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*Burrow makes one dumb rookie mistake week one* TFF: drat he looks awesome lets see more *Herbert makes one dumb rookie mistake his first start* TFF: drat smoke and mirrors, bench him
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SHOAH NUFF posted:The Chiefs struggled because they couldn’t tackle anyone, anyone!! I want to see how many missed tackles came out from that game I love that he's back and still really like him but Juan Thornhill is part of this problem.
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Sep 21, 2020 22:38
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a neat cape posted:*Burrow makes one dumb rookie mistake week one*
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Better Than You posted:Burrow would have ran for the first down He had the option week 1 and threw a stupid pick to melvin ingram
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Sep 21, 2020 22:40
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Didn't see that game. I recant 
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Sep 21, 2020 22:43
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a neat cape posted:He had the option week 1 and threw a stupid pick to melvin ingram Looked this up to make sure I wasn't going crazy and these things are absolutely not on the same level. Burrow might have made it because he's an incredible athlete but it wasn't even close to sure, Herbert pulled up two yards before the marker with no one in the area and threw a duck back across the field that hung in the air forever. Both really dumb, one is clearly dumber. I mean, I say this as a guy who's been on record saying Herbert should play? e: the Bad Burrow play. The Herbert pick. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Sep 21, 2020 |
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Sep 21, 2020 22:45
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a neat cape posted:*Burrow makes one dumb rookie mistake week one* Burrow has been getting first team reps all summer and has been preparing to start since being drafted. It's a different situation considering the Bengals don't have anybody to put in front of Burrow and never did whereas the Chargers always planned for Herbert to sit as long as possible. Personally I'm not saying it's smoke and mirrors at all, in fact it was an amazing debut, but I am saying the coaches probably know better than us how ready he is. And there were some indications that he could use more practice with the first team despite all the good things he did do in the game
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Sep 21, 2020 22:46
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Grittybeard posted:I love that he's back and still really like him but Juan Thornhill is part of this problem. Yeah he missed a lot of them, along with usual culprit Sorensen who after his playoff heroics has earned a pass. I guess he’s rusty from the injury. The linebackers all missed so many tackles as well. Only Mathieu can reliably tackle. Why is it so hard for all defensive coaches to teach tackling like Seattle/Carroll does?
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Sep 21, 2020 22:52
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Play posted:Burrow has been getting first team reps all summer and has been preparing to start since being drafted. It's a different situation considering the Bengals don't have anybody to put in front of Burrow and never did whereas the Chargers always planned for Herbert to sit as long as possible. How does he get practice with the first team if you're starting tyrod and he takes the first team reps
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Sep 21, 2020 22:54
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a neat cape posted:How does he get practice with the first team if you're starting tyrod and he takes the first team reps You wait until next year, like the rest of the Chargers franchise was planning on doing.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:02
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OxySnake posted:You wait until next year, like the rest of the Chargers franchise was planning on doing. Seems dumb
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I think Herbert won't look as good as he did Sunday every game if he becomes your starter. He may lose you a few games. But he's also going to develop faster if you stick with him. He may even win you a few games and Tyrod definitely isn't doing that.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:05
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I think burrow should sit a year too, if only so Cincinnati can find someone to block so burrow doesn't die.
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Sep 21, 2020 23:46
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Herbert is definitely better than Tyrod but tbh I'd probably feel better if Mahomes wasn't playing during hellplague deathseason and he definitely doesn't need the time off so if you're handed the opportunity to not get your rising star QB murdered during the season with the biggest asterisk on it maybe take the out you're given
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wandler20 posted:You've also got to consider the Chiefs had no idea Herbert was playing and didn't prepare at all for him. And now there's tape on him, which there was none of before because he didn't even get to play in a preseason. I think Lynn is probably doing the right thing here. I've never really bought this. This new QB, do you think he's gonna throw the ball or what coach? Dunno, we don't have any tape on him, what if tunnels under the field for 1st downs?!! *PANICS*
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Sep 22, 2020 00:33
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I've never really bought this. That's willfully going to the ground, the play would be blown dead.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:37
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I've never really bought this. QBs definitely have tendencies that show up on tape and that teams scheme for. Plus just knowing what a guys natural capabilities are what kind of throws he’s capable of making.
