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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



CNN is running around in circles cheering about their heir apparent zirconium joe, and how he has now totally crushed Bernie and all other Democratic primary contenders

I guess you gotta take your wins when you can get them because joe is about the worse possible candidate the Democratic party could put forward next to Mayo Pete

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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



bengy81 posted:

Isn't Joe still 10 delegates behind Bernie?

Don't tell CNN that

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://twitter.com/bradkjenkins/status/1234162165612937218?s=20

Someone who knows more than me tell me what happens with this now

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



The only way that Bernie comes out ahead in a brokered convention is if the people voting in the convention realize that there is no way to negotiate with the death cult that is the republican party and their trying to negotiate is what has been causing Democrats to get their teeth kicked in every time they try.

Won't happen because the :decorum: wing for some strange reason has a lot of power, even though :decorum: hasn't gotten democrats a loving thing since the 80s

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




Joe "Medium Generosity" "Zirconium" Biden

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




Cat avatar haver with a star.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



That Works posted:

Redfield has watched NOAA, EPA, USDA and others die on the vine. He's probably just trying to keep the lights on.

CDC has been underfunded for some time, same for most public health programs/agencies which is part of the problem.

https://twitter.com/LarryBoorstein/status/1236058364741914626?s=20

Nah, Redfield is a grade A bootlicker, who also has the same opinions on AIDS and homosexuality as Pence.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Stravag posted:

It's more just the chud portion of California being more vocal lately. Theres a cop on a discord who keeps referring to it as KKKalifornia and Kommiestania. Go figure hes a piece of poo poo right?

This in the GIP discord? Name and shame.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/tennessee-man-ordered-removed-germany-based-service-concentration-camp-guard-during-wwii

some parts of the justice system are still working, slowly.

quote:

A U.S. Immigration Judge in Memphis, Tennessee, has issued a removal order against a German citizen and Tennessee resident, on the basis of his service in Nazi Germany in 1945 as an armed guard of concentration camp prisoners in the Neuengamme Concentration Camp system (Neuengamme).

After a two-day trial, U.S. Immigration Judge Rebecca L. Holt issued an opinion finding Friedrich Karl Berger removable under the 1978 Holtzman Amendment to the Immigration and Nationality Act because his “willing service as an armed guard of prisoners at a concentration camp where persecution took place” constituted assistance in Nazi-sponsored persecution. The court found that Berger served at a Neuengamme sub-camp near Meppen, Germany, and that the prisoners there included “Jews, Poles, Russians, Danes, Dutch, Latvians, French, Italians, and political opponents” of the Nazis. The largest groups of prisoners were Russian, Dutch and Polish civilians.

Judge Holt found that Meppen prisoners were held during the winter of 1945 in “atrocious” conditions and were exploited for outdoor forced labor, working, as at other Nazi camps, “to the point of exhaustion and death.” The court further found, and Berger admitted, that he guarded prisoners to prevent them from escaping during their dawn-to-dusk workday, and on their way to the worksites and also on their way back to the subcamp in the evening.

At the end of March 1945, with the advance of British and Canadian forces, the Nazis abandoned Meppen. The court found that Berger helped guard the prisoners during their forcible evacuation to the Neuengamme main camp – a nearly two-week trip under inhumane conditions, which claimed the lives of some 70 prisoners. The decision also cited Berger’s admission that he never requested a transfer from concentration camp guard service and that he continues to receive a pension from Germany based on his employment in Germany, “including his wartime service.”

“Berger was part of the SS machinery of oppression that kept concentration camp prisoners in atrocious conditions of confinement,” said Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski of the Department of Justice’s Criminal Division. “This ruling shows the Department's continued commitment to obtaining a measure of justice, however late, for the victims of wartime Nazi persecution.”

“This case is but one example of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s commitment to ensuring that the United States will not serve as a safe haven for human rights violators and war criminals,” said Assistant Director David C. Shaw of U.S Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), National Security Investigations Division, who oversees the Human Rights Violators and War Crimes Center. “We will continue to pursue these types of cases so that justice may be served.”

