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HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
I'm here, for Keir.

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HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Red Oktober posted:

Johnson's worth over £3.1m according to an article The loving Sun published a loving week ago. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3760519/prime-minister-boris-johnson-age-net-worth-full-name/

Fucks sake.

He doesn't represent the party of the people, though.


Aidan_702 posted:

Keir isn't Jess Phillips and he's not a wrecker, and he's a working class lad.

A working class knight of the realm, that'll work. You're fired.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Azza, do you believe those on the Labour right were placated by Corbyn at any point?

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Barry Foster posted:

We're a true leftist movement, not a true labour movement

Anyone loyal to a party because they're loyal to a party doesn't have principles, they have a football team

The labour party no longer represents my views, and actively works against them. They are our enemy. Why the gently caress would we still support them?

Starmer and the rest of them at least realise that you don't win by being nice, you win by shanking those who opposed you. Corbynism's biggest mistake was applying 'kinder, gentler politics' to politicians, when it should have been reserved solely for the vulnerable of society

we took the moral highground and it hosed us

Reminds me of something I saw the other day, from 2017:

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Darth Walrus posted:

He may be thinking he can pull an Attlee here. I don't have a detailed enough understanding of the wartime coalition to get whether that's workable, though.

He might be thinking it for the same reason.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
http://camdennewjournal.com/article/david-miliband-backs-sir-keir-starmer-selection-contest-holborn-and-st-pancras-officia
https://web.archive.org/web/20141031183527/keirstarmer.com/endorsers

I'm in a Google-y hunt-y mood but it can wait until tomorrow.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Man the boy racers are gonna be upset when the lockdown ends, with nobody around they've been out there practically 16 hours a day lately.

Comrade Fakename posted:

Sorry to drag up a topic from pages ago now, but I haven’t been on the forum since this afternoon. Re: Keir and the Trans Rights pledge, I can tell you that on the RLB campaign we received a shitload of emails that were basically a few paragraphs of transphobic wittering followed by “...and that’s why I can never vote for someone who signed the Trans Rights pledge to be leader of the Labour Party”. This happened a lot.

Because he didn’t sign that pledge, Keir was 100% the TERFs’ choice for leader. Does anyone seriously think that Keir or his team weren’t aware of that? They clearly explicitly did not sign this pledge that the other two candidates did in order to court a block of awful people to vote for him.

I'll have a look around today, but on the surface level it looks like Starmer's pro-LGBT rights when they're all wrapped up in a neat package, but isn't specifically pro-trans rights.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Public prosecution service annual lecture - the role of the prosecutor in a modern democracy - Keir Starmer, October 2009

Maybe someone will want to read through that, so there it is.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Bardeh posted:

Jeremy Corbyn just retweeted this, right now lmao



It's gone now, but only because the original was deleted, not the retweet.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

baka kaba posted:

Hey did anybody mention the BBC ran a fake Grand National with computer generated horses and took the whole thing deadly seriously with classical music and everything

all past jockeys and experts weighing in on which of the famous racehorses from history was definitely gonna win the prerendered race. none of the riders started doing dances on the back of the horse or anything! surreal

It was ITV, and they've been doing it since they got the rights to it, but yeah. Fair play really, they had the slot, they might as well have done something with it, and hey it briefly sated the bookies' hunger.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Seeing the killer virus play-by-play laid out like this is pretty scary, makes me want to be more of a recluse than I normally am, don't fancy going through even a fraction of all this.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Starmer's first major act as leader is going to be to suspend Corbyn, isn't it.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
https://twitter.com/Alexpofficial_/status/1247600793244577792

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Doing another little look round for Starmer stuff, because why not, here's the Heil's 'takedown' of him in 2009:

quote:

Profile: The very political DPP with a past that he doesn't want you to know

Keir Stramer, the left-wing Director of Public Prosecutions, makes an intriguing omission in his Who's Who entry. While describing himself as being educated at Leeds and Oxford Universities, he excludes his years at the fee-paying Reigate Grammar School. Left-wingers view such excellent schools as temples of Tory elitism, and is not hard to see why having gone to one might conceivably be a trifle embarrassing for the New Labour figure whose parents named him after Keir Hardy, the founding Labour Party leader. But aren't we entitled to expect the nation's law chief to be entirely frank about his background? This, after all, is the man who expects us to listen when he expresses the view that, in some cases, relatives should be given the go-ahead to help loved ones kill themselves.

To Starmer, this comes under the heading of human rights, the great cause of his life which has also enriched many lawyers. Yesterday he was chauffeured between television studios to trail his 'clarification' of the legal position on assisted suicides. No other DPP in history has publicly paraded himself quite so enthusiastically. Didn't they used to be relatively-anonymous figures, universally respected for their discretion?

So what else do we know about him? He hated the name Keir as a boy but 'grew to appreciate it later', he has said, revealing the depth and historic resonance of his Left-wing beliefs. Certainly, Keir Starmer is a clever lawyer. But there was widespread surprise when he was appointed by the Government last November at the age of 46, because his reputation since being called to the bar in 1987 was purely as a defender. 'He'd never been thought of as a criminal specialist let alone a prosecutor,' says a colleague. 'But he talks like a man with all the answers. I hope he has an answer if the Conservatives take over next year.' Indeed he has: his appointment, he points out, 'is a five-year contract, so a change of government doesn't make any difference to me'.

