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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

StarkingBarfish posted:

Just moved in to my new place and trying to work out what Internet looks like in the UK for the first time in a decade. Are Andrews & Arnold still the recommended isp for good tech support, and least likely to shop you for downloading Linux isos? Anyone with a similar rep but less spendy?

A&A are amazing. Zen Internet are the other top tier, non-mass market ISP that are recommended, you won't go far wrong with either.

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Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
There are some really worrying noises coming out of the government that they're going to let this run rife "to build herd immunity" rather than actually, you know, do anything.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1238038497052762113

Herd immunity is great, but the way to achieve that is via vaccinations, not by letting literally everyone catch it, 3-6% of people drop dead, and then hope the survivors build a good enough immunity to stop it the next time round.

Fingers crossed something more concrete comes out the COBRA meeting, but I'm not holding my breath (because I won't be able to since my lungs will be riddled with COVID-19).

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
So the whole of the EU just closed to all but essential travel:

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1239568170152857607

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
Tories.txt

https://twitter.com/Pauline_Latham/status/1238903676934160384

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
Just been down the local greengrocers and have never seen it so busy. Tons of food (all fresh, mind) and they're offering to personally drop stuff directly at the door if needed.

Morrisons on the other hand reporting fights over produce - pallets for restocking the shelves literally being swamped and scavenged from as they're being pallet-trucked round from the storeroom. Resulted in everything going straight back into the storeroom and people having to do without.

Bonkers.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

Jose posted:

sounds like extremely tory measures by sunak lol
Went a lot further than I expected to be honest, but still all loans rather than bailouts, we're not banks after all so gotta make money out of it somehow.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
My wife's a teacher and has just been told all school holidays are cancelled and she can expect to have to cover shifts from 6am to 10pm looking after key worker children.

poo poo's really real right now.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

a pipe smoking dog posted:

My partner is in tears because despite saying schools would shut yesterday the list of children the govt has now provided means that the entire staff (including those who are vulnerable) will need to be in to meet safeguarding rules, while teachers are also expected to be providing e learning for those who have been sent home.
Don't forget that all holiday is cancelled and they're proposing hours are extended to 6am to 10pm. Oh and there were rumours earlier it might even have to go 24/7. Nobody knows for sure though because local authorities aren't getting clear instructions from central government so it's all being winged.

Has a clear list of key worker roles even been proposed yet? As of a couple of hours ago it certainly hadn't.

Turns out "schools shut" actually means "schools open much more than before".

Loonytoad Quack fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Mar 19, 2020

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
The list of key workers has been released and it's basically loving everyone. Schools are closed in only the absolute loosest definition of the word:

Guidance for schools, colleges and local authorities on maintaining educational provision posted:

If your work is critical to the COVID-19 response, or you work in one of the critical sectors listed below, and you cannot keep your child safe at home then your children will be prioritised for education provision:

Health and social care

This includes but is not limited to doctors, nurses, midwives, paramedics, social workers, care workers, and other frontline health and social care staff including volunteers; the support and specialist staff required to maintain the UK’s health and social care sector; those working as part of the health and social care supply chain, including producers and distributers of medicines and medical and personal protective equipment.

Education and childcare

This includes nursery and teaching staff, social workers and those specialist education professionals who must remain active during the COVID-19 response to deliver this approach.

Key public services

This includes those essential to the running of the justice system, religious staff, charities and workers delivering key frontline services, those responsible for the management of the deceased, and journalists and broadcasters who are providing public service broadcasting.

Local and national government

This only includes those administrative occupations essential to the effective delivery of the COVID-19 response or delivering essential public services such as the payment of benefits, including in government agencies and arms length bodies.

Food and other necessary goods

This includes those involved in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery as well as those essential to the provision of other key goods (for example hygienic and veterinary medicines).

Public safety and national security

This includes police and support staff, Ministry of Defence civilians, contractor and armed forces personnel (those critical to the delivery of key defence and national security outputs and essential to the response to the COVID-19 pandemic), fire and rescue service employees (including support staff), National Crime Agency staff, those maintaining border security, prison and probation staff and other national security roles, including those overseas.

Transport

This includes those who will keep the air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the COVID-19 response, including those working on transport systems through which supply chains pass.

Utilities, communication and financial services

This includes staff needed for essential financial services provision (including but not limited to workers in banks, building societies and financial market infrastructure), the oil, gas, electricity and water sectors (including sewerage), information technology and data infrastructure sector and primary industry supplies to continue during the COVID-19 response, as well as key staff working in the civil nuclear, chemicals, telecommunications (including but not limited to network operations, field engineering, call centre staff, IT and data infrastructure, 999 and 111 critical services), postal services and delivery, payments providers and waste disposal sectors.
How the gently caress are teachers meant to look after all these kids 6am to 10pm and still remotely teach the kids that are off?

