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ronya posted:I don't think OF had that specifically in mind - hence my quick sketch of why, in fact, a union 'without politics' is a real thing that exists in UK labour law e: & I'm guessing the kind of fuckwits who endorse these things would regard striking &c as inherently political acts, which renders collective bargaining completely pointless since there's no real way of saying "no", so the idea of a non-political union is a complete oxymoron communism bitch posted:I'm really enjoying seeing people get radicalised in real time in the Cool Zone thread. (plus obligatory, there's Borrovan fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Jun 1, 2020 |
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It's not just you. I've been in awful mental health*, just tired all the time, sad, unmotivated, stressed, crying a lot, my girlfriend (who doesn't normally have mental health issues) isn't far off, I've heard similar stuff from loads of other people. Seems like the kind of thing that would probably be normal in these kinds of situation if these kinds of situations were themselves halfway normal. Be kind to yourself is about all you can do. *which normally correlates with bad posting, so, uh, sorry, probably (e: for me, not twisto, who's been posting as insightfully as ever imo) Borrovan fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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forkboy84 posted:But I have noticed others struggling with it all and as much as I personally think we need to keep the lockdown in place for longer I'm also worried about how most people would react to that, or to a 2nd wave of Covid-19 that leads to a tightening of restrictions. Obviously the longer this goes on the worse that'll be in the end, and even more obviously our first concern should be protecting the vulnerable and reducing deaths, it's just something that's been playing on my mind a lot
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The Perfect Element posted:So, thread, I am finally at the point where I am genuinely frightened about the rise of fascism around the world, and want to do something about it - i.e., join an organisation(s) which combat fascism. I've had a Google and not really been able to find anything, and I couldn't see anything on the front page - so please can someone help? Just links or whatever are fine if you don't want to effortpost. Thing is though, there's been gently caress all going on lately, save for Tommy's latest Muslamic Ray Guns escapades up North which are kind of isolated to a single issue atm. There was some liberal nonsense in the papers a while back about how great it is that all the street fash have calmed down since Boris has been in power, we were all joking about how it turns out the way to combat fascism is to give them exactly what they want. It's weird though - typically, give fash an inch, they'll take a mile. Legitimising their viewpoints emboldens them, elect a Trump and they dig out the tikki torches. I have no idea what's so different this time. A terrorism researcher I'm close to reckons they're just as active as ever, but we've just pushed them off the streets and onto the web. I'm not so sure about that, since Western fash are all about overt displays of cultural dominance, which you can't do online. If I'm wrong, more co-ordinated online action might be the way forward (English Disco Lovers was a great one). But, it could just be that stuff like the aftermath of Charlottesville, the mass rise in interest in anti-fascism worldwide, and the consistent violence whenever they have one of their rallies has got them worried about delegitimising their viewpoint, like it (eventually) did in the '30s (in the UK, at least) - i.e., we're winning in the streets, but it makes gently caress all difference because their guys are in power across the world now so all they've got to do is sit tight and avoid making GBS threads their pants too publicly. It looks pretty grim to me, and the absence of actual mobilisations makes it really hard to keep people organised ready to oppose them when they start building the camps. All we can do is try to stay as involved as we can, and encourage others to do the same.
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XMNN posted:I think you can probably guess the tone of most of the replies https://mobile.twitter.com/LukeTeddybur/status/1267833416990576642 was a concise and effective rebuttal to an apparently good faith ALM post. Just doesn't have quite the emphasis of https://mobile.twitter.com/chicagospurs/status/1267775288483741698
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Guavanaut posted:a working nation
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Miftan posted:Does anybody know what I can do if I want to help with the protests right now? What are good places to give money to, etc. Danger - Octopus! posted:Yeah, cop shows are kinda of like, really? kecske posted:theres a stickied thread in Games that'll also get you a 'only trust your fists / police will never help you' gang tag
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sassassin posted:The surviving mods of my usual Swansea City forum (one died of cancer the other day) are outing themselves as full-on anti-left bootlickers, which is a bit annoying. The site admin is starting individual threads for UK protesters he sees on twitter doing something he doesn't like saying "Shoot him". Swans fans are fashy as gently caress. You'll see a busload of them at any major fash event, there's a major DFLA contingent (with connections to much nastier groups), all the pubs near Liberty Stadium are pretty much no-go for known leftists (they're pretty big on Redwatch-style tactics). Obviously just talking about the ultras, rather than, for example, me and most of my mates, but I'd be very surprised if the broader online community wasn't predominately right wing.
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OwlFancier posted:They probably a: wouldn't notice it for 20 years and b: would now scream about how it's the gay agenda. People just don't notice this poo poo outside of the context of dicking on trans people e: ^^^they're typically the ones with really nice bathrooms & all
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There's some decent points in the specific proposals, severely watered down by wrapping them up in a shift towards contribution based benefits which are a massive gently caress you to migrants, the disabled and the young, and then all dressed up in strivers/skivers rhetoric "to win back public trust, we need to completely endorse the Tory narrative, but we'd do it much better than the Tories you guys I swear" (last bit probably true given the specific proposals, but it's still triangulation of the worst kind & likely completely ineffective)
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Spotted this in the Cool Zone, thought some of you guys might have reason to bookmark it for research purposes or w/eVlonald Prump posted:Hi CSPAM. Long time no post.
