Irish Politics 2020: come out you leo stans & fight me like a man

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Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

EmmyOk posted:

The brexit reference is maddening because like 1% of voters said they cared about it

It's the only Irish-linked political issue they are even vaguely aware off, along with 'The Troubles'. Irish internal politics are entirely unknown to them, and therefore unimportant.

(also Sinn Fein did not make irish unification a major part of their election manifesto - it just isn't a pressing issue for the majority of the electorate, and they know it.)

# ¿ Feb 10, 2020 20:48

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 02:09

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Shoehead posted:

Nah my brother was there. Half my drat family were out

Wow, I am also the unhappy possessor of a dimwit brother who climbed Bray Head yesterday! He's also staying in the family home with our parents, one of whom is supposed to be cocooned! He hasn't even the excuse of being a dumb teenager

# ¿ Apr 12, 2020 09:05

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Today's fun quarantine challenge appears to be "Find the Bottleneck" - you play by finding the only unavoidable narrow space for miles around and then stand there having a nice aul chat with your friends right across the width of it.

:argh:

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 11:26

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

irlZaphod posted:

It's scary how many people have no cop-on or seemingly just don't give a poo poo.

Stupid seems to be running amok throughout my family - my 76 year old father is is a giant sulk because no-one is keen on going to the multiple specific shops he prefers to get the oh so special bread and clementines he wants. He's actually threatening to go himself if no one else is willing to go.

I have repeatedly offered to get the equivalents in the supermarket as part of one large household shop, as recommended by the HSE but that's not good enough. It's just a loving loaf of bland sourdough but it's HIS BREAD
He's behaving as though the whole pandemic thing is something I made up to inconvenience him.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2020 11:57

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

happyhippy posted:

My mother was like this at the start.
Shes in her 70s and all her life has been that stereotype irish mother shopper where she would go around 30 shops for 5 hours while not buying anything, only to return to the first shop to get the first item she looked at.
She lives with my brother and he's been telling me she was wrecking his head with 'Sure the virus wont be in Argos or Aldi. Ill wear my wool gloves. Ill be only 5 minutes.' 5 minutes mum time is 2 hour real time usually.
Then the stories started about how you will die alone and buried with no fanfare, she has wised upto not going out.

that would be the tactic of very last resort -if I told him that he'd probably turn it around like I was hoping that he'd catch it and end up dying all alone. He can be extraordinarily passive-aggressive.

Anyway, I went to lidl and got a fairly big shop including a fancy bakery loaf, so hopefully that'll satisfy him for the time being. Ty for sharing, it's a weird relief to hear about other people's infuriating families :unsmith:

I heard that mary-lou wasn't feeling too bad so I though that might be why her test wasn't as urgent as it might otherwise have been, but apparently she ended up with pleurisy?

# ¿ Apr 14, 2020 14:11

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Shoehead posted:

There's your problem

e: poo poo I'm just remembering how loving overcrowded my secondary school was. Like student to teacher was in the 30s but we also had an issue were the corridors in the building were genuinly not big enough to walk 4 abreast down. Which was a huge issue because every classroom was locked when not in use so between classes you would have a whole class lined up beside a door on either side and two directions of traffic in between and whatever messing was going on thrown in there too while about 500 kids tried to get wherever. Throwing a possibly fatal respiratory virus into that situation is going to be hosed up

My school came up with a really tiresome, roundabout one-way system after one of the (non-teaching) nuns staged a very weird silent protest by walking up and down one of the corridors with a homemade stop sign. It was extremely weird because a. it just made people more likely to be late because they had to traipse halfway around the building to get two doors up a corridor, and b. who the hell was this woman and why did she even care??? It was a smallish school, containing a small resident community of nuns and I don't remember ever even seeing her before her one nun protest.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2020 16:59

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Just saw Gemtrails' crew have arrived in the carpark at the north end of Bray seafront, presumably to prep for her mass protest of at least 6 people at the garda station today. No sign of the woman herself, and John Waters appears to be attending in poster form only.

edit: oh my god, their posters are hilariously inept

This protest has been advertised for the last week and they are handwriting slogans on the back of JW old election posters in sharpie, in the car-park. Made the classic mistake of not sizing your lettering to the space so it's all END POLICE OPPR_ession

Aha, they tried to make the slogan more visible by going over it a few times in pen and now the ink's all run and 'police' is unreadable.

