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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

One of my work friends kind of off-handedly mentioned her partner was sick earlier this week. Didn't think much off it because she just said he was throwing up all night. Today at lunch she told us he had "flu like symptoms". When pressed she revealed he had been off work all week with this, and his office had been told he was self-isolating.

We managed to convince her to go home but the damage is (likely) already done and I'm fully prepared to not be in the office next week. This is someone who has been obsessively following the news, keeping up to date with everything, constantly talking about the symptoms. And she... just decided it didn't apply to her, I guess.

This is going to get real bad, real quick. I think the government wants that to happen. A quick short burst on the NHS is easier to explain. We're in a pandemic. There's not enough beds. We couldn't do anything. A longer, more drawn out period would highlight the underfunding of the NHS. They don't want that. Who cares if it sacrifices the olds and poors.

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EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1238611490921484295

Okay now I'm going to get Covid and go directly to the home counties and just run around mad like it's a game of plague tag.

This isn't a surprise, because the government's strategy is basically to do nothing, which has a limited negative impact on people's lives. If the government were closing schools you'd have more parents complaining that they had to take time off work for childcare and why don't the government just do something because my kid isn't sick. If the government were enforcing quarantines you'd have more people complaining that they need to go to town x and they have to go today and their elderly parents can't even get to the shop and why don't the government just do something etc. etc.

They're taking the path of least resistance which means people are kind of okay with it all (until those numbers jump up and start having a wider affect).

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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quote:

Andy Carter, a Conservative, asks for an assurance that the government will do all it can to save lives.

Yes, says Johnson.

I'm glad Mr Carter braved the virus to ask this vital question

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Are takeaways counted a restaurants? My girlfriend's family run one and are completely shut off from the news...

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I can't see that on the news anywhere (though train guard friend did say he thought it would happen this week). Have you got a link?

The Guardian just put it on their live feed.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Yeah I just nipped to my local big Sainsbury's and stock seemed to be returning to normal. Plenty of milk and bread, still a bit of cleaning products left. Can't say I looked for bog roll because we already had a stash (there's only 2 of us so we always buy more than we need) but the food aisles seemed more stocked than they have been.

One thing I have noticed is that there's always been plenty of ready meals. I know they're not the most healthy of options (and more expensive) but I'm surprised the middle class panic buyers aren't stockpiling those like some pseudo-MRE. I've been grabbing a couple every time I go out because I might as well eat that rather than make my own while fresh meat is low.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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kecske posted:

the BBC news ticker is saying Raab is the Designated Survivor. Is this actually a real thing that we do or is some parliament big brain at home on isolation watching Kiefer Sutherland on Netflix and said "hmm now theres an idea"

He's the first Secretary of State so would be the usual cover for the Prime Minister (as Deputy PM isn't a real position).

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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namesake posted:

You need to lock stuff down without warning or else it's all the surrounding areas and holiday parks which then suffer the wave of transmission.

That said they've really hosed this up (again) if they go into lock down now - a weekend of spreading in pubs on friday, parks over the weekend and work on Monday and THEN they decide to clamp down.

I've been going along with the assumption that the government really, really, doesn't want to be seen as inconveniencing anyone. They only closed the pubs after getting pressure from Scotland/the NHS (and even then didn't really close them, until there was news reports saying the pubs were full on Friday night). They haven't put in a full lockdown until loads of people were absolute idiots over the weekend and the media criticised the public. At no point has the government taken the load and acted before they "had" to. They're using the media (and their own briefings to the media) to make all their actions look like they've been forced to do it. If only the public had all been 100% rational actors and voluntarily self isolated for two months at the same time we'd be fine!

This is why the public are approving of the government. They're merely waiting until the last moment and doing the bare minimum.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

My kitchen light died tonight. I need to go to B&Q tomorrow to get a new one. gently caress knows if it's going to be open.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Our local DIY store which had announced extra long opening hours just this weekend (presumably on the assumption all these folk suddenly shut in would be doing tons of DIY) just posted a message saying they're closing for the duration. I was wondering, so many injuries need hospital attention are caused by DIYers, unnecessary strain on the NHS.

Maybe you can get a light in a supermarket? Or is it one of those fluorescent tube jobs?

Yeah it's a fluorescent tube, old style.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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learnincurve posted:

Hardware stores are on the will be open list. You might find all the staff go gently caress that and don’t turn up though

Yeah I'll give it a go tomorrow on my One Official Trip Outside, if not try and get it off amazon or something.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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CancerCakes posted:

Plenty of idiots will say that he did well under the circumstances, how could he have known how bad things would get, ignoring the fact that Spain and Italy exist

Things people will say when this is all over:

"Oh but Boris only did a lockdown because the PUBLIC couldn't follow the guidance" (ignoring that the guidance was ridiculously vague, had no penalty, people have been telling them that unless you're an old you're not at risk) (and then the lockdown itself is full of loopholes and can be get around by anyone who's not a moron, and there's nowhere near enough police to enforce it, and there's nowhere near enough army to support them).

He's doing just enough to keep the public on his side. Tories will come out of this with a much bigger support (particularly when things like UBI and nationalisation are proven to work well).

On the plus side, my former workplace (insurance company) has FINALLY told people not to come in. My brother is the IT Risk Manager there, can do all of his work from home, and was expressly told he had to be in every day. They've been rolling out laptops but nowhere near quick enough. Hopefully that'll protect him and my friends.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

For what it's worth I took my allocated outside time to Tesco this morning and there was plenty of everything. Managed to get mince (not seen for many weeks) and bread with no issues. There might have just been a delivery though.

feedmegin posted:

You know...I'm actually glad (sort of) we lost the election, now. Can you imagine the shitstorm we'd have right now, and for years to come, from all the usual suspects if this was happening under a Labour government? Just like 'Gordon Brown spent all the poonds' after the global financial crisis but times a million. People would associate socialism with mass deaths for a generation.

We might have dodged a bullet, there.

I've said this a few times now but unless things go very very wrong very very quickly the Tories (Boris in particular) are coming out of this smelling like roses. They've been "forced" into every decision and Johnson gets to look all statesmanlike every day.

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EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

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For people wondering why the government have got such high approval ratings, this is why. They have preplanned "press conferences" that are broadcast across the nation in prime time where they state that the situation is currently X. The media hacks then go off and find out that, actually, the situation is Y, and this is the bad situation. But the 6 oclock news has already happened, most people don't spend their time reading random journalists's twitter accounts, and by the time the morning news comes around they're too busy doing fluff pieces about the NHS.

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