I was listening to a stream at around 6:20 EST today and someone was screaming while someone was speaking. I think they got escorted out, and you could still hear the guy screaming in the hallway. Anyone know what happened? Heard that, too. No idea. Super curious about what was going on, but haven’t been able to find anything on it so far. I know that’s not super helpful, but at least we can both confirm neither of us were just imagining things? Edit: It was while Hakeem Jeffries was speaking, so at least that can be a point of reference. generic one fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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eke out posted:lotta reporters tweeting about that, he was screaming "JESUS" and then after being dragged out he was apparently yelling about abortion in the hallways Oh, cool. So... just normal right wing talking points and also probably Q related bullshit. Perfectly normal. PERRRRRFECTLY normal.
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Toobly posted:I apologize if this has been brought up already (probably a while back or in another thread) but I was reading conflicting things so I was just hoping to clarify it. Nope. All that poo poo gets voted on. Even if Roberts wanted to allow witnesses, which, you know, is doubtful, he can get overruled by a majority vote. This isn’t what you’d expect from a criminal trial, by any means.
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Framboise posted:"My impeachment trial has the best ratings. The best. Creepy Clinton didn't have as good of ratings as mine has. America came to watch me win over the do-nothing no-good Democrats and Shifty Schiff!" You jest, but there’s probably a non-zero chance someone could convince him to give up the goods if they made a pitch for him being the first president ever removed from office by framing it as being the sole member of the most exclusive club (resigning not included) in US history.
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empty whippet box posted:Trump is so loving stupid he even manages to piss off the one person in the country who truly has the power to remove him from office if he decides it's what he wants to do. They all knew this was gonna come out, probably even Mitch, they just hoped they could get the trial over with before Bolton’s manuscript leaked.
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Djarum posted:Likely it probably came from the White House itself, like the call record, thinking that it would play much differently than it has. If the NY Times has something it ALWAYS is a purposeful leak from the White House. Remember all those times leaks would happen about the administration having meetings about how people were leaking? The White House had a copy, sure, but it doesn’t mean they wanted it to leak.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Oh the other hand he’s going to be acquitted and Biden is going to be the dem mom and hopefully cromocirus kills me I don’t know what’s going on here, but yeah, let’s keep it weird. 
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mcmagic posted:Cancel the SOTU you coward. Yeah, how do they honestly see this ending by Tuesday? Deny witnesses tomorrow morning, acquit in the afternoon? Even if this sham goes until Monday, that seems like an unreasonably short turnaround to just let the dude go up and address congress in that type of setting. Sure, there’s no rule against it, but that just seems like really lovely optics for anyone but Donald John Trump.
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Djarum posted:That's interesting at least. It was probably just a hand-drawn picture of dick butt.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:lol. one of the better side effects is the base is gonna loving go nuts on anyone who doesnt blow trump and talk about how the call was perfect even though they saved his fat rear end. Romney’s pretty safe, though. Utah chuds aren’t the same as non-Utah chuds. Sure, he may get some sternly worded emails and tweets, but he’s not gonna get Eric Cantored.
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Retro42 posted:Yeah, CPAC disinviting Romney isn’t going to lose him the Utah Mormon vote. It’s the Collins vote I don’t get. She’s loving desperate, obviously, but she’s already unpopular enough. She probably should’ve just gone all in on the Trump train. I don’t think she’s gonna improve with Dems/independents just because of this vote, and she probably just split her republican base support.
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nine-gear crow posted:Well, looks like Mitt's hall pass has officially expired or he's seen the reaction to his vote and is scared so he's siding with the Republicans on Schumer's amendements. Someone probably threatened backing McMuffin in 2024.
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FizFashizzle posted:Manchin is just trying to avoid having to vote on impeachment himself, or giving himself cover to vote against it. Manchin’s lovely, but are there any votes he didn’t go with the rest of the Dems during the sham trial? I know he voted for witnesses, which was kinda surprising to me. They know they’re not gonna get two thirds to remove Trump. Censuring him only takes a majority. I think everyone needs to get on the record with a vote on removal, but if they then vote to censure him and succeed, at least that’s something. It would absolutely drive Trump crazy, too. generic one fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Feb 3, 2020 |
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