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Agreed Alone is good. It's much less Bear Grylls I DRANK MY PISS!!!!! I'M A MACHO WARRIOR!!!! than I was originally expecting. Most of the time the winning move is just to conserve energy and see who can handle losing the most weight. It hasn't been tried as much as it should be, but the true winning move imo is to go in fat, as fat as you can while being functional. After that you just have to not gently caress up big like losing your firestarter or cutting your hand open and not go crazy.
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To be clear, every week or 10 days they have a couple production people go to all the different locations and do a checkup on everyone. If your weight gets below a certain threshold, they will pull you, period. Sometimes it super sucks season 3, but it's a good move since there are people who would starve themselves to death if you let them make the call. HugeGrossBurrito posted:alone really is a pretty good show. I remember. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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Like the name of the show, they are alone. (There is one season where everyone is pairs, not individuals -- you apply with your sibling, spouse, whatever)
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Outrail posted:That's hilarious, do you have a link to this vid? Tbf I wouldn't gently caress with grizzlies either. If they could ever do one on the east coast, black bears are nbd, but brown bears, hell no.
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Uncle Enzo posted:No, there was also that accountant guy from Ohio that did survival stuff as a Boy Scout leader. e: oh I found the one you mean https://www.history.com/shows/alone/cast/britt-ahart it looks like there have been a couple more since then
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Rinkles posted:i think they care about money (being liable)
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Rinkles posted:maybe. i don't really watch much reality tv. i'm surprised they're so cavalier with the contestants' safety, that's all.
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Hulu has 1–6. I also watched the Netflix season first, but I think it's probably better to go in order if you can. It looks like season 7 is only available through the history channel for now
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I personally assumed pairs would be harder mentally because being with the other person 24/7 would drive you insane. Season 4 is all pairs so see what you think!
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bird with big dick posted:Why would you have to be with the other person 24/7 like I’d expect my partner to be out fishing or collecting coconuts while I’m back at camp training the monkey butlers or whatever Then as it goes on, you're in the hut in bed 23 hours a day just trying to conserve energy.
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:The idea that having a partner in a survival situation versus not having a partner would be annoying is mind boggling to me. Like, you know how carefully people's personalities are analyzed for space missions or overwintering in Antarctica, to make sure you mesh as a team and nobody will snap? Now there is exactly one other person, zero personality testing, no chain of command, no private space, more physical hardship, and snapping is as easy as one person pushing one button.
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One of the big takeaways of Alone imo is that you really need to be able to entertain yourself. I was super glad he won. He hosted one or two of the reunion shows -- I thought that was great, and I'm mad they got some doofus in a flannel shirt to take over that job e: I googled him and he's a truther, whoops Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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It looks like the kids were 14 and 12, so at least old enough to understand what was going on. I don't remember if they said what they did with the kids, maybe a grandparent came to stay with them or the kids went to stay with friends?
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Apparently cavers are incredibly ready to talk poo poo about spelunkers. Who knew! e: some good lmaos quote:Comments: Little information is available on this incident, but considering it was a 2 AM trip to a cave locally known as Stoner’s Den probably explains a lot. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Strongly recommend The Alpinist (on Netflix). Just go in cold and be prepared for the guy that Alex Honnold thinks is insane
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Fwiw I think The Alpinist is shot more intensely. A lot of the shots as he's climbing are from directly above, looking down at him so you can see his tiny points of contact to the face and the full drop below him as he free solos. I never normally mind heights, but that was a lot. If you couldn't get through Free Solo, this one is more of everything imo.
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It said he wouldn't carry a locator beacon specifically (as a rule) because "then he wouldn't really be alone." That was where I was over it.