These people are such chumps.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Sep 5, 2020

# ¿ Sep 5, 2020 13:22

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

http://arethebritsatitagain.com/

# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 08:27

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

cormac posted:

In what I'm sure will be a massive surprise to everyone, the leaving cert calculated grades system is hosed

From RTE :

The only way I can see how that could have been allowed to happen is if the system wasnt tested properly, working out a few random sets of results manually and comparing to what the algorithm threw up surely would have cought that very quickly?

Having worked for a good few years in software testing, this is a failure in testing at the most fundamental level. From what I've been reading, two of the absolutely basic parameters were completely incorrect. Any halfway competent level of testing should have caught this, it's just mindboggling bad.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2020 09:41

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Marenghi posted:

Leo really tore into NPHET on Claire Byrne live last night.

Seems like the government is a shambles behind the scenes. Leo saying NPHET disagree with HSE and government. Called the CMO as not thinking things through.

And then Donnelly contradicting Leo by saying there�s no animosity between gov and NPHET.

I think this will come back to bite them in a few weeks times.

It seems that the NPHET was in regular communication with the cabinet on Sunday, and informed them immediately after the meeting that they were recommending going to Level 5, so all the posturing about being blindsided by the leak were just that, posturing. I wouldn't be surprised if megabrain Donnelly leaked it himself to gauge public reaction, and when it was overwhelmingly negative they could all jump out to condemn NPHET and courageously rescue the Irish People from their cruel cruel ways.

edit: When Donnelly did his high-speed conversion from SocDem to Independent to loving Fianna Fail, I remember saying that he was either a massive hypocrite with no ethical standards or an insane egotist who genuinely believed he could single-handedly reform FF.

Looks like he might be both! (And also a moron!)

Pookah fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Oct 8, 2020

# ¿ Oct 8, 2020 09:25

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Isn't Stephen Donnelly's area of interest and 'expertise' (lol) business and finance?
That would explain why everything's goning to poo poo at the moment - he's probably operating as Minister for Health from the perspective of protecting business, not people. Plus he's a preening gobshite, which wouldn't help.

quote:

Interviews with over a dozen ministers, TDs and officials, many of whom spoke on condition of anonymity, paint a picture of a Health Minister who is overly sensitive to criticism, lacking in empathy, and whose condescending approach has alienated and annoyed party and Coalition colleagues, Department officials and Opposition TDs.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/concerns-about-performance-of-stephen-donnelly-go-far-beyond-the-past-week-39608870.html

fake edit: Looks like Level 5's a comin' back. Two weeks after they said no way. This government is staggering from one disastrous misjudgement to the next

# ¿ Oct 16, 2020 11:49

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Blut posted:

This is paywalled, any chance you can post the article?

You should be able to get at it here: https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/sunday-independent-ireland/20201011/281599537967395
If not, I'll screenshot + post it

(Also I just looked at his wikipedia page and wouldn't you know it, he's a bloody engineer - AKA the dicipline notorious for producing people who think that because they are experts in one thing, they are automatically experts in everything)

edit: actually it's much easier to grab it from that site than I thought!

quote:

Concerns about Minister Stephen Donnelly run deep

Sunday Independent (Ireland)11 Oct 2020Hugh O�Connell

Concerns about the performance of the Health Minister go far beyond the events of the past week, writes Hugh O�Connell

AT 5.59pm last Wednesday, five minutes after news of five new Covid deaths and 611 new cases were announced, Stephen Donnelly tweeted a video of his achievements in his first 100 days as Health Minister. �He�s only getting started,� the narrator concluded. After three months in Miesian Plaza, the verdict from colleagues across Government and in Leinster House is not as positive.

