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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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dan finn at jacobin is very angry about it all

The Labour Antisemitism Report Has Always Been a Politically Motivated Travesty

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/10/labour-antisemitism-report-ehrc-corbyn-commission

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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I like twitter but i explicitly don't use it to follow news or politics. I follow a ton of authors, especially pocs and indigenous folks, bird science academics, other science-y stuff, etc. occasionally politics pops up because people are human but by and large it's been pretty nice.

this is only after i deleted everyone i follow and built up lists of interesting people, though, and it also requires maintenance for when people get weird. but yeah it's mostly a hole based on embeds i see all the time.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Lol a rt of this did make it onto my feed and I unfollowed the ‘historian’ who rt’d it.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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sassassin posted:

Needs to lay off the booze.

you know i thought the cartoon with the head was a bit much in terms of how they drew him but now

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Regarde Aduck posted:

I'd be sympathetic with the anti-lockdown people if hospitals weren't a thing. Like we can all just ignore the dead and dying but the health system will fill up and then fail and then the knock on effects will hit everyone. It doesn't even make pragmatic sense. If you don't want society to slowly collapse the pandemic must be controlled. The hospitals must be protected. They can keep building extra hospitals but we don't have infinite staff. Which means we either control it or we start just arbitrarily killing infected, or leaving them to die at home which amounts to the same thing. And I worry that the 'lets go back to normal' crowd absolutely are up for a world where severe covid cases mean you get murdered in order to protect normality and the economy.

this is what i find so frustrating here. people just ignore it sometimes and if you bring it up they accuse you of being unsympathetic to what it must be like for them to not be able to drink beers with friends (a literal argument).

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Lol no that's real, she's a z list comedy actress and noted bully. Like the only person who was on Big Train and wasn't offered a part in any Simon Pegg films. Her husband ate potpourri in a restaurant and it made the papers.

she's also (along with fellow garbage person rachel riley) sued a woman for re-tweeting a blog post:

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/help-jane-heybroek/

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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serious gaylord posted:

Not only would a 2nd lockdown not work if they continue to let kids go to school, it will further erode trust in the government and when the necessary 3rd lockdown happens, because it will unless a vaccine arrives, you'll get stuff like whats happening in spain.

https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1322306670471663616

in re school, i know, different country and all, but take a look at how much schools can contribute to spread (because i am constantly hearing how they aren't)



of the more than 6000 total cases in ottawa, 40% of the spread is from schools. 20% elsewhere. i understand that schooling is important but surely there is middle ground we could all be walking?

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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namesake posted:

Keeping schools open frees the parents to work in some capacity though. What exactly is forced shut, what protections are given to the workers in shuttered industries and how many industries are given a pass are vital to whether this is going to work or if we're throwing more lives into the volcano in pursuit of Number.

oh for sure, and i get why there is a need for something, but like i said, i feel like there's probably a middle ground here. regardless of location, school closures should, imo, be on the table for at least regional lockdowns.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Guavanaut posted:

You've made me imagine someone pooping like a cold oil press now and I don't like it.

oh i see you read /r/carnivore

edit: this is the worst snipe, here's my adorable bird

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Necrothatcher posted:

pushing back the start of Strictly Come Dancing

oh the horror

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Payndz posted:

gently caress's sake. My wife's van was stolen earlier this year (and was promptly used in several high-end bike thefts), and to add insult to injury she then got a ticket from a private parking company because it was left in the grounds of some luxury flats. She told them the circumstances, gave them the police crime number as evidence of the date of the theft, and thought that was the end of it. Nope: she's now had a letter (claiming she hadn't responded to the original bill) threatening a visit from a "doorstep collection agency" if she doesn't pay up double the original amount, and when she called again to explain was verbally abused and basically told "we don't give a poo poo that it was stolen, pay us or go to court."

Anyone had experience dealing with these kinds of parasites?

do they actually have any legal grounds to collect here, or is it a case where they get increasingly threatening because that's literally all they can do

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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stev posted:

I know the answer is lol England but how are these companies not routinely shut down and the responsible parties inprisoned/fined? All it should really take is one person refusing to pay and reporting harassment for the whole enterprise to come under scrutiny.

lol capitalism more like, as this sort of scum is definitely not limited to england. there's constantly a row here about a company called impark which runs all of these awful private parking lots, enforced, sometimes, by a literal organized crime ring of tow truck drivers (they tried to assassinate the lawyer taking them to task, forcing her to flee the country for months; when she returned, the cops were basically like, eh, just drop your case).