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The River Runner is new on Netflix. Summary: "A kayaker sets out to become the first man to paddle the four great rivers that flow from Tibet's sacred Mount Kailash." I was stoked thinking it would be about like Free Solo in terms of cool footage and the actual process vs. biography. It was definitely almost all biography with like 10 minutes of the final river trip. It's great he grew as a person, and it's still worth watching, but I would really love to see a kayaking version of an Everest trip, The Alpinist, etc. Tbh it doesn't have to be dangerous for me, I just want to hear about the process and see beautiful scenery and cool poo poo. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Mar 20, 2022 |
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One of the most amazing parts to me is that Alex is a really, really good coach. That's pretty rare imo for people who are true standouts in their field; coaching skill doesn't come along with the talent. Especially for really independent solo sports like this, and especially when Alex is such a unique freak, you would expect the opposite. What a cool thing for him to have cultivated that attitude. I also learned that youtube censors "die" out of their closed captions lmao e: like a really interesting compare & contrast is the new Tony Hawk documentary, Until the Wheels Fall Off. I totally recommend it in general, but it's especially interesting compared. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Skateboarding or weightlifting are really unlikely to kill you, but look at the Tony Hawk or Ronnie Coleman documentaries for super interesting insights into how much they can gently caress you up. It feels like Alex Honnold is at least avoiding injury better than that, although I guess we have to wait 20 years to find out. I thought while he was coaching him, the most interesting exchange was like: at our level, fatigue isn't a problem at all. Basically the only way you'd die is if you fainted. And there are lots of other situations when fainting suddenly would kill you, too. Hard to argue with that. Cojawfee posted:I skipped around in that video and the one guy said "if you get stuck, I can help you through it". loving how? You're both just clinging onto the side of a cliff. Then my hands got really sweaty and I turned it off.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:An old boss of mine lost two successive wealthy husbands to free diving. The FBI investigated looked pretty hard at her but in the end the dudes were clearly into the risk.
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That’s awful, what a total mess. How did Kaur end up alone? Did the sherpas make it back?
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Yeah it’s more “unwise extreme sports,” it’s never been about “this unknown billionaire got hit by a car, glory in his blood” if that’s the concern. We’ve had good conversations about Alone, rock climbing, cave diving, etc.
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May I direct the thread’s attention to Arctic Ascent, a new National Geographic series (on Disney+ or your parents’ cable). Alex Honnold, with climbers Hazel Findlay and Mikey Schaefer, lead a group up a huge fuckoff rock wall in Greenland to do climate science. It’s more responsible than Free Solo in that they’re roped in and belaying each other. Everything else about the location and specifics is way worse, like having to walk 100 miles to even get to the mountain, avoiding murder icicles and polar bears, and dealing with lovely crumbling rock the whole climb.
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Bip Roberts posted:"To do climate science" lol
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gohuskies posted:Climate scientists do need ice samples from deep in old ice. I've never heard about them needing it from high up a cliff. Realistically, I think we know the main benefit to climate science is the number of eyes on the documentary plus whatever level of funding NatGeo was involved in. They did take the opportunity to do some neat and hopefully useful stuff on the way, like using LIDAR to detect the depth of ice, dropping off a robot that measures water stats, and taking time-lapse photography to see how fast the ice pack is moving. Another interesting thing is that as soon as Honnold showed up, I was like “holy poo poo he looks so old now, how old is he???” and it turns out he’s my age 
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:was the climbing cool>?
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Eeyo posted:I watched the first episode of the Greenland climbing thing. I figure a helicopter isn’t a great plan for the same reasons it isn’t on Everest? That said, they’re definitely misleading in the beginning about the accessibility, how they have to walk 100 miles to get to the big cliff…but then at the base of the big cliff, they’re met by supply boats
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You might be able to guess I’m working through National Geographic documentaries when I recommend The Mission. I don’t know if it quite fits this thread, but it involves a fairly wealthy young American preparing but not nearly enough for an unwise trip to an exotic locale, getting himself killed immediately, and disrespecting indigenous people. However, it does not have snow or altitude, so ymmv. This is about the evangelical Christian kid who decided that he was going to convert the Sentinelese people, aka the tribe that remains minimally contacted because (for good reason) they kill almost everyone who tries. It’s a little more complex than the news stories that came out at the time (2018), but the main reason to recommend it is the extremely relevant interviews they managed to get. https://films.nationalgeographic.com/the-mission
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Leperflesh posted:religions that force youth to go proselytize are cults and the people who are brainwashed by them are victims and that uncontacted tribe committed murder, albeit of a tresspasser, so no worse than the castle doctrine assholes all over rural america They also believe — and I wish the documentary had gotten more into this — that you can be a missionary but not in a colonialist way. I don’t even know what that would look like, but it would be interesting to hear more about their concepts. I also think it adds an interesting layer of complication that he was half Chinese (first gen) and obviously wouldn’t have grown up in a Christian context if not for western Christians/evangelicals/colonialists in China at some point. Potato Salad posted:I'm sorry, is the concept there that you get a free pass to genocide a pre-contact civilization on the basis of your race? Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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George H.W. oval office posted:There’s a dude in the film that hung out in the jungle for decades doing missionary work and then out of the blue has a realization what am I doing??? and completely loses his faith. It owns.
