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Servetus posted:It could also mean "That's a load of Bollocks, you're bluffing". It's quite an ambiguous word. Nuts! They sent an active ping, they know we're here, they know we found them and this isn't a chance discovery. It's either capture or death, although I assume we give them the chance to surrender and assurances that etc etc etc.
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Kodos666 posted:Everyone on the sonar would know how hopelessly outmatched they were. They had been located in what they believed was a perfect hiding-place, basically impossible to find with pre-war equipment, MAD, active or passive sonar and even SOKS. They were ambushed by a hostile sub, which snuck up basically to point-blank-range and called them by telephone. When they went active, they saw a whole squadron waiting for them. They can't be that indoctrinated to mindlessly commit suicide, without even the slightest chance of even striking back. Pretty much. I think the only question they had to decide among themselves was whether to scuttle themselves, or comply.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I wonder if there is a way to exploit this? Assuming, of course, that it's legitimate intel and not a lie intended to bolster the morale of the crew (captain only?) of the Revenge. It's a lie, they just wanted to be sure that the missiles would be launched to catch everyone at the conference. Z the IVth posted:It's horseshoe crab blood. To detect contaminants. I actually hope this is the answer.
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NewMars posted:But... do we really want to make a surveillance state?  100% this becomes self justified as a hunt for the rest of GLADIO and for the queen, whether or not they still effectively exist. Meanwhile, they also become useful for political negotiations and to ensure compliance with treaties, with preventing any potential TN-specific terrorism (even if non nuclear, I imagine sorium still burns very well), and so on and so forth. I like the utopian idealism but this just feels like wishful thinking.
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atelier morgan posted:While there are no extant examples in hellworld it is not theoretically impossible to have an intelligence apparatus that is actually concerned with real threats rather than running drug rings and pedophilia rackets There are absolutely intelligence apparatuses that are concerned with real threats to their own power.
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Pacho posted:Interkosmos 3/1 Never Forget This is absolutely going to get turned into a justification. I'm just glad that Japan appears to have seen which side of their bread has butter, and which side is glass.
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quote:There are twenty-eight registered human settlements on the Moon. 1.59 million people officially live there. About 1.55 million of them are in the sprawling chaos of Lunagrad itself, located just south of Tycho crater That's a 40,000, not 400,000 difference. Is it supposed to be 1.19 in lunagrad?
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NewMars posted:As for carter I honestly can't get behind military action against him: he's a very tired man and it's kind of like kicking an old dog. I don't see why we would even need military action against him. If we can show we can provide people a good quality of life and a fair shake by joining us it seems like he would jump at the chance.
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Mister Bates posted:Our prime suspect is currently Mikhail Gorbachev. I'm gonna need some in universe reasoning for this, AIUI he didn't realize that the West was so far ahead until a state visit to the US, which was the reason he decided communism wasn't working. I know he was a reformer, but working for something like GLADIO seems way out of left field, especially in the timeline the west has specifically lost the ideological war. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Pirate Radar posted:God, I've never wanted anything more. Seriously, I'm not sure if this is actually supposed to be a negative or what
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Communist Zombie posted:include Che Guevara Hold on, I thought the divergence point was in 68? Are we allowing for Creative License at other points?
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I'm sure it's fine, I'm just confused on whether there's a time point we should accept as "definitive" or if we can just minor fluff whatever. Che not getting effectively sent to die by Castro would have had pretty big ramifications.
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Kitfox88 posted:That doesn't mean he can't be present! Hey, if anything is possible with TN materials...
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Proposal to formalize this. Amend the legislation for researcher assignments: Researchers MAY be tasked with work outside of their fields if there is no relevant work within their fields to be tasked with, and that they SHOULD be retasked when that situation changes. Deviation shall require written justification within 48 hours.
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The Lone Badger posted:The Safe Skies Act proposes that weapons be forbidden from being placed in space, with an exception for small numbers of handheld devices for police work. These horrible 'railguns' will not sit in orbit to menace the nations below, nor will there be a new colonialism with space-gunboats imposing terms on independant habitats. gesticulates wildly in the general direction of the Roswell spacecraft
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Proxy voting for whatever makes our fully automated space communism more luxurious and or gay
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We've gotten trains, which as far as I understand it is the Goon Communism End-Game, so I'm not sure why you're so insistent about this.