Interviews with over a dozen ministers, TDs and officials, many of whom spoke on condition of anonymity, paint a picture of a Health Minister who is overly sensitive to criticism, lacking in empathy, and whose condescending approach has alienated and annoyed party and Coalition colleagues, Department officials and Opposition TDs.

The minister�s difficulties were exacerbated last week when the CMO, Dr Tony Holohan, revealed he had kept Donnelly informed of concerns about the rising number of Covid-19 cases last weekend. Donnelly has become so embattled that on Thursday � 103 days into the coalition�s existence � Taoiseach Miche�l Martin had to state full confidence in his Health Minister. This came hours before Donnelly was before the D�il answering questions about his conversations with the CMO last weekend.

SHORTCOMINGS

The concerns about Donnelly go beyond last week�s events or media outings that have attracted ridicule. Donnelly�s Twitter video � paid for by Fianna F�il and posted, it is understood, without the minister�s knowledge � may have been about lauding his achievements, but it also inadvertently highlighted shortcomings. The declaration that he had brought in legislation to extend free GP care for all school children neglected to mention that plans to extend the measure to under-8s have been indefinitely delayed.

So concerned was T�naiste Leo Varadkar about this that he raised it at Cabinet last month, prompting an uneasy exchange with Donnelly over whether or not funding was already set aside for the measure. Meanwhile, children under eight will be waiting until at least next year.

The video also boasted of having increased access to medical cards for over-70s, but it didn�t say this was supposed to happen in July � but didn�t, because Donnelly didn�t sign the regulations. The escalating cost of Covid was blamed, but with pressure mounting from Fianna F�il TDs last month, it is now being implemented from next month. �I worked for about two months to get that memo to Cabinet,� Donnelly told the Sunday Independent yesterday afternoon. �It was a good news story this week.�

But in announcing it, Donnelly managed to alienate one of his own junior ministers, sources said. Having been inundated with queries in recent weeks, Minister of State for Older People Mary Butler lobbied hard to advance the measure, which benefits around 56,000 over-70s. But Donnelly made no reference to his colleague when he announced it on Tuesday.

�His video is all about him, all he did. There are three other juniors in his department� She [Butler] worked hard on the medical card bit of it and it was totally overshadowed,� said a Fianna F�il minister.

Insiders say relations between Butler and Donnelly are strained. Butler, her allies say, felt excluded from the deliberations leading up to the launch of a report on Covid-19 in nursing homes on August 20.

Last month, while Donnelly was restricting his movements at home in Wicklow following his high-profile Covid scare, Butler represented him at the HSE�s Winter Plan launch and frequently takes commencement matters on his behalf in the Seanad. But there is little thanks or communication from the senior minister. �She has a huge amount of knowledge and was Opposition spokesperson on older people for four years,� said one source. �She could be included more and it�s not happening� Mary is totally frustrated by that.�

Butler did not respond to calls this weekend. Donnelly would not comment on the matter yesterday. His spokesperson said he meets regularly with junior ministers and �he does not intend to respond to anonymous sources or hearsay�.

Frustration with Donnelly is felt across Fianna F�il. Three parliamentary party members separately identified a lack of �bedside manner�.

�Stephen is incredibly intelligent and very bright but lacks emotional intelligence at times. He lacks bedside manner,� said one.

Another, who is a junior minister, said: �He�s kind of an academic in his demeanour, he�d be a perfect member of Nphet � but he�s not a normal politician.�

Others are more scathing. �He has had a few nasty exchanges with backbenchers and he doesn�t hold them in much esteem,� said one TD. �I have found him to be extremely condescending.�

In response to this and other criticism, Donnelly�s spokesperson said: �The Minister does not intend to respond to anonymous sources.�

When Labour TD Duncan Smith referred to the events of last weekend as an �absolute calamity� in the D�il on Thursday, Donnelly told him to be careful with words. �The way he commented on my use of language was patronising and an attempt to distract from the substance of the issue,� Smith later said.