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McSpanky posted:Far be it from me to interrupt a smug atheist slamfest, but is the cutting revelation at work here "I don't believe in things I haven't personally witnessed"? It’s a really interesting mindset, part of their general lack of focus on the past and the future. Definitely recommend the guy’s memoir, Don’t Sleep, There Are Snakes. While the whole missionary thing didn’t work out so great, I wouldn’t say his life was wasted. He’s done a ton of work on very rare languages, documenting them, developing orthographies, becoming the first outside speaker of Piraha, etc. He’s very famous in linguistics circles, is a college professor, and has an enjoyable feud with Chomsky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Everett Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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Of course not, that’s why we have the concepts of eyewitness, or gossip, or hearsay. We value it to a degree that it seems obvious, which is why McSpanky was like “no duh.” The difference is we also believe in, say, the Civil War, and Charlemagne. Even oral cultures do this — Maori people know when their ancestors arrived in New Zealand and can even tell you which boat they sailed on…in 1300. African cultures have/had extensive oral history traditions, so do native Americans, the Greeks, you name it. Pirahas aren’t buying that, past like one or two levels of transmission.
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jemand posted:Could we even have any way to know that the Piraha didn't have a big social debate in 1910, maybe in reaction to a horrific disease event or something, and deliberately decide to drop a thousand year oral tradition? quote:“On the other hand, even if such trauma were responsible for cultural change, after a certain amount of time we would have to describe the culture in its current state. England’s current state is undoubtedly a result of earlier stages, but it can no longer be described in terms of the code of chivalry. The evidence from records of the Mura and Pirahă for nearly three hundred years since contact was first made in 1714 strongly supports the conclusion that Pirahă culture has changed little since contact with Europeans.” Btw, it’s not that they don’t count past 3, it’s that they don’t count period. They don’t even have a “one, two, many” system like some other cultures do. They also don’t just disbelieve history — they wouldn’t believe in, say, Angkor Wat or lions unless you, a trusted teller, had yourself seen them. But if you did see something, they seem pretty willing to accept that, say, America and skyscrapers exist. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Cactus Ghost posted:iirc the first solid evidence we have of counting comes after agriculture. it may just be that without a surplus to trade with a nonfamily outgroup, numbers aren't necessary. there's "enough" and "not enough" and thats... enough. quote:One of the first was the apparent lack of counting and numbers. At first I thought that the Pirahăs had the numbers one, two, and “many,” a common enough system around the world. But I realized that what I and previous workers thought were numbers were only relative quantities. I began to notice this when the Pirahăs asked me when the plane was coming again, a question they enjoy asking, I eventually realized, because they find it nearly magical that I seem to know the day that the plane is arriving. Anyone who’s interested, I’m begging you to at least get this book from your library Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:fascinating stuff. would make a great gbs thread If anyone actually reads the book, DM me and we can try to set up a thread in the Book Barn I guess
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Leperflesh posted:I do not know if Piraha do that, mind you. woke kaczynski posted:I'm borrowing it from the library because of this discussion if it's any consolation
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I wondered about that too, but I think they would be impressed even if he just said “it’s definitely not coming today” or “it’s coming after lunch today”
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