In 2001 Starmer was voted Human Rights Lawyer of the Year. As joint head of the Doughty Street Chambers in London specialising in human rights cases, he has represented tree dwellers, road protesters and hunt saboteurs in various legal tussles. He also defended ex-MI5 officer David Shayler in his appeal against conviction for breaching the Official Secrets Act. Two year ago he acted for two terror suspects in the landmark House of Lords case which led to the control order system being declared unlawful under the Human Rights Act. He also examined the Government's legal arguments on the eve of going to war in Iraq and found (in typical courtroom language) 'a problem of credibility'.

Starmer - who is married to Victoria, a solicitor who mentors deprived children - was the first university graduate in his family. In Who's Who he refers to his parents Rodney and Josephine - lifelong, Guardian-reading socialists - as 'Rod and Jo'. Rod, 74, was a toolmaker and Jo used to be a nurse. She has been physically disabled for some years. As well as devoting themselves to rescuing donkeys, Rod and Jo had four children. The other three went to comprehensive school. Starmer has said about his happy home life that 'whenever one of us left home, they were replaced with a donkey'. In fact his parents now rescue various animals full time from their home in the Surrey commuter belt. After Reigate Grammar-Starmer went on to read law at Leeds and up to St Edmund Hall Oxford, before joining the Middle Temple chambers of Sir John Mortimer, the late barrister and novelist. From there he moved on to Doughty Street, immersing himself in human rights issues.

Since then Franz Kafka's The Trial has become his favourite book. It's about a man arrested by a remote and inaccessible authority without knowing what crime he is meant to have committed. But help is at hand from an unexpected source. Could this be how Keir Starmer perceives himself - as the unexpected source of help for those helping a loved one end their own life?

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

By the end of the week, they will be hitting the 9/11 death toll daily. It's staggering.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
For what it's worth, my local food bank is run by Lib Dems, and they make no mention of that fact anywhere, they do it because it's needed.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Azza Bamboo posted:

They make no mention because if your charity has party political affiliations it is not eligible for tax breaks.

That's a thought, not sure if they're a charity as such, they're not on the charity commission site anyway, at least not under what I'd expect.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

There's another form of charitable organisation besides registered charity but for the life of me I can't remember what it is called! Community something or other. But I can't google it because I don't know what to google LOL

Ed: "Community Interest Company"

Ah cheers, probably one of those then but even if not it's still good to know.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

justcola posted:

We're at 7000 deaths as of yesterday.

It's also twice as many deaths as every terrorist attack in the UK combined, according to Wiki.

Jose posted:

singapore is on their second outbreak after relaxing the lock down

I was originally optimistic we'd have a summer this year, but given this is absolutely going to happen at least once here I'm doubtful now.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Let's think of Boris as he would like to be remembered.

https://twitter.com/garlict/status/807291572706508800

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
I'm glad the virus has its own poppy now.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
RLB was potentially what many in the thread had been clamouring for, someone along the lines of Corbyn but without being an old man with tons of baggage.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
I was out briefly earlier, and there were two people sitting in a very conspicuous car, so I assume I'm on The List now.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Bardeh posted:



There are multiple of these posts on the local FB group every day. The person who posted it literally called the police on this dude :wtf:

The air is lava.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

peanut- posted:

Can you imagine the kind of person that would volunteer for this job

https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/1248982829607854081

Sweet, free megaphone.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Andi Peters is on QVC selling pasties. This is completely irrelevant to everything but I feel like it's a sentence that needs to be written.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
My god, he's been doing it for years. Fair play, I guess someone has to do it.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Very much so.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

What the gently caress does this even mean, beyond "cis white man"?

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Starmer responds to the day's events:

quote:

There are unresolved issues in the Parliamentary Labour Party and we do need to resolve them as soon as possible. We need to be an outward looking confident party rather than inward divided party, so we need to address that. On the other hand I respect colleagues who want to make their voice heard from different places, whether it’s the back bench, the mid bench through select committees or on the front bench. But we also need to remember that forming a strong opposition is what is needed, not just for the Labour Party but for the country.

This is actually from 2016 but let's be honest he'll be milquetoastier now if anything

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

GordonTheDeadFish posted:

I thought Jonathan Ashworth was one of the better-rated members of Corbyn's cabinet? Bit disheartening to think he may have been involved, though it's not necessarily the case that husband and wife are precisely on the same page on this. Between this, Rayner being a bit poo poo during the leadership election, and even Pidcock getting a bit TERFy, we don't have a whole lot of good MPs to look to.

On the one hand, Ashworth seems like he's good at his job, but on the other, a couple of days before the last election he threw Corbyn under a bus, then got into the bus and drove it back and forth over him, before setting fire to what remained of his twitching corpse. So, swings and roundabouts.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

She has her Boots on, but she's only kicking with one of them.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

The Question IRL posted:

older relatives ... point them to Ireland.

An excellent suggestion, with no possible drawbacks.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:


Ah, silver lining, that's alright then, ignore the first bit.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Szmitten posted:

I hear the Sunday Times is ripping the government and Boris a new one tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/alanferrier/status/1251618521718632448

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
A number that gets bandied about uncritically is 28,330, which was the estimated number of deaths from flu in the 2014/15 winter period. If the final Covid count is around that number, nobody is going to look at the fact it was over a much shorter period with far more extreme measures taken, they'll say it was a lot of fuss about nothing.

E: In 1973 there was an epidemic of London Flu in the US.

HJB fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Apr 19, 2020

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HJB
Feb 16, 2011

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We're still a good two or three weeks away from the fallout caused by the Easter weekend, let alone the inevitable second peak after the lockdown is eventually relaxed.

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