THE VEGAN MEGATHREAD

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some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Oolb posted:

if you have money

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some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Oolb posted:

If you were to make biblical hell incarnate, it would pretty much look like a factory farm. Saying lol I live in hellworld is like quoting harry potter or some poo poo. Find pleasure that doesn't involve torturing innocents or get into BDSM.

So this is a bit, right? You're doing the stereotypical dickhead vegan loudmouth thing to own PETA or something

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some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

I think it's bad to kill animals so I'm as vegetarian as I can be while being poor as poo poo. I'll never be vegan though because vegan food is mad expensive and lentils are the devil's work

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some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I tried to go vegan but i had no idea how hard it was gonna be to stop eating coral

Coral is vegan, anyone who says otherwise is a shill for the ocean lobby

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some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Crumbskull posted:

legumes grains and vegetables are famously considerably more expensive than things like meat, cheese, fish etc

Do not condescend to me, American

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some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

endlessmonotony posted:

Heh, minced meat is cheaper than most legumes here. Capitalism!

Yeah same, and vegan substitutes for anything are completely unaffordable so going full time vegan would mean just completely abandoning the idea of dairy- soy milk for example is extortionately priced, oat and almond are worse, vegan cheese may as well not exist, it sucks

# ¿ Nov 4, 2020 00:37

some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Crumbskull posted:

, but the idea that in order to go vegan one MUST eat specialty processed replacement foods is pretty funny to me imo.

My take is that if you want to encourage people to eat vegan we need to come up with a better pushback against the very common perception that veganism means living in a yurt eating watery lentils than "yeah deal with it"

Crumbskull posted:

i;m British,

Even worse!!

# ¿ Nov 4, 2020 00:48

some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Crumbskull posted:

i wrote my bachelor's capstone paper on the fascist/nazi roots in the organic farming movement and was almost excommunicated from my sustainable ag program lmao

I'm extremely interested in hearing more about this

# ¿ Nov 4, 2020 02:44

some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Crumbskull posted:

its not as interesting as it sounds, there was just a HUGE overlap between early aristocrat organic advocates like (the extremely cool) lady balfour and also out and out blood and soil nationalist german guys who saw organic production methods (at this time largely conceived of as the stuff that guy who wrote that book about composting in china that I cant even think of the name of despite the fact that he is like the godfather of western org. farming[myu brain is full of hole[) as part and parcel with their political program of recreating a kind of cottage farmer based society where the Old Ways are The BEst Ways and the food should be as pure as the blood of the nation.

In the paper I argued that this reactionary tendency actually never went away and explains why so many boomer hippy generation back to the lander types ultimately ended up being reactionary or like, how modern woo woo western nation people will believe in crystal healing and race science at the same time. Basically ecological thinking has always had a pretty large contingent of people who are fascistic and I believe this is under reckoned with. Im trying to find the paper but it was years ago now

This all makes a lot of sense and there's always been a huge weird nostalgic element to fascism, whether you go eco or not seems to depends entirely on how far back consider "the good old days" to be

# ¿ Nov 5, 2020 00:38

some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

Bot 02 posted:

Not to be "that vegan", but veganism is more than just eating plants. It's a philosophy which acknowledges animals' rights not to be harmed and exploited, and eating a plant based diet is a subset of that philosophy, but it also means that you're not necessarily vegan just based on your diet if you don't also subscribe to the philosophy in other aspects of your life.

I'm considering becoming a full vegan because I oppose cruelty to animals and loving love gatekeeping, it really strengthens a movement

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