In 1946, British occupation authorities in Germany charged SS Obersturmführer Hans Griem, who had headed the Meppen sub-camps, and other Meppen personnel with war crimes for “ill-treatment and murder of Allied nationals.” Although Griem escaped before trial, the British court tried and convicted the three remaining defendants of war crimes in 1947.

The removal case was jointly tried by Eli Rosenbaum, HRSP Director of Human Rights Enforcement and Policy, HRSP Senior Trial Attorney Susan Masling and ICE New Orleans, Office of the Principal Legal Advisor (Memphis), with assistance from HRSP Chief Historian Jeffrey S. Richter. The investigation was initiated by the HRSP and was conducted in partnership with HSI’s Nashville SAC office.

Since the 1979 inception of the Justice Department’s program to detect, investigate, and remove Nazi persecutors, it has won cases against 109 individuals. Over the past 30 years, the Justice Department has won more cases against persons who participated in Nazi persecution than have the law enforcement authorities of all the other countries in the world combined. HRSP’s case against Berger was part of its ongoing efforts to identify, investigate and prosecute individuals who engaged in genocide, torture, war crimes, recruitment or use of child soldiers, female genital mutilation, and other serious human rights violations. HRSP attorneys prosecuted the first torture case brought in the United States and have successfully prosecuted criminal cases against perpetrators of human rights violations in Guatemala, Ethiopia, Liberia, Cuba, and the former Yugoslavia, among others.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



So better things are not possible then.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Mr. Nice! posted:

He pops british sufafed like candy. A drawer full of it was in his trump tower pic with the taco bowl.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sudafed-trump-tower/

Snopes debunked that because of the box design on the Sudafed.



It's a US mucus relief version, which doesn't have pseudoephedrine, it has phenylephrine as its active ingredient, which can't get you high.

Does Trump pop adderall or some other crap to give him a bump? most likely, because he will be dopey as hell and then lit up like a christmas tree later.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



^^^ loving yikes


I really fail to see why Biden is so adored by African Americans, dude is an old white guy who has voted many times against African American interests, the only thing he really has to his name in the positive column is "was Obama's VP". He voted for a crime bill that saw disproportionate usage against African Americans with longer sentences associated with those crimes, has a regressive stance on the "war on drugs", he opposed busing of black students into white districts during desegregation, loving pushing for BAPCA, which prevents anyone who can't scrape together $2500 cash from filing bankruptcy, completely removing the prospect of the people who need to file for bankruptcy most from filing for it.

But poo poo I guess he's invited to the cook out.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Mar 11, 2020

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



bird cooch posted:

It turns out that historically he has done what the black population at the time supported. For decades, even if it's not popular later.

So how long is like a reasonable amount of time for people to do this petulant hissy fit thing? I've got a couple of IRL dudes that are really turned out over this primary. Like gonna lose their jobs if they don't get it together. I'm trying to be understanding and giving people time to mourn for the candidate but we are grown ups act like it.

What black population thought at the time that busing was a bad idea? What black population thought that too many people who were down on their luck were filing for bankruptcy, during the economic downturn in the mid 2000s that was beating the poo poo out of the middle class and poor? What black population thought that it was cool to massively escalate the "war on drugs" in the 90s, resulting in hundreds of thousands of black men being incarcerated for nonviolent offenses for outsized amounts of time, literally inventing mandatory minimum sentencing for drug offenses?

Is your take one of those "Biden just knows better than black people did at the time?"

orange juche fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Mar 11, 2020

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Godholio posted:

Hell, the Astros cheating scandal led to the Mets being disappointing in the offseason.

Time is a flat circle, Mets will always let their fans down.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




:yeeclaw:

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




"We live and die by the crab, Dee"

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



The same guy

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Milo and POTUS posted:

A CIA stud farm?

Weird brains are gonna weird.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



If you're curious why you can't find poo poo at stores:

quote:

He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them

Amazon cracked down on coronavirus price gouging. Now, while the rest of the world searches, some sellers are holding stockpiles of sanitizer and masks.

By Jack Nicas

March 14, 2020
Updated 1:33 p.m. ET

On March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States was announced, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.

Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said. “The major metro areas were cleaned out.”

