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I am looking forward to posting with you all for the next thousand years this month.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 01:30 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 06:04 |
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tag yourself I'm muscles soldier with the sleeveless lab coat
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 02:27 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Yellowstone last erupted ~650k, 1.4m, and 2.1m years ago. Are we totally due for the next one? Yes, but we're equally "due" for thousands of other threats as well, so don't focus too much on it! Like, a pandemic, for example
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 02:45 |
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kazr posted:i'm starting a job in my state's largest hospital tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVmeKWOsEU
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 02:46 |
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In the US, it's still March
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 03:16 |
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1245078449225687040?s=20 I'm gonna be the guy but while this is not the right way to address things obviously you really shouldn't wear contaminated PPE outside of contaminated rooms If the public halls weren't contaminated before, they are once you wear PPE from a sick room to a not sick room This is the whole reason we use disposable PPE, the thing is we need to be doing warm zone decons and it's practically impossible to achieve that so the other way would be making whole hospitals sick/not sick and wearing full PPE in the sick hospital at all times and deconing when you leave. From the looks of it, and given the level of PPE that you see like the Korean or Chinese medical staff in, I assume that's what they're doing.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 04:03 |
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Rauros posted:worrying about the optics of wearing masks in hallways seems like a lost cause when their are refrigerator trucks in the parking lot It's not the optics, it's that if you wear an N95 into a contaminated room and then wear the same N95 into an uncontaminated hallway you contaminate the hallway when you breathe out and agitate all the trapped virus particles Even if it's not very likely, you really really have to treat PPE like that because you defeat the whole point of following BSI protocols when you half-rear end them and especially at scale The optics might be what the boss is concerned about, I don't know, but it's real bad practice to wear PPE continually while transitioning from sick to not-sick areas.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 04:06 |
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I love the idea that the Chinese just say the right numbers but it's the interpreters that have done the lie.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 04:23 |
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Rauros posted:yeah, i get that. i've just seen other stories about MBA's worrying about optics of wearing PPE rather than biosecurity protocols, and this article mentioned the administrators being worried about their hospitals being seen as unclean. Yeah that's smallbrain business idiots who shouldn't be allowed in hospitals no not even when they're sick
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 04:24 |
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Bird flu I worked in pharmacy, nobody gave a poo poo and it was all media hype. We got flooded with awareness poo poo and like emergency stocks and poo poo and had to do a bunch of trainings but as far as I know it was barely human to human transmissible if at all. It had a bad mortality rate but was hard to catch, basically Swine flu I worked on a pediatric psych ward and we did pretty strict lockdowns and had to restrict and screen visitors but nobody was worried about people dying, mostly we were worried about a unit getting it because it's real difficult to quarantine 10 year olds with mental illnesses to their rooms for weeks The first one nobody took seriously because barely anybody got it, the second one nobody took seriously because it wasn't extremely terrible
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 05:32 |
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Based on present numbers the US has fewer serious/critical cases by population than other countries at only 2.5% of cases being serious/critical, but also a higher mortality at 2% or so. I am guessing some of that is because of catching patients early at ERs and discharging them before they deteriorate, so I am guessing our number of critical patients will trend up as the number of total cases starts to level. I guess a bit part of that is just testing capacity and the number of known cases at this point, but I think other countries are seeing a higher rate of serious/critical and a lower rate of death and I can't help but think that's because people ain't going to hospitals.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 07:15 |
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Even of known cases, even in the US, only 5% need hospitalization. Of the 5% that needs hospitalization, 20% die. There is no 20% hospitalization rate or the disease most likely would have self-limited. The numbers in the US when I ran them last night were only 2% severe/critical (hospitalized) and 2% die. I have no idea where you would get a 20% hospitalization rate. And that doesn't account for the likely numerous asymptomatic or so-mild-as-to-never-report cases. Or false negatives.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 16:28 |
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They do it, we do it, everybody does it!!!