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Private Speech posted:

Here's the buried lede in what Jaeluni posted, for tl;dr purposes:


And yes this is a reason for a lenient sentence, because, well, uhh.

listen affluenza is a serious disease. treating it requires a sense of decency and respect, since the only cure is

:guillotine:

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Borrovan posted:

Gf & I are thinking of staying up for at least a few hours of the results, where do the cool goons hang out if we want some non-lib analysis? Guessing the US threads are a bit crowded

they are but they're pretty actively good about punishing hot lib takes in both the 2020 gen elec thread and the uspol threads. don't expect much of a call before 10 or 11 eastern at the earliest.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Lobster God posted:

If it's anything other than a total landslide I can see it dragging out like 2000. I can't see Trump being a gracious loser and the Republicans have been laying the groundwork for a contested result for months.

i expect if not a landslide, then an overwhelming result that leaves little room for doubt. not because i feel overconfident like in 2016 but because the same signs that pointed to trouble for clinton in 2016 are very seriously pointing to huge, huge trouble for trump. of course he'll do what he can to cast doubt on the result but even with the large mail-in vote this year i expect an early result because some of the key battleground states like NC and FL have already been counting their mail-in ballots, and will be able to give a result that night.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

No poo poo pal.

Except I guess they also kind of know when to give a gently caress cos theres a whole industry designed to tell them when its economically viable to actually follow the rules or not.


I think we can only increase regulation on cakes here. British bake off has a lot to answer for.

perfidious albion has much to answer for indeed but you can take bake off from my cold dead flour-covered hands

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Niric posted:

Depressingly, closing the schools is making a lot of awful poo poo go unnoticed that normally gets a light shone on it by teachers/attendance records/etc. There are a lot of kids who's only experience good quality of socialisation, stimulation and formal & informal education comes in and around school. Like learnincurve is getting at I'm a bit surprised at all the UKMTers who are giving off the impression that they think closing schools is no big deal and that keeping them open is entirely predicated on allowing people out to work with no other factors to be considered

Like Sanford I'm not even sure what point I'm making and I'm not sure that keeping schools open is the right decision, but I'm pretty disappointed at the really simplistic picture some people are drawing here

I don’t think most people who post or read in this thread think it should just be close down all schools. It needs to be part of a massive benefits and support package, too. But neither will happen here or there, it seems.

In terms of when you can expect the election to be called there, I’d wager you’ll have a very good idea of where it’s at by 3am or so. It’s absolutely not worth staying up for as there will be plenty of gnashing of teeth the day after. I’m not arrogant about the outcome like in 2016 but I’m pretty optimistic as all the warning signs that Clinton had in 2016, trump has now, literally. Plus tonight he’s been going around complaining about losing and blaming his base, which is hilarious.

On the other hand you do have armed gangs of roving thugs with MAGAt flags harassing anyone that has a blm sign or sticker or might loom suspiciously tan

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

^^^ Worth clicking for the punchline.

Is that piers morgan's son?

yes. look at the fucker from 2016




what a pus-filled little cum bubble he is


https://twitter.com/spencermorgan93/status/1323269486846377987?s=21

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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OwlFancier posted:

Cancel exams, give everyone As, tell people they can send their kids to school or not, spend the time letting teachers teach whatever they want.

Not the worst idea since it’s not like half of it matters for anything they’ll end up doing. And this isn’t a dumb poors line, just reality. for the tots, I mean, older kids can learn on their own pretty well.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Vigil for Virgil posted:

The biggest issue is a lot of parents can't be home to look after kids. So there's a huge problem there, as we aren't in full "March esque" lockdown where everyone is furloughed again.

I would be shocked if people who think schools should be closed don’t also think that a full lockdown without fake essential workers should be enforced

Just give everyone money and tell them to stay home ugh gently caress why are all these leaders such assholes

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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This isn’t difficult. The virus is not magic. If people stay home it dies out in a month. But that’s only if people stay home.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

What about when someone foreign comes here?

Like we could go on like this forever so I'll stop.