Matt Colvin stayed home near Chattanooga, preparing for pallets of even more wipes and sanitizer he had ordered, and starting to list them on Amazon. Mr. Colvin said he had posted 300 bottles of hand sanitizer and immediately sold them all for between $8 and $70 each, multiples higher than what he had bought them for. To him, “it was crazy money.” To many others, it was profiteering from a pandemic.

The next day, Amazon pulled his items and thousands of other listings for sanitizer, wipes and face masks. The company suspended some of the sellers behind the listings and warned many others that if they kept running up prices, they’d lose their accounts. EBay soon followed with even stricter measures, prohibiting any U.S. sales of masks or sanitizer.

Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them.

“It’s been a huge amount of whiplash,” he said. “From being in a situation where what I’ve got coming and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to ‘What the heck am I going to do with all of this?’”

Mr. Colvin is one of probably thousands of sellers who have amassed stockpiles of hand sanitizer and crucial respirator masks that many hospitals are now rationing, according to interviews with eight Amazon sellers and posts in private Facebook and Telegram groups from dozens more. Amazon said it had recently removed hundreds of thousands of listings and suspended thousands of sellers’ accounts for price gouging related to the coronavirus.


Now both the physical and digital shelves are nearly empty.

Mikeala Kozlowski, a nurse in Dudley, Mass., has been searching for hand sanitizer since before she gave birth to her first child, Nora, on March 5. When she searched stores, which were sold out, she skipped getting gas to avoid handling the pump. And when she checked Amazon, she couldn’t find it for less than $50.


“You’re being selfish, hoarding resources for your own personal gain,” she said of the sellers.

Sites like Amazon and eBay have given rise to a growing industry of independent sellers who snatch up discounted or hard-to-find items in stores to post online and sell around the world.

These sellers call it retail arbitrage, a 21st-century career that has adults buying up everything from limited-run cereals to Fingerling Monkeys, a once hot toy. The bargain hunters look for anything they can sell at a sharp markup. In recent weeks, they found perhaps their biggest opportunity: a pandemic.

As they watched the list of Amazon’s most popular searches crowd with terms like “Purell,” “N95 mask” and “Clorox wipes,” sellers said, they did what they had learned to do: Suck up supply and sell it for what the market would bear.

Initially, the strategy worked. For several weeks, prices soared for some of the top results to searches for sanitizer, masks and wipes on Amazon, according to a New York Times analysis of historical prices from Jungle Scout, which tracks data for Amazon sellers. The data shows that both Amazon and third-party sellers like Mr. Colvin increased their prices, which then mostly dropped when Amazon took action against price gouging this month.

At the high prices, people still bought the products en masse, and Amazon took a cut of roughly 15 percent and eBay roughly 10 percent, depending on the price and the seller.

Then the companies, pressured by growing criticism from regulators and customers, cracked down. After the measures last week, Amazon went further on Wednesday, restricting sales of any coronavirus-related products from certain sellers.

“Price gouging is a clear violation of our policies, unethical, and in some areas, illegal,” Amazon said in a statement. “In addition to terminating these third party accounts, we welcome the opportunity to work directly with states attorneys general to prosecute bad actors.”

Mr. Colvin, 36, a former Air Force technical sergeant, said he started selling on Amazon in 2015, developing it into a six-figure career by selling Nike shoes and pet toys, and by following trends.

In early February, as headlines announced the coronavirus’s spread in China, Mr. Colvin spotted a chance to capitalize. A nearby liquidation firm was selling 2,000 “pandemic packs,” leftovers from a defunct company. Each came with 50 face masks, four small bottles of hand sanitizer and a thermometer. The price was $5 a pack. Mr. Colvin haggled it to $3.50 and bought them all.

He quickly sold all 2,000 of the 50-packs of masks on eBay, pricing them from $40 to $50 each, and sometimes higher. He declined to disclose his profit on the record but said it was substantial.

The success stoked his appetite. When he saw the panicked public starting to pounce on sanitizer and wipes, he and his brother set out to stock up.

Elsewhere in the country, other Amazon sellers were doing the same.

Chris Anderson, an Amazon seller in central Pennsylvania, said he and a friend had driven around Ohio, buying about 10,000 masks from stores. He used coupons to buy packs of 10 for around $15 each and resold them for $40 to $50. After Amazon’s cut and other costs, he estimates, he made a $25,000 profit.