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 16:29 |
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Yes, the hospitals will get overloaded. Yes, healthcare providers will have to make hard decisions about who can be saved. Yes, many people will die at home because they don't want or can't afford to go to the hospital, or just because our culture has trained people not to go to hospitals because it's unaffordable. No, 50 million people won't need hospitalization. Yes, people will die who otherwise might survive if the hospital system weren't overloaded, but there won't be 50 million of them.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 16:32 |
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Can you quote the "numbers you ran" From last night? No, because they have changed and I didn't write down the poo poo I ran. From now? Yes. Presently in the US there are 190,022 cases confirmed. Of those, 4102 have died. 4102/190022=0.02158 or 2.2% mortality. It's not perfect because we know more people have died at home or without confirmation, but it's probably in the ballpark. In the US, there are 178,646 confirmed cases active right now. Of those, 4,576 are severe/critical. 4576/178646=0.0256 or 2.6% hospitalized. There are almost certainly many more cases that have not been tested, but because the US testing policy many places is "has shown up to the hospital," it's unlikely the untested cases are severe enough to be seen at a hospital. Many of the cases that are not hospitalized are people who have called family doctors or been seen at urgent cares or so on and been told "yeah it's the bad poo poo, stay home and call 911 if you can't breathe." There is likely a good chunk of those who were tested who weren't admitted at the time but will be admitted later as they deteriorate. It's probably not gonna be 17.5% of those people. Globally, the numbers on Worldometer look like this: That's basically the trend. 5% need hospitalized. 20% of the hospitalized cases die. There's nothing that suggests 20% of people need hospitalization.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 16:39 |
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Like I'm not saying a whole fuckload of people aren't gonna die and that the hospital systems are gonna hold it together because that's insane and clearly not happening but assuming 50 million people are gonna die because 20% need hospital support isn't supported by any numbers I can think of
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 16:42 |
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hepatizon posted:You're ignoring the time dimension. The disease often takes a ~a week after symptoms begin to progress to a severe form. In exponential growth, half the cases are newer than the doubling period. The vast majority of US cases have not had time to develop severe symptoms. I understand that, but we can look at numbers from places that are ahead of us on the curve and we're not seeing 20% hospitalization rates or 20% needing hospitalization so like I said, those numbers aren't accurate but they're indicative. We'll see some millions dead but not 50 million.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 17:50 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:wow this is some amazing armchair epidemiology you should post it on medium.com I haven't made any outlandish predictions tho I'm afraid I need a lawyer to tell us only 15 going to 0 if I want clicks
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 17:53 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:I predict that everyone will die inshallah
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 18:11 |
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 22:09 |
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fewer vehicle accidents, traumas, fatal violence, shootings, etc. maybe? lmao nah we're gonna find out that elective medical procedures and going to the hospital for minor diseases is like the number one killer in America lmao
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 22:22 |
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Durf posted:i've noticed a lot more firetrucks rolling out lately could be, some places the fire engines are where the paramedics live and the ambulances just have BLS staffing
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 23:04 |
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Apraxin posted:https://twitter.com/dodaistewart/status/1245316678629699586 And I think we've seen 20% false negative rates thrown around anecdotally in the last thread yeah??? lmao the whole city has it
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 01:08 |
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shovelbum posted:New York is at 21% and rising New York is literally only testing people at the hospitals right now.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 02:16 |
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Homeless Friend posted:I'll order the body bags Fed gonna outbid you
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 02:34 |
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nikosoft posted:I desperately needed a haircut so I used my husband's clippers with the highest guard on them. I already had an old lady short hair style before this, so I didn't think it would be that bad, but it turns out with shorter hair that I look exactly like a chimpanzee. lol I owned myself go shorter full Furiosa it's also more hygienic hair can trap a lot of suspended particles
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 02:42 |
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Bruteman posted:Took an exploratory walk through "the covid threat is overblown, the government is loving us and destroying the economy on purpose, gently caress you I'm smarter than you and I do what I want" twitter tonight and, folks, it is lit. please post your most significant findings itt
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 02:43 |
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HORROR OF GEESE posted:Hey, what's the SpO2 number where you should be worried again? My shortness of breath has been getting worse the past few days and—though I don't have any other symptoms—it might be time for me to head in. What's the deal med goons? EMTs give O2 at 94% under most protocols. If I see 94% resting I'm gonna be wondering what is up and looking for what the causes are. If you live at very high altitude this changes is something I learned in Ladakh but that doesn't apply anywhere in the US that I know of but if you live like at 9000 ft in Colorado or something you'll want to look for specifics. Edit: it's quarantine, I'm gonna do this myself actually.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 16:03 |
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Pulse oximetry at altitude is a fuckin' rabbit hole because of periodic breathing holy moly
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 16:09 |
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Der Meister posted:if it is hard for you to breathe go in immediately regardless of what the device says. Yeah it's this
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 16:24 |
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lmao combine this with the 68% positive rate on tests done in NYC and that's basically "the whole city has it" lol
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 16:51 |
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new kind of cat posted:we are all losing our fuckibg minds even those who live offline especially those who live offline
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 20:06 |
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Lessail posted:i'm sick of all the "everything changed overnight but our company is here for you" ads but if not the companies, who will stand by us in this hard time? the government? certainly not, they're just maximizing their chances for reelection our neighbors? no way, they are savages who are just waiting for a chance to kill us for our beans look at the selfless corporate delivery drivers tho who risk everything to bring us things from Amazon Dot Com! these are people who can stand by us. but people can fail, people can die, people will always abandon us corporations are forever, and our only hope,,
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 20:26 |
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MoaM posted:the further away i am from a hospital, the safer i shall be! if you think about it a lot of sick people are turning up at these hospitals something about hospitals, probably
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 20:32 |
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:they literally should not run these polls. what possible reason is there to run these polls?? recording how dumb we all were for alien archaeologists
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 20:40 |
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D1E posted:The best tracking website has updated: lmao, scoreboard motherfuckers we're gonna win the olympics
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 21:00 |
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1024x768 posted:can someone link me that website that chronicles the day-by-day breakdown of % positive tests and # total tests done in the USA https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 21:44 |
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Homeless Friend posted:
They don't pronounce in the field in New York? Maryland has had us pronouncing in the field after unsuccessful CPR since like 2016
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 21:47 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Lol if you don't chant the mantra of the medicine buddha in front of a glass of water to bless the water then drink it to protect yourself from Coronavirus. Logyonma/Parnashavari also good for this
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 21:50 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 06:04 |
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1024x768 posted:This is good, but I am after the one that tracks testing #s https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html This maybe?
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