Are you serious or trolling? People coming in go onto quarantine or they get massive fines. This exact policy is working elsewhere.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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you have the general gist of things down.

look at obama's foreign policy "wins" if you want a preview of what a biden administration would be like. despite the fact that biden is not at all progressive i don't think his foreign policy would be any 'worse' than obama's (which is not to say that obama's was in any fashion much good).

a biden government will probably be less likely to push for punishing measures against the lgbtq communities, for example. but if you're looking for a marxist analysis of the situation, both parties serve capital and from that perspective won't allow much change, because change is abhorrent to the status quo (which capital loves). being pro-lgbtq is, these days, generally good for capital, so the democrats have the relative freedom to be nominally socially progressive. they remain in large part fiscally conservative from what i'm guessing is this thread's viewpoint.

Guavanaut posted:

Biden has promised to shut down any post-Brexit trade deal that breaks the Good Friday Agreement and risks Ireland, that's one thing.

he has to because the house already said that was a no-go, and congress can give itself veto power over trade deals when it cares to assert that kind of authority

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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ThomasPaine posted:

so lads I haven't been paying attention and I'm drunk, is the usa getting the poo poo fascist rapist or the the poo poo lib fascist enabling rapist?

lol nobody knows but it's certainly looking like 2016-2 at the moment

if it really does come down to pennsylvania we may not know for *days*

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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It is absolutely the case that America doesn’t feel kinship with each other but it’s more along an urban/rural divide than anything else. Democrats or those who might as well be flee the red countrysides and move into the cities. This leaves anyone who can’t stuck in MAGA world.

Every bit of media just reinforces this point of view, especially on the right. The democratic side of the left is constantly looking down their nose at the right and generally refers to them as nothing more than flyover areas because consciousness of the class struggle doesn’t inform any of their decisions. This is why Bernie was shunted aside in favour of Captain Senility (although Bernie made some terrible campaign decisions, too).

Meanwhile the right just gets madder and madder and takes malicious glee in serving up poo poo on a platter because, outside of all the political lies, they’re fine with eating poo poo as long as Democrats have to smell it.

Like, we literally have gangs of roving MAGAs running people off the road, threatening murder, and harassing others for disagreeing. That just doesn’t really happen on the left in the states (there are protests but not this sort of thing). It’s difficult to construct a scenario where it’s easy to reunite two groups like that.

As someone from a supremely red area, I don’t think any of these people on the right are as stupid as Democrats love to talk about, I just think they’re loving evil. I still want to vote for policies that improve their situation because what nobody ever wants to talk about is that we all win when we all win.


Edit: I’ll add that I think a huge part of the resentment and fear that develops on the right is because they are just never exposed to anyone different. Or if they are it’s a one time thing they can safely write off as some weird one-off. I didn’t meet anyone who wasn’t a standard white Christian American type of person, mostly white republicans, until I was like 12.

mediaphage fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Nov 4, 2020

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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There’s also a faint hope of forcing Collins into a runoff which I would live for tbh

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Can they both increase their vote share at the same time?

Yes because it looks like in some places the vote share of third parties went from minuscule to nonexistent.

Biden is likely going to win but it’s going to be a stagnant term as long as that loving turtle lich retains senate control

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if trump won but the house remains dem would the trade deal get blocked anyway?

i still think bidens going to win in any case unless there is supreme court shenanigans
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theoretically pelosi is very firmly against it but they are known capitulators at times so I wouldn’t hold my breath

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Jose posted:

bidens entire campaign was getting republicans to vote for him instead of trump and they went from 90% to trump in 2016 to 93% lol

This is exactly it. He had almost nothing to offer poc and went right at the racist white vote instead, and this is what happens. I mean we’ve seen in this thread now he’s told union men to gently caress off and told minorities to go vote for trump.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

He should take face lessons, like Thatcher took voice and hair lessons. Looking permanently shocked, surprised and about to burst into tears doesn't do it for me.

he can’t help the fact that he has resting rich face

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Communist Thoughts posted:

This comic annoys me coz the dem guy has an inconsistently drawn nose

Isn’t it only different in panel two where his eyes are shut and his head is tilted further in this direction?

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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in terms of cookery chat, i recommend finding whatever bird you can - small turkey, big chicken, whatever. butterfly it (sounds hard, isn't at all, i promise) squish it flat. rub butter and salt beneath the skin and cook it hot. it'll be done in 45 minutes. you can chop up veg and cook the bird by lying it over top, and that's two big parts all done. eat what you want, pull all the meat off of the rest, bag into usable portions. freeze what you won't eat over the next week. if you have a frost-free freezer, it'll be very good quality for a few weeks, if your freezer builds up frost, it'll last for months.

you can then boil / pressure cook the leftover bones and skin pieces for beautiful stock (which you can shred the meat into and toss in some of your extra veg later on for free soup). you can also turn some stock into gravy, lay the meat and veg into a pie crust, pour the gravy on top, and you have pie.

there are a million ways to use leftovers so if you're up for it, don't just buy the breast because it's the boringest part and you'll also miss out on all these extras.