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Mister Bates posted:Their nuclear arsenal is the one ace remaining in their deck. At this point, our estimates are that they have at least one dozen warheads in the 100+ kiloton range, and that they can deliver them via truck-launched IRBM (propelled by sorium-liquid oxygen rockets, much like your own earliest TNE engine designs) virtually anywhere in the Middle East, North Africa, Europe, or West Asia. Neutralizing this arsenal will be necessary if any permanent solution to the Israeli issue is to be achieved. Oh hey, it's Space North Korea. The problem is that this arsenal is, as far as they're concerned, the only thing still keeping them alive. The real problem is finding a way to convince them that it's safe to do this, when their entire history is mired in conflict for ethnic / religious reasons. Any treaty with their neighbors isn't worth the paper it's been signed on as far as they're concerned, so they need a means of deterrence that doesn't involve relying on others. Much like with actual DPRK, turns out the solution here isn't easy. We could potentially use our weapons, including a railgun spacecraft to pre-emptively strike at their launchers. Our FESTER equipment would probably let us pinpoint those targets with ease. A pre-emptive strike opens up a whole can of worms that not unjustly places us in the position of bully at best, imperialist at worst. I suspect we might be able to strong arm them into accepting "peacekeeping" troops to guarantee their existence, but that's a whole other can of worms.
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Serf posted:In all seriousness, maybe I misunderstood what the plan was. I thought our railguns were for shooting down nukes before they could detonate. I think the problem is that, being IRBMs with a sorium fuel source, they may reach their destinations before we even realize they're in the air. The shuttle that nuked the shipyards was on a heavy lift orbiter, and wasn't really built for speed. Plop a meson base or five down when we get them, for maximum
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quote:a deployment time of less than three months (to allow for defensive and short-ranged patrol vessels) How does Aurora handle refits? If we wanted to have a wartime variant with more maintenance spares, is it possible to refit these into a wartime variant, or is it too time consuming / expensive to bother?
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Crazycryodude posted:We can't give GLADIO members the anti-GLADIO medal. Refusing to participate in the murder of millions of people is the bare minimum expectation, not something we hand out Comintern medals to enemy combatants for. The crew of the Revenge are enemy combatants that we took as prisoners of war at gun(torpedo?)point, don't shoot them all and dump them in a ditch obviously but they also don't deserve any special treatment or fancy medals. Yeah, I'm not sure we should be awarding medals for not killing yourself in the name of war crimes you were ordered to commit for a nation that no longer existed, laudable as that is
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mossyfisk posted:Oh no, that isn't a fighter carrier. It's a mobile cargo transfer hub currently filled with short-ranged patrol vessels. Stop putting your Honor Harrington into my Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism
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Do colonies require consuming any materials for upkeep, or are they effectively self sustaining even without mines & industry? Will it eventually grow beyond the sustainable levels for infrastructure and start rioting? Also, as cute as deploying a bunch of tiny outposts in the middle of nowhere sounds, I'm not really sure what the actual point of it is supposed to be. If it's supposed to be a series of arks, I'm not sure how useful they would be without any means of growing themselves or going elsewhere. People generally move to places because there's opportunity, but I'm not seeing what opportunity you get on a mined out rock; it sounds more like a prison.
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What's interesting is that we didn't seem to notice the TN deposit that was curiously not phased into a different dimension, while sitting on the sea floor, from our sensor equipment. Is it possible for us to use our sensors such as the FESTER platforms to actually look for TN materials where there ought not to be any?Kodos666 posted:Seconded This requires revealing the existence of FESTER to the world at large, something that the capitalist die hard forces in GLADIO haven't figured out the existence of yet. They may reason that we have some detection capabilities, but not the specifics. Their backs may be broken, but I would rather we be able to learn the fates of the rest of them than to learn that they've managed to quietly unload a platoon of marines onto Ascension Island via sub with a Fuel Air Bomb and a death wish. This platform should be leashed, but we still have plenty of reasons to use it without stooping to spying on domestic political enemies.
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Could we, now or eventually, have the ability to survey and locate all TN materials that are not mineable deposits? The Hawaiian recovery of a wrecked alien ship should be a little more shocking to us; unless they hit upon it through dumb luck, they already knew where to look. Why shouldn't we? Obviously, there's noise from the civilian uses of TN materials, but we can probably safely eliminate most populated areas. For that matter, being able to locate unexpected TN signatures in places where there should not be any has pretty clear intelligence gathering benefits. I would propose legislation suggesting this, but it's not clear if this actually works, or if Aurora just burped something up that had to be explained away. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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Communist Zombie posted:Proletarization of Debt act Yes, hello, NKVD?