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

Spangly A posted:

:shrug: her sister just lost a son this week and there obviously isn't going to be a funeral. The house had 4 guests, including us. I argued for ten minutes and realised that "We're not going" wasn't an option, so "I'm not going" was pointless and mean. Would you have acted differently?
I spent the weekend explaining to multiple family members (both mine and my wife's) why they shouldn't go and see various elderly relatives yesterday and had fallings out with several of them.

They didn't go in the end though so I'll take the fallout on the chin as the end result was worth it.

No way would I have gone to any kind of social thing yesterday, with any number of people, at risk or otherwise, regardless of how much aggro it would have caused. Lives are literally at risk here.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

communism bitch posted:

I'm offering blowjob to anybody who can get me a pack of mince and a couple of peppers. Food situation is not good here.
Our local greengrocers and butchers have plenty of everything still, with the added bonus that you don't have to fight through a hoard to get to everything, is that not an option for you anywhere nearby?

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
Primary school update from the other half: the entire school staff were in this morning since as of Friday afternoon, they had absolutely no idea how many kids they were expecting today. Based on the very broad definition of key worker, it could have been anything up to 75 (they normally have ~200).

In the end, just over 30 have turned up today and have been separated off into groups of 5 or 6 to ensure social distancing as far as possible. However, they've already had to isolate two with a cough who have subsequently been sent home. Quite why you'd think it appropriate to send your kid with symptoms to a school full of other kids of the country's most key workers is beyond me, but there we go.

It's looking like they will try to implement some sort of shift system so not all teachers are in all of the time, but at the moment they're still operating largely autonomously as the central advice is limited at best.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

MrNemo posted:

Apparently like 50% of cases of novel coronavirus have anosmia as a symptom and it persists for around 3 weeks after you've recovered. It is bloody distressing not being able to smell or taste anything. I can't enjoy coffee and tried a beer yesterday, all I could taste was some back back of the mouth bitterness. Hell the other day I had a couple of spoonfuls of Colman's English mustard with 0 effect.
I had 2 or 3 weeks of this back in December at the end of (what I assumed at the time was) a really nasty sinus infection and cough.

I know it's too early for it to have been coronavirus, but I've never had a total loss of smell and taste for anything like as long as I did then - it was notably weird and I commented about it to a lot of people at the time.

Between that and one of our project coordinators having the worst hacking cough I've ever heard in my life, which lasted about 8 weeks (she's in her early 20s) at the same sort of time, it's hard not to wonder if this has been around longer than we think.

Roll on the antibody test.

Loonytoad Quack fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Mar 24, 2020

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
I've decided this is the only news about coronavirus I'm going to believe for now:

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1242489840068894720
Especially because I had a horrible fever, cough and loss of taste/smell a couple of months back so it suits me fine to believe it.

Crisis over, everyone back to work.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
Well I guess this explains why the big drop-off in deaths yesterday, they've changed the way they're being reported (apparantly they now need family consent to report an anonymised, aggregated deaths number *cough*bollocks*cough*):
https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1243104190202818561

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
That lovely, racist eugenicist that got fired a while back seems to think the reason everyone is so confident NHS capacity won't be overrun all of a sudden, is because they aren't treating anyone over 65.

https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1243324691395366915?s=19

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

Angepain posted:

this guy's rap sheet is a wondrous showcase journey of the kind of thoughtful decorum he is begging us to show in this time



NB: these are just the ones that call-out racism, paedophilia, misogyny etc... I edited out a whole ton more which are probably just as bad. Thanks for telling us how to behave though!

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
181 deaths in the past 24 hours, gently caress me. :(

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I still feel like there's a big hole in these figures, which is how many of those positives are people in hospital (and how many are being released from hospital after recovery).
The other bit that worries me is the: "...of those hospitalised in the UK, 759 have sadly died." Which reads to me that anyone who dies outside of hospital, isn't recorded in the figures at all.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
260 deaths yesterday, this is getting really bad. 1019 total deaths now and we're still only in a soft lockdown.

https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1243901924786790400?s=19

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Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

Bardeh posted:

Just got informed I'm being put on furlough - last day's work tomorrow. I'm all for it tbh, I won't be getting as much money, but I'm not spending bugger all at the minute so it evens out. Money to sit at home and play nintendo sounds OK to me.

Just found out we're going to skeleton crew (80%+ of company on furlough) and the company will make up the difference between the government payout and full salary, which is incredibly bloody generous. No idea how long it can last as business has dived off a cliff, but shows not all companies are being arseholes.

Annoyingly I have to be one of the skeletons for now, but to be honest I think I'd go totally mad if I couldn't work at all so it's probably for the best.

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