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Sep 22, 2020 01:51
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Isn't the playbook for dealing with rookie qb's pretty much just pressure pressure pressure and more pressure anyway? I doubt that would change with some preseason games or even if he had started in week 1.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:QBs definitely have tendencies that show up on tape and that teams scheme for. Plus just knowing what a guys natural capabilities are what kind of throws he’s capable of making. Trubisky struggling with throws to the left his rookie year comes to mind. Of course that’s something a coach is going to notice on tape and take advantage of come game time.
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Sep 22, 2020 03:15
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Though Trubs has had games were he throws incredibly well so on a game by game basis it probably isn’t useful. Specifically as the league has become QB friendly for raw stats
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Sep 22, 2020 04:11
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Imagine questioning Derek Carr.
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Sep 22, 2020 04:23
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Holy loving poo poo what
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Sep 22, 2020 04:26
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Always ice your kicker
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Sep 22, 2020 04:26
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Strobe posted:I am fully here for the AFC West Division of Kicking Excellence.
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Sep 22, 2020 04:32
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Holy loving poo poo what Pooo Brees I know the defense was what completely poo poo the bed, but comeon, I'm gonna say it.
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Sep 22, 2020 04:32
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Good.
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Sep 22, 2020 04:33
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da, and I cannot possibly stress this enough, raidaaaaaaaas
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Sep 22, 2020 04:34
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Saints would have had 2:30 and a timeout if not for a completely needless DPI too
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Sep 22, 2020 04:34
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Kalli posted:Pooo Brees This is one of those games where the stats don't tell the story. 26/38 for 312 is what happened, but it sure as hell wasn't a dangerous 300 yard game. Intruder posted:Saints would have had 2:30 and a timeout if not for a completely needless DPI too That awful, awful interception at the end of the first half too.
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Sep 22, 2020 04:37
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Intruder posted:Saints would have had 2:30 and a timeout if not for a completely needless DPI too yeah that was a complete killer
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Sep 22, 2020 04:38
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The Raiders were really trying to give the game back too, it was pretty wild. Just completely lifeless runs, and prevent defense.
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Sep 22, 2020 04:40
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I wanna see the Raiders in the conference round at least.
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https://twitter.com/LeighMayock/status/1308249177596375041
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Lol did the Saints lose to the Raiders?!?
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How much of those 300 passing yards are after the catch? That one late pass to Sanders seemed like the longest one
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Guze posted:How much of those 300 passing yards are after the catch? That one late pass to Sanders seemed like the longest one Toward the end of the game someone posted that he'd completed Which to be fair a lot of YAC is normal for him, but most of this was the Raiders D being pretty bad themselves rather than picking the perfect target and hitting them in stride or whatever. e: vv--yeah that was what I was thinking of. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Sep 22, 2020 04:49
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Guze posted:How much of those 300 passing yards are after the catch? That one late pass to Sanders seemed like the longest one A lot of them. https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1308241606861094912 IIRC, this was before their last drive or two.
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Its Rinaldo posted:Lol did the Saints lose to the Raiders?!? They sure as poo poo did
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a neat cape posted:How does he get practice with the first team if you're starting tyrod and he takes the first team reps I'm sure they've been working him in regularly since camp started, but yeah there are positives and negatives from sitting rookie QBs for sure. Luckily, Herbert will get plenty of first team reps in his career if he's actually a thing. I get your point though, the real question is whether this is Anthony Lynn being ridiculously conservative or whether Herbert really, truly isn't ready . A question we can't really answer with what we know Grittybeard posted:This is one of those games where the stats don't tell the story. 26/38 for 312 is what happened, but it sure as hell wasn't a dangerous 300 yard game. Yeah Brees was major garbo. Basically all his yards came after the catch, on short passes and crossing routes and swing passes and screens and such. Looked totally afraid to throw it downfield at all. I wouldn't put it past him to shape up big time but right now he's looking cooked That INT to some big chungus run-stuffing linebacker was crazy too. Just got pressured at his feet and threw it right to him
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