Smith�s colleague Aodh�n � R�orda�n recalled a recent conversation with Donnelly about drugs policy that left him �disappointed about his lack of knowledge� on the issue. �I didn�t get the sense that he was going to take a risk on it,� the Labour TD said.

CRITICISM

Some Fianna F�il backbenchers have a more positive view of Donnelly, saying he is approachable and responsive to constituency queries. But, there is also a view that Donnelly is overly sensitive to criticism in the media. Late one night in August, Senator Malcolm Byrne took a call from an unhappy Donnelly who wanted him to delete a tweet he had posted stating that up to 50 people were, at that point in time, allowed at some indoor cultural events. The Minister claimed the tweet was incorrect.

But Byrne, who had been inundated with queries from the sector that day, explained to Donnelly that he had gotten clarity from the Department of Arts as well as the Taoiseach�s senior aides. Not only that, shortly before Donnelly rang, Byrne had spoken to Miche�l Martin directly.

The Minister, who had earlier publicly � and incorrectly � stated that only six people were allowed at such events, was the following day forced to back down. Donnelly�s allies say he took the hit for a mistake by the Department of Arts.

In another incident, Donnelly rang party colleague James Lawless after the Kildare North TD made a brief appearance on RTɒs Six One News discussing the end of the Kildare lockdown. Lawless had suggested changes in how future local lockdowns are administered, but Donnelly told him �Jesus, that was not helpful�. Colleagues say Lawless was and still is furious about the call, believing he had managed much of the local fallout for Fianna F�il from the Kildare lockdown. Donnelly�s recollection of the phone call is that it was a positive one.

In the Department of Health, senior officials do not hold Donnelly in high regard. Some have complained privately that he is rude, speaks at them and doesn�t listen. �He rubs people up the wrong way, he has a particular way of superiority,� said one Department source. �The officials would like to feel they are listened to and not spoken to.�

Others working in the Department say significant staffing changes have been made on the sixth floor, where Donnelly is based. �He wasn�t happy with what�s around him,� a second source said.

In the last two weeks, Donnelly�s private secretary � a gatekeeper of a minister�s diary and correspondence � was replaced. Two sources said Donnelly didn�t speak to the individual before they were moved elsewhere in the Department � though this is disputed by others. �There was a compatibility issue,� the one source said. �It was the talk of the place.� A spokesperson for Donnelly said: �The Minister has no role in staffing or in HR at the Department for Health. That is a matter for the civil service.�

Some in Fianna F�il believe Donnelly could be a transformative Health Minister if given the chance, pointing to his commitment to implementing Sl�intecare and the unprecedented �600m he secured for the HSE winter plan. All that is more challenging in a pandemic.

Donnelly�s government colleagues are concerned he did not sound alarm bells once the returning CMO texted him last Saturday to say he was calling an emergency Nphet meeting to discuss rising case numbers. �It does suggest at best a hands-off approach,� a Cabinet source said. �If Miche�l was alerted to the importance of the meeting... he would have been in the car from Cork to Dublin.�

Donnelly�s spokesperson said: �Of course the minister and his senior government colleagues appreciate the gravity of Covid. They are managing the impact every day. The health minister, the Taoiseach and the T�naiste were all aware on Saturday that a meeting of Nphet had been called for the following day. On Sunday, ahead of the Nphet meeting, the CMO advised the Minister that Level 4 might be considered. The Minister immediately informed the Taoiseach. The T�naiste�s office was also informed.�

The Minister�s spokesperson further added: �For the avoidance of doubt, the Minister would like to make it clear that he has no intention of trying to muzzle Nphet. Nphet is an advisory body and it is important that Nphet is allowed to do its job without political interference.�

They also said that Donnelly believes whoever leaked Nphet�s Level 5 recommendation last weekend �showed blatant disregard for public health�. Dr Holohan expressed a not dissimilar view on Wednesday.