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George Floyd death: Violence against police 'detracted' from Black Lives Matter message, says London mayorSky News posted:Mr Khan told Sky News there can be "no excuse" for abuse or violence against police. oval office.
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Sucks that you can't get a proper breakfast sausage made from kindly treated pigs, all the free range poo poo tastes like pork or something, its not right Is it really too much to make a sausage from only the very worst parts of perfectly happy pigs. Or they can be sick or something idc
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thespaceinvader posted:On the statue, has anyone seen the photo of it surrounded by protest signs laid up against the plinth, with a protestor kneeling, fist in the air, on top?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is it fair to say Starmer is a racist then? Or at least willing to appease racists? Which is to say; racist.
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Borrovan posted:I was gonna make a joke about prosecuting historic CSA but I didn't actually want to type the words out, I'm sure you can p much imagine how the joke goes (or not, up to you)
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Pistol_Pete posted:"Yes, of course we would have reported on and engaged with these protests in good faith but the statue being chucked in the harbour is such an outrage that we can only report on that and also it cancels out all the things you were protesting against and this is all your own faults!" If people had just let the cops brutalise them without any resistance they'd be blaming the left for not supporting brave cops doing the best they can in a difficult situation.
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George Floyd Hall or gtfo e: I would also accept 410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS Hall
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crispix posted:Princess Diana came third in that thing and if they held it this year Maddie would be in the top 10 e: gently caress me Enoch Powell's on it Borrovan fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:If he doesn't say anything then it won't be the number one item in the front pages or the main news broadcasts. That's all that it takes to be invisible to approximately 67% of the population of the UK. For the 33% (to be absurdly optimistic) who actually read the political news (which probably breaks down sth 2/3 are Labour and the rest Lib Dem / Tory), everyone knows he's a remainer so yeah what's the point. But if he tries to sway the few people who are informed enough to care about this poo poo but don't already vote Labour, he exposes himself to alienating the 67% who Just Don't Care About Politics. Very little chance of success, but there's not going to be a GE between now & crashing out without a deal, so it'd surely be a good idea to actually loving do something now to avoid being ~held to account~ later
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Failed Imagineer posted:(they're all good)
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thespaceinvader posted:I posted this a few days ago, it's a nonsense survey with horrible questions and they're collecting emails. I'm not giving them my loving email, but I'm hoping the resident computer touchers might be able to find a quiet way to gently caress with the data or something. ...but it looks like it doesn't block you from submitting multiple times, or check for valid e-mails/postcodes,* so I guess it can just be spammed with white noise? *I heard, from my buddy, Weedlord Bonerhitler
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Jose posted:this guy has a history degree from cambridge lmoa
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Guavanaut posted:Same with the main police abolitionist idea of replacing most of the work they do with community action and social services drawn from a very different group of people. What I'm saying is, you could replace the police with these groups under capitalism, but it wouldn't be under capitalism for long
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Beefeater1980 posted:The Gladstone thing is a bit weird: he tried to stop the Opium War, was the most popular politician of his time with the working class, introduced voting without your boss knowing how you voted and tried to give Ireland home rule but got hosed over by the House of Lords. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/article/gladstone-and-slavery/AB74EF5C7EC598FE9A82555B46AEBC54 posted:William Gladstone's views on slavery and the slave trade have received little attention from historians, although he spent much of his early years in parliament dealing with issues related to that subject. His stance on slavery echoed that of his father, who was one of the largest slave owners in the British West Indies, and on whom he was dependent for financial support. Gladstone opposed the slave trade but he wanted to improve the condition of the slaves before they were liberated. In 1833, he accepted emancipation because it was accompanied by a period of apprenticeship for the ex-slaves and by financial compensation for the planters. In the 1840s, his defence of the economic interests of the British planters was again evident in his opposition to the foreign slave trade and slave-grown sugar. By the 1850s, however, he believed that the best way to end the slave trade was by persuasion, rather than by force, and that conviction influenced his attitude to the American Civil War and to British colonial policy. As leader of the Liberal party, Gladstone, unlike many of his supporters, showed no enthusiasm for an anti-slavery crusade in Africa. His passionate commitment to liberty for oppressed peoples was seldom evident in his attitude to slavery.
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elbkaida posted:Is a company able to fire someone over their political views just like that? Seems like that would get you sued straight away. Is the hope that they have some other way to get him to leave?
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Ash Crimson posted:Domestic violence victim or not she's still a bad person e: & I just realised I compared a sexual assault victim to a sex offender, which is also very distasteful, but frankly if she doesn't want to be compared to utter vermin maybe she shouldn't act like utter vermin? Borrovan fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:That was exactly what I thought when I read it but was loathe to express the viewpoint lest women I know (including relatives one of whom suffered horrendous domestic violence for 12 years) who are survivors of domestic violence dogpile me. gh0stpinballa posted:sorry but what does any of this have to do with the sun splashing an interview with her abuser on the front page to eek out some sales
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josh04 posted:It's not really fair to suggest that the Sun are doing Rowling a favour by putting her abusive ex talking about slapping her on the cover, regardless of anything else.
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JustaDamnFool posted:mainly originating from the people being hurt by said actions 
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