Mr. Anderson is now holding 500 packs of antibacterial wipes after Amazon blocked him from selling them for $19 each, up from $16 weeks earlier. He bought the packs for $3 each.

Eric, a truck driver from Ohio who spoke on the condition that his surname not be published because he feared Amazon would retaliate, said he had also collected about 10,000 masks at stores. He bought each 10-pack for about $20 and sold most for roughly $80 each, though some he priced at $125.

“Even at $125 a box, they were selling almost instantly,” he said. “It was mind-blowing as far as what you could charge.” He estimates he made $35,000 to $40,000 in profit.

Now he has 1,000 more masks on order, but he’s not sure what to do with them. He said Amazon had been vague about what constituted price gouging, scaring away sellers who don’t want to risk losing their ability to sell on its site.

To regulators and many others, the sellers are sitting on a stockpile of medical supplies during a pandemic. The attorney general’s offices in California, Washington and New York are all investigating price gouging related to the coronavirus. California’s price-gouging law bars sellers from increasing prices by more than 10 percent after officials declare an emergency. New York’s law prohibits sellers from charging an “unconscionably excessive price” during emergencies.

An official at the Washington attorney general’s office said the agency believed it could apply the state’s consumer-protection law to sue platforms or sellers, even if they aren’t in Washington, as long as they were trying to sell to Washington residents.
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Mr. Colvin does not believe he was price gouging. While he charged $20 on Amazon for two bottles of Purell that retail for $1 each, he said people forget that his price includes his labor, Amazon’s fees and about $10 in shipping. (Alcohol-based sanitizer is pricey to ship because officials consider it a hazardous material.)

Current price-gouging laws “are not built for today’s day and age,” Mr. Colvin said. “They’re built for Billy Bob’s gas station doubling the amount he charges for gas during a hurricane.”

He added, “Just because it cost me $2 in the store doesn’t mean it’s not going to cost me $16 to get it to your door.”

But what about the morality of hoarding products that can prevent the spread of the virus, just to turn a profit?

Mr. Colvin said he was simply fixing “inefficiencies in the marketplace.” Some areas of the country need these products more than others, and he’s helping send the supply toward the demand.

“There’s a crushing overwhelming demand in certain cities right now,” he said. “The Dollar General in the middle of nowhere outside of Lexington, Ky., doesn’t have that.”

He thought about it more. “I honestly feel like it’s a public service,” he added. “I’m being paid for my public service.”

As for his stockpile, Mr. Colvin said he would now probably try to sell it locally. “If I can make a slight profit, that’s fine,” he said. “But I’m not looking to be in a situation where I make the front page of the news for being that guy who hoarded 20,000 bottles of sanitizer that I’m selling for 20 times what they cost me.”

After The Times published this article on Saturday morning, Mr. Colvin said he was exploring ways to donate all the supplies.


gently caress people like this with a rusty pole.

E: Wouldn't be surprised if once his neighbors find out he did this he gets his rear end beat.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Mar 14, 2020

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




Homie isn't an epidemiologist, and is getting a lot of clapback from infectious disease doctors in his comments. Take his charts and predictions with a grain of salt.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Cugel the Clever posted:

That article seems needlessly contrarian and fear-mongery. Yeah, no poo poo the average "flattening the curve" graphics don't have numbers and aren't meant to be taken as 100% literal, they're intended to explain the reasoning for the measures being taken in a way that is easy to understand. All the author is actually saying is that they personally believe draconian containment procedures are necessary to flatten the curve to where they believe it needs to be.

It's not impossible that such measures will be necessary, but I'm not going to take that advice from an "AI researcher".

Also healthy dose of xenophobia where he claims that Italy did nothing to contain the spread and simply waited until their health system collapsed to do anything. Dude may be an AI genius but he's a moron when it comes to anything else. I too can draw scary numbers on a graph and state asinine conclusions from it.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



maffew buildings posted:

There's thankfully a bunch of Mexican markets here and white people don't shop there.

There's a definite correlation between dumbass white people and raids on toilet paper and other daily goods.