DIVISIONS

Donnelly and Holohan must now establish a strong working relationship to avoid the sort of damaging divisions that emerged this week. This will be more difficult as public health�s rising concern about the virus clashes with government fears about the societal and economic impacts of lockdown. Communication is key, according to one official involved in the early response to the pandemic. Back then, the official explained, the

CMO �briefed before and after every Nphet meeting�. They added: �You knew what the craic was and you could socialise it with Taoiseach�s and then he�d [Holohan] come with the proposals after every one and it all kicked in from there. Where Stephen and Co seem to be in trouble is that they get the recommendations and next thing it is at Cabinet.�

One example of this was when Donnelly brought proposals to Cabinet in late August to make it a criminal offence to have more than six people in a person�s home. The move stunned ministers and officials, with one saying it was �utterly bizarre� that the proposal had not received prior approval from the Taoiseach�s office. Justice Minister Helen McEntee later told journalists they were �extreme� after the Cabinet had vetoed them. Donnelly�s spokesperson said the regulations were drawn up in conjunction with the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel to the Government after a Government decision in early August on foot of Nphet advice.

Questions are also being asked at a senior Government level as to why Donnelly has still not ensured deals are in place with private hospitals for extra capacity in the event of a second surge. The previous takeover in the spring lapsed in June. The Department of Health said: �The HSE is currently in negotiations with private hospitals regarding the provision of capacity in the event of a second surge.� However, a source in the private hospital sector said there was no contact on the issue for eight weeks. �If this thing goes south in the next few weeks, people are going to be asking: �Where�s the deal with the private hospitals,�� a government source said.

There is some sympathy for Donnelly. �I think he�s probably more academic, he means well but he doesn�t realise what a treacherous swamp Health is,� said one Fine Gael TD privately. �The Minister for Health carries the s*** for everything. I haunt him with PQs, but it�s a difficult job. I don�t dislike him.�

But the desire for him to succeed comes with a warning. Fine Gael TD Colm Burke said: �Every contract you�re offered has a six-month probationary period � he has another three months. I don�t need to be driving division now � come back to me in three months� time. I might have a different view.�

�I found him to be extremely condescending�

�It does suggest at best a handsoff approach�

Pookah fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Oct 16, 2020

# ¿ Oct 16, 2020 13:14

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Blut posted:

Interesting, thanks for that.

It sounds like a lot of the sources are rumblings from within FF. I can't blame him for being condescending towards FF backbenchers. I doubt most intelligent people would have much time for dealing with the rural/conservative/corrupt/stupid TDs that make up most of the FF backbench.

No question they are morons, but he actively chose to join their party, so either he thinks the party is fine and good as it is, or he thinks he can almost single-handedly reform and reshape FF from within. Neither option suggests good judgement on his part. Politicians have to be tacticians, they have to be able to work with people , even if they privately think they are idiots, and Donnelly seems to rub a great many people up the wrong way, even those who should reasonably be expected to be his allies.

I know, I'm biased because that ratfucker effectively tricked me into voting for FF, but he really does appear to me to be one of those guys who radiate confidence so strongly that they trick those around them into accepting them at their own extremely inflated self-evaluation.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2020 18:16

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

When I was still half asleep this morning, I had an amazing revelation, that the deciding factor in whether or not a county is doing badly with covid spread is if they are any good at GAA. Wicklow ought to be bad because it's so close to Dublin, but the 14 day rate is the second lowest in the county.

Why? Because we are absolutely shite at GAA games, we never win anything = no big parties to celebrate.

Unfortunately for my theory, Kilkenny is also doing pretty well and I believe they are quite good at hurling.