Guavanaut posted:

Stuffing mix is much nicer tho, and you can freeze it. It's not so nice reheated from frozen, but it's on par with the premade balls.

i'd make stuffing, form it into balls, and freeze before cooking. then you can pull them out and cook them and they'll be basically as good as cooking anything fresh.


Guavanaut posted:


If you heat it slowly enough they don't even notice.

just pull on the tie very hard please. and hold it under.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

When I was in Cairo, an Italian friend invited me over for Xmas along with her Egyptian husband's family, so I went - imagining turkey and being greeted with huge piles of fish - aargh - and all the conversation in arabic so I had to work very hard to keep up!

i feel you, when i was going to school in france, the family i was living with was originally from chile so they had a dinner party one night where everybody basically spoke spanish the whole time and i only ever understand when my name was called

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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andrew yang is an idiot techbro wannabe but hilarious that a) mooch's phrasing suggests ending all help to "our people" and b) he picked the one candidate who solidly pushed for some form of ubi to make this point to???

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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these days i take small spuds, fork them, microwave for five minutes to cook through, then press down with a glass to slightly squish. toss with oil and salt and roast. easy, no mess perfection

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Bobstar posted:

Explain :stare:

I discovered we have our first frostful freezer ever when the door wouldn't shut and I had to defrost it. Are you telling me the more annoying freezer's better for the food?

correct. the feature that helps keep it from building up frost is bad for food quality. by continuously removing frost build-up, you keep the vapour pressure of the freezer cabinet low, increasing the rate at which water is driven out of your food and sublimates. this is why older frozen products will often take on a dried or shriveled look.

you can mitigate this to some extent (sometimes a great extent)with excellent seals and vacuum packaging, etc., but for long-term storage past a month or two, classic old-style freezers, especially chest freezers, are the way to go.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

My father's only skill in the kitchen is cracking two eggs at once.

I have a very clear memory of my late father attempting to make squirrel gravy and ending up with just like. A softball sized orb of gravy in he middle of the skillet.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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WhatEvil posted:

Stuffing mix doesn't appear to be a thing in Canada so I made my own stuffing for Canadian Thanksgiving this year. First time I've done it and it was really good, and SUPER easy:

https://www.peterpauper.com/blog/thanksgiving-retro-recipe-bread-crumb-stuffing/

Only thing is you need to find or make toasted breadcrumbs which are not as easy to buy in the UK from what I remember (very easy to make though).


So yeah, just finely chop the onion, add herbs, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper, poultry seasoning (optional tbh), mix it all together, pour in melted butter and stock til it's the right consistency to form into balls, then whack it in the oven til it's nice and browned on the outside. You can use different herbs or e.g. add garlic or whatever if you want.

I did this, except I actually just eyeballed the amount of breadcrumbs, butter and stock, and I used fresh rosemary instead of sage and parsley because it's what i had. Came out amazing - much better than dry mix stuff, I think due to the fresh onion.

i'm not sure where you shop but stuffing mix is sold in literally every normal grocery store in the country i've been in

that said you should always make your own because it's dead simple

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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OwlFancier posted:

It would be very weird IMO if a commonwealth country did not have stuffing mix.

Also I had sage ice cream once and it was very strange.

yeah also include the US in that

one issue is just op may see brands they're unfamiliar with

the biggest brand is called "stove top" here too afaik

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stove_Top_stuffing

speaking of commonwealth countries and weird ice creams, i embarrassed my spouse here by standing in line and asking what all these "classic" canadian flavours were one time.

like: tiger tail. it's orange and black licorice ice cream swirled together.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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OwlFancier posted:

Frankly I'm disgusted that they only sell gram flour, how the hell are you supposed to make an imperial recipe with metric flour?

just kill a bunch of people in the country you got it from

another terrible snype but this is grace, she just came home last night to hopefully one day be alex's girlfriend

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I wonder what half-baked goods could be made with pulverized graun. Hm. Soft-centre rolls, left crumble, flakey pastry.

Basically only white bread

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