I don't understand it other than as an aspect of white privilege, because they've never had anything that might possibly impact them before.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Handsome Ralph posted:

We bought a bidet last year and that poo poo is clutchhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Bidets own

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Suicide Watch posted:

Their reasoning specifically mentioned bar fights tying up EMS resources. Never change, New Jersey

NJ is the Florida of the Northeast.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Chichevache posted:

Suckerpunch would be heralded as one of the greatest movies of the decade if it came out last year. It was ahead of its time and I'm so disappointed how few people understand it.

Sucker punch was awful. Sorry for your brain OP.

The story was junk, it was completely incoherent, the visuals have not aged well at all.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Old Boot posted:

The good news is that we are very good at making flu vaccines.

The bad news is that we're a little distracted right now.

Avian flu is a bit different, it has a way amped up mortality rate compared to normal flu, and it is lethal to chicken eggs, which makes the virus extremely hard to culture. (It destroys the chicken egg before producing any decent quantity of virus)

You treat it in humans by giving antivirals and praying basically, because highly pathogenic avian flu mortality is more like Ebola than something like SARS/MERS. Thankfully avian flu doesn't spread person to person, all cases to date have been direct contact with infected birds for the HPAI strains.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Mar 16, 2020

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Mr. Nice! posted:

Trump cannot delay elections. Only congress has that power.

It won't stop Trump from trying to hurl a box full of monkey wrenches into that machinery just to see if it works. At a minimum he could make a gigantic pissbaby stink about it, and the Senate would probably back him because Republican majority.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



bloops posted:

HELL loving YEA BYE CREDIT CARD DEBT

(this will never happen)

alternatively, every american who made over 14 million dollars will get an additional 1 million.

Means testing is horseshit hth. How do they distribute the funds to individuals who are on SSDI or something like that where they don't have a taxable income?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Mr. Nice! posted:

The proposed bill I read earlier said SSDI people get it from SSA (or whatever it's called), SS recipients get it from SS, VA compensation recipients get it from the VA, and everyone else via their tax return. If they did not file last year (because of low/no income) they will have a simplified 1040 for them to use. Seemed to me like it would cover everyone.

Via tax return? What if you've already filed and received a tax return? Is this a stimulus that will be occurring 12 months after the livestock bolted out of the barn? Why does the government have to do everything rear end backwards?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Milo and POTUS posted:

What part of "ruin it like a business" don't you understand

good point

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



MA-Horus posted:

Some of the big brother houses JUST found out about it a day or so ago

Edit: social distancing circle pit!

How do you do a mosh pit with social distancing?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Radical 90s Wizard posted:

Like a normal pit but everyone stays at least 6 ft apart from each other

Imagine I posed the "mournful tits" Venture Bros scene except its describing a socially distant mosh pit.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



shame on an IGA posted:

Literally told a co worker "leave room for jesus" while nudging him away with a meterstick today

oh god totally gonna use this

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



LingcodKilla posted:

I got a rib broke at a DKM show two years ago. Poorly proved point that a 40yr can still mosh.

Imagining crab dad in a mosh pit makes me chuckle for some reason.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




Might want to edit that, because it's racist/xenophobic. McNally is paddling people for it.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012







Lmao this dude gonna get hosed up when it comes time to get a job after college.

Assuming Darwin and Karma don't pay him a visit and give him double pneumonia.

Rad party though I'm sure.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Mar 19, 2020

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Stravag posted:

What? Trapt is a maga band? How did i miss this? I also forgot they existed after i got out of highschool so this may be related.

Did you know they have 2 million Spotify listeners and 2.6 million Pandora listeners? They are also eager to let you know they make more money in any given weekend than you will in your whole life, apparently.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



A big part of ITIL is drilling it into the IT guys head how important it is to deliver value to the shareholders. When someone in the IT department comes up with a good idea it usually gets turned down until they stop coming up with good ideas.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Ceiling fan posted:

They tell me the same thing about teleconferences too. But I've never seen one with more than 3 video feeds that wasn't a total clusterfuck.

http://conferencecall.biz/

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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Godholio posted:

I would like to express whatever sentiment is appropriate for a situation like that.

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