# ¿ Oct 17, 2020 15:00

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

kustomkarkommando posted:

This is actually a talking point up North where blaming the GAA for spreading covid is popular with a uh certain class of commentators.

We just had Poots from the DUP on the radio yesterday saying how unfair province wide restrictions are because the rate is only really high in nationalist constuencies because of all that GAA and disregard for good god fearing law and order

Ah that's just the usual sectarian bollocks isn't it. I'm really just joking, but it is odd that Wicklow is so low when other Dublin adjacent counties are getting hammered. The daily cases and positivity rate in the North suggest it's just running rampant there at the moment, it's very scary

# ¿ Oct 17, 2020 15:12

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Pookah posted:

When I was still half asleep this morning, I had an amazing revelation, that the deciding factor in whether or not a county is doing badly with covid spread is if they are any good at GAA. Wicklow ought to be bad because it's so close to Dublin, but the 14 day rate is the second lowest in the county.

Why? Because we are absolutely shite at GAA games, we never win anything = no big parties to celebrate.

Unfortunately for my theory, Kilkenny is also doing pretty well and I believe they are quite good at hurling.

My dumb theory is actually looking somewhat correct. Wexford just had a sudden crazy spike and looking at local message board discussions, the hub was a 12 hour lock in in a pub in Castletown after some trivial local gaa win.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2020 18:23

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Shoehead posted:

They went to all the trouble of clearly defining what each level means, we even got that big fold out they sent us the other week there and from day 1 they've never actually gone to each level as written. It's impressive.

(of course it works out for me this time)

Its LEVEL 5¹ *

¹See appendices 2-7 for exemptions
* except when otherwise notified

I have no real clue as to what is or isn't allowed tbh.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Oct 20, 2020

# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 08:23

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Guavanaut posted:

Maash/mung beans are the pro-tier childhood window vegetation.

My primary school had beansprouts just randomly growing all around the unpaved parts of the playground. Child me decided that this was because so many of the kids were the children of ex-hippies so their lunchboxes were just absolutely packed with beansprouts. It was an awesome school btw.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 12:42

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Arquinsiel posted:

The funny thing is, we're already seeing results because people realised the government was poo poo and started voluntarily locking themselves down weeks ago.

Yep, and because the approximately 10% of the population who are all No to Masks/My Freedom/Open Everything, are really easy to spot in the wild, the rest of us can just stay the hell away from them*. I decided months ago that if I encounter someone who's being careless right now, they are probably careless all the time and are basically Typhoid Mary.

I stay 20 or more feet away from the Typhoid Marys.

*Apart from retail workers who are goddamn saints and should get a massive tax free bonus for doing what they do.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2020 19:14

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Shoehead posted:

I've honestly left a few shops because there were people in with no masks or it was packed out, nothing I've needed for the past year has been too important to deal with it (or the places doing things I really need have been really good about it), which I'm pretty thankful for. Or maybe I'm just not as pig headed as the people around me??

We got to have the wedding btw, the venue were really good to us and spaced everything out, there was like 3m between each table, and the tables were massive so we all had a heap of room to sit and eat. We threw the rest of the family in a google meeting and they all watched the ceremony on their tellys

Congratulations!

Most supermarkets around here are pretty good about maintaining safe numbers/having sanitizer to hand. The only exception is Lidl - no door management, and the spray to clean your basket handle is a bloody anti-bacterial one, so entirely useless.

VVV Same here. I try to get my supermarket shopping done by midday so's to get done before any of the schools get out, since there's at least a possibility the virus can hang in the air for a while. VVV

Pookah fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Nov 3, 2020

# ¿ Nov 3, 2020 12:29

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

I like the Matt leBlanc Irish da stuff very much too. Someone said on Twitter that there are so many Americans claiming to be Irish because they have some degree of Irish ancestry, but that there's a subset of this which is Irish people claiming people as clearly Irish despite them having no actual Irish heritage.