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paragon1 posted:The headless government of Spirow Agnew must be brought to justice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2TL0GHSue0
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Mister Bates posted:Your teams do locate a crashed C-130 transport aircraft buried in the ice about 15 miles outside of the town, stripped down to bare hull with everything of value removed. The Advisory Council, when asked, cannot recall such an aircraft crashing there. The aircraft's markings identify it as belonging to a USAF squadron that defected to the Joint Chiefs after the Allegheny Uprising. It looks like it's been there a while. For those who aren't aware, this could be a reference to JD321, an LC130 that crashed on takeoff in 1971. Don't know if this is necessarily the same one.
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So is this the civilization advanced enough for interstellar space travel that they must have embraced communism, or the other one that must have embraced communism because of their ability to travel beyond their planet? And what does that say about the future of humanity?
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If they understood any of the language or data content that we dumped on them, we would have seen an expression of it. They responded to us in what is either their own language or their music, which means they likely understood the CONCEPTS of what we sent even if they don't know exactly what it means. I would recommend against any plan that involves just dumping more content into them. If we haven't yet, we should be building up a language that allows us to express large values more quickly, like base 2, then base 10 or base 16. Have we been / do we have evidence of more rapid data transmissions? It would help to be able to send more complex concepts more quickly. Send them Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, with the rough proportions of humans. We can give a symbol to the concept of Human, or at least Carbon Based Life. If we get beyond elements and into molecules, being able to communicate simple molecules like water would be good. Can we try to provide more abstract math concepts such as exponents and coordinates, distances like light seconds, then transmit the coordinates for Minerva, the earth, Mars, the sun, etc. Have an earth symbol when we reference earth, etc. Establish > and <, using the concepts of Sol is larger than Jupiter, Jupiter is larger than Neptune, Neptune is larger than earth, Earth is larger than Minerva or whatever. Then use the Human symbol to combine Human and Earth. Start giving concepts like Earth Human, Mars Human, Venus Human, Earth Human > Mars Human, rough population concept (Earth Human 1B, Mars Human 50k or whatever). Using this setup, I want us to at least be able to describe our solar system and where we are in it. STRONGLY consider not mentioning the aliens on ice or the human captives they had until we know more. It's also worth considering that the people we're talking to aren't necessarily going to be smart, with that being a relative term. As someone else mentioned, they might be a remnant base that no one has come for afterwards, so we might be talking to the equivalent of a sea going oil rig. The population there may be the equivalent of aging roughnecks, with a couple more clever entities left but no one who would make massive conceptual leaps. As such, we should try to keep it simple as much as possible until we can communicate better, and we know that it was actually Space Jimmy Buffett they sent us. E: winterwerefox posted:They have no Sorium fuel for their ships. Yeah, it's probably this. The craft they have are likely outside of their maintenance windows by decades, and may not have fuel. Or, they may simply feel that they have no place left to go with it. Double edit: While I'm sure everyone is hungry for information, I wouldn't rush questions about them beyond establishing things they know we know, like the position of Minerva. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Josef bugman posted:It's the "very not us" that gets me. I suspect that whilst sentient species may require communism to reach the stars, it might be that reaction can still creep in. It could be a way of differentiating between "not our faction" and "not our species," I don't know how we get the concept of factionalism across without some potential for a sudden and permanent loss in communication. Speaking of which, Mister Bates posted:October 11, 1985 Colors are just different wavelengths of light. This shouldn't be too hard; we can express the concept that we perceive between 350nm and 750nm (or whatever the frequency in Hz for that is, I assume we've agreed on some concept of time). We use RGB encoding typically, but we can easily use whichever values they prefer or need, or something like CYMK, assuming that our visible spectrum overlaps with theirs. If it does not, we may have to stick with grayscale. We can also, potentially, express the frequencies which at can perceive by hearing, which we can describe as oscillation + matter / gas How are we communicating data right now? I assume we are still using only one channel, half duplex. When we transmit, how fast is the data rate? Have we introduced error correction codes yet? Manchester encoding? Are there concepts they've introduced to us that we just don't understand yet? I'll admit that the zero/null location bit is strange, are they saying that they're from Minerva, or are they saying that they're all that's left? I strongly suggest we prioritize finding how to explain the cryo storage we found and the people within. We should also send a picture of a Roswell and ask if they are from the fourth planet, and if they are the danger there, or if it is something else completely. I second chemistry as another topic to touch on, simple chemistry is actually pretty straightforward to explain and communicate, though I don't know how TN elements would be represented in it. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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