I agree, MLeB is very clearly a mellow aul lad whose just wanting to know what you've been up to since you moved to the Big Schmoke.

# ¿ May 30, 2021 19:16

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

I got to register for dose 1 a couple of days ago and you know I was there at 5 a.m. and have been hitting :f5:

a lot ever since. Depending on where you are, turnaround can be very quick. Cork City seems to be the place to be for the fastest dosing. I've seen multiple people reporting that they registered on say, Wednesday this week and got their appointment for this Saturday.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2021 09:10

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Pookah posted:

I got to register for dose 1 a couple of days ago and you know I was there at 5 a.m. and have been hitting a lot ever since. Depending on where you are, turnaround can be very quick. Cork City seems to be the place to be for the fastest dosing. I've seen multiple people reporting that they registered on say, Wednesday this week and got their appointment for this Saturday.

Little update: I registered on 02/06, I got the update on 07/06 and my appointment is for 10/06 at Shoreline in Greystones - so the turnaround is pretty speedy in Bray too

# ¿ Jun 8, 2021 09:35

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Shoehead posted:

How are you registering?

Via the HSE portal - https://vaccine3.hse.ie/s/login/SelfRegister

It's still on 40+ but it'll hopefully move to 35+ in the next week or so - it seems to take a couple of weeks after each age group opens up for the next to open. Also, Ive heard online that getting the update texts can be a bit hit or miss so once you get registered, it's a good idea to log back in every day to check for updates.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jun 8, 2021

# ¿ Jun 8, 2021 14:53

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Shoehead posted:

GD I'm only 33, hurry up HSE

(I will keep that link handy though, thanks)

No problem, hope it keeps moving on p. quickly. There's some comfort in knowing the vast, vast majority of people 50+ are at least partly vaccinated are are hopefully less likely to be able to spread covid :unsmith:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2021 07:17

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

I was googling the mica thing and apparently the 'guideline' is less than 1% mica is acceptable and some of the companies were producing blocks that were 58 loving % mica but its actually ok because there weren't regulations in place to make that absolutely illegal soo how could they have known it wasn't ok???

Shady lovely cheap lil shitbags.

I don't want to be mean about Donegal, but lads, you gotta stop being so contrary and align with the law of the rest of the country, even of it means not driving drunk all the time, or openly hating gay people
.
Yis aren't Roscommon, like.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2021 18:46

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

FYI my 37 year old brother just got his 1st dose appointment today - 3rd of July in Greystones. :unsmith:

# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 14:51

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

It's the stupidest loving thing. Of course the attitude of the NPHET is going to be medical stuff.
It's the role of government to balance the medical input with business-specific inputs and come up with a coherent plan.

But it is so much easier to ask doctors what to do in a medical emergency, and then blame them for being cautious and affecting commercial entities.
If you want to protect commerce, make decisions, don't outsource everything to doctors because they will do the job of loving doctors.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 22:18

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Apparently the one year per day registration was never anything but a suggestion to try to prevent everyone in each 5 year batch trying to register on the first morning and possibly crashing the portal.
Just got my second pfizer dose yesterday in Greystones, 26 days after the first - I'm very tired and my arm hurts but on the whole, I feel awesome :unsmith:

# ¿ Jul 7, 2021 08:29

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

I was in UCD when Ryan Tubridy's shitstain brother was student union head (Garret Tubridy), There was a shocking amount of toilet door gossip in the ladies toilets about how poo poo he was in bed, and then he decided to become a city banker in and around the time of the global crash.

lol.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2021 19:47

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Just in case you all aren't already aware, but there's a Facebook group (Alerting parents of outbreaks in schools "Ireland ") who have been collating notices sent out from schools to parents. They only post when they have 100% official info, so despite efforts to discredit them over the last 18 months, I don't think they ever been shown to have posted bad info.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 18:48

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Here you go:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/600905740607906
They have a google docs thing collating all the known cases this school year:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...#gid=1174248515
and it is startling and encouraging to see the effect the vaccines have had. Last year, there were similar rates in primary and secondary, but this year, primary is about 5 times higher. The 2 differences in that secondary are vaccinated, and they wear masks.

edit: I've been following the group since early on and have never seen any evidence of scaremongering or attention-seeking. They genuinely seem to be a group of decent people who just want parents to have accurate information about covid in their kids schools so they can make informed choices.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 22, 2021

# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 20:37

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Thanks for sharing.

Not at all, I'm not a parent myself, but I live with vulnerable people, so I like to know if i'm likely to meet infectious people at the supermarket. People are weirdly fine with bringing maskless, symptomatic children to the shops. lil Johnny coughing his guts up really needs to go to aldi today or his social development will be stunted :cry:

# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 20:52

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Not having a go but a lot of the time there's not much of a choice between getting your messages in or staying home with a sick kid and getting them to wear anything let alone masks is not easy. Especially with younger ones and it's exponentially worse the more of them you have.

Oh god, I'm not judging parents who have to just do their best when it comes to shopping with the kids. I get pissed off with 2 parent families where the ma is masked, the da is not and all the coughing kids aren't either. It sounds like a fake situation but I've seen it several times.
Like, let your shitbird husband stay outside with your symptomatic child, its not loving hard.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 21:56

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

I was just looking back at the number of cases in primary/secondary thing time last year (from the FB group) and the difference this is staggering

early december 2020

Last two weeks

Before delta+vaccines, they were roughly the same, now the case numbers in the unvaccinated, unmasked primary kids are well over 6 times that of the secondary school students. Given that the very young kids are more likely to be asymptomatic, the ratio is probably even higher.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 11:05

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

It's when you say you're gonna shed the Christmas bloat by getting out out for a jog every day.
You see it everywhere here for about 10 days in January.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 08:26

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Just a general FYI but yesterday my brother (mid30's no underlying conditions) got a text from the doctor's surgery asking him to register for a booster dose to be administered tomorrow.
I'm a few years older, registered same surgery got no text. I registered anyway, and this morning we both got calls to come and get boosted tomorrow morning!

So if you're registered with a surgery, have a look at their website and see if they doing boosters at the moment, you never know

edit: oops, meant to put this in the general Ireland thread, oh well.

Pookah fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Dec 17, 2021

# ¿ Dec 17, 2021 13:04

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

Me (early 40s) and my late 30's bro got treble vaccinated today and going by what I saw hanging around the surgery for about 10 minutes, there is a very big enthusiasm for getting boosted right now. The people i saw coming in to get a booster were late 20s to middle 40s and there were a lot of them.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2021 20:28

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

kustomkarkommando posted:

Just back from getting booster in Derry and the big vaccination centre was practically empty, in and out in about 5 minutes. Not sure if there's just low walk-in volume cause people think it will be packed out because the appointments are all gone, or just because Sunday lunchtime isn't exactly peak hours.

Up North we just extended the walk-in system to anyone over the age of 18 as well as of like lunchtime today.

The big walk-in centres are all completely swamped round here; if I hadn't gotten lucky with being registered at a surgery that apparently has bucketloads of spare booster doses, I'd almost certainly be out standing in the cold for 3+ hours at the MVC nearest to me. At the doctors, I was literally in and out in under 5 minutes, it was wonderful

# ¿ Dec 19, 2021 18:13

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 02:09

Pookah: Aug 21, 2008; 🪶Caw🪶

FYI s all use, I bought some ffp2s from arco safety for stupid small money. I got paranoid that they had to be junk because they were so cheap (20 masks for 6ish euro) but its an established company and I just used one of the masks in public and the seal was excellent.
So, if you like the look, buy the arco safety ffps 20 mask box set for 5-6 euro

# ¿ Jan 5, 2022 21:04

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