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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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A shiny new thread! Feels like it’s been a very long time.

Reminds me that it’s advent calendar season. This year mine is a different beer every day so I probably have to break the tradition of “open the calendar in the morning and eat the chocolate before breakfast” as applied to beer.

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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Jose posted:

Lol I knew I recognised her for being a massive racist from the name

https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1333691652993667072?s=19

They don’t speak English, so we’re either assuming that Helen speaks a variety of different languages to find out who they are voting for, or they’re enthusiastically just saying “Labour, yes, Labour” while giving the thumbs up like a Borat sketch.

Or - and this gets a bit crazy so hear me out -
she’s just making it all up.

Who to know, really.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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“This hasn’t been tested yet, there’s no way I’m going to take it.”

Mate, you used to buy pills from a bloke beside the bins behind Tesco who went by ‘Baz’; where has this new lack of trust in pharmaceuticals come from?

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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My local dentist told me they weren’t doing NHS treatment “due to COVID”, but those very same dentists could treat me privately if I wanted to pay. Just as bluntly as that.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

What do they think they are going to (re)gain by going back to offices?

Honestly, a lot of managers are just poo poo at actual managing. Because a lot of people (most?) are never actually taught how to manage, they're just promoted because they were good at their job - so the next step is generally to be given oversight of other people doing that job.

Except if you don't know what you're doing, it's very hard to do that remotely.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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quote:

People will not be able to pay to jump the coronavirus inoculation queue for many months, public health officials and companies insisted after the UK regulator became the first in Europe or North America to authorise a Covid-19 vaccine.

“I can say clearly and confidently that there are no plans to supply the private sector for the foreseeable future — no chance at all,” said Ben Osborn, Pfizer UK country manager, after the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency approved the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine on Wednesday.

“Equity is at the heart of our decision to supply only the NHS,” Mr Osborn added.

Health chiefs rule out private sector jumping vaccine queue https://on.ft.com/3qk0cvo

Article goes on to point out that even if private companies want the vaccine they’ll have to join the queue behind all of the countries which have preordered.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Don’t underestimate the number of people with a) extra time on their lives from not commuting or going out in the evenings and b) extra cash from not paying for travel and lunches.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Alarming amount of electricity knowledge in this thread, love it.

edit:

VVVVV gently caress.

Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Dec 5, 2020

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Niric posted:

Wait, what?

I had the same at Accenture - you get a certain amount of points per year and you can allocate them to other people as a ‘thank you’. I cashed mine in for Currys vouchers and bought a kenwood mixer.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Advent calendar chat:



That’s an Ivo Graham joke he’s nicked - who is the only comedian I can think of who actually went to Erin.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Those LSA glasses are lovely though. They’re far too expensive to buy for yourself, but as a gift? Hell yes.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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He's back, baby. In pog form.


Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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CSM posted:

Are people in this thread (and the UK in general) just resigned to brexit? Because there seems to be almost no discussion here, with you guys only days/weeks away from going off a cliff.

Are there any protests in the UK, is there any political opposition left? Because even Labour would now vote for brexit?

Honestly, there's nothing I feel we can do anymore. It's rolling off a cliff and just feels totally inevitable/wanted by the people in power. It's really, really poo poo.

I keep seeing twitter ads from the government saying 'Make sure your business is prepared for Brexit!', as if we actually know what'll be happening.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Have you moped about on a rooftop yet? That's next.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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People keep trying to find a pattern or logic but the problem is there isn't really one with this particular group of Tories because unlike Cameron, May and their lot these ones are just not very good at their jobs. They're not smart, they're not bright, they're lazy they're just.... not very good. They're only there because they picked the unpopular side that none of the competent ones went for (Brexit) and got lucky on that. They're just a bit poo poo, it's a waste of time to look for the logic, or the long game because they're just that pretty average lazy kid at school.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Games Workshop have started down the sensible path of becoming less litigious when it comes to enforcement of their IP although there's a massive way to go from where they started when they recognised that they could gain sales by being a bit laxer.


Oh, and Johnson was absolutely referring to a trade deal when he talked about the oven ready deal: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...l-a4291046.html. Also London is going into T3 end of next week.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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a pipe smoking dog posted:

This image just always baffles me. How did anyone ever consider this an optimal way to prepare and sell sandwiches?

There are still places around soho that sell sandwiches just like that. They’re behind the counter and you ask for what you want. Good for a lunch rush.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Did someone a million threads ago recommend Over The Garden Wall? I just binged s01 and it's quite fun.

I watched that when it came out - that's a perfect show to watch now. Lovely and light, nothing poo poo.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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I'm still constantly surprised that the period of cowboys as we know them was only 30 years - 1865 to 1895. From the amount of media/popular culture etc I'd have assumed it was so much longer.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Convex posted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSFWN2IS08H

quote:

(Reuters) - British ministers have warned supermarkets to stockpile food amid possibilities of a no-deal Brexit, with shortages feared as talks with the European Union remain deadlocked, The Sunday Times newspaper reported bit.ly/2W9lP3J.
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is set to take control of planning if Britain opts for no dealJohnson fails to negotiate "the easiest deal in history" and will chair an exit operations committee to prepare the response, the newspaper reported.
Ministers have told suppliers of medicines, medical devices and vaccines to stockpile six weeks’ worth at secure locations in the United Kingdom, the report added.

Oh cool

Cool, cool cool cool.

Man's a loving failure at everything he touches.

I wish the press would just actually say 'Johnson is poo poo at his job'. It's the big lie that everyone is ignoring, the man is just not good at what he tries to do.

And don't come in and say "what he wants to do is funnel money to his mates", he doesn't, he wants to be the big successful Churchill leader. He just isn't good at it.

Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Dec 13, 2020

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Communist Thoughts posted:

I think that's naive. The ideal that parliament is about something other than corruption and patronage can't survive contact with parliament and I don't think he has any misgivings about that.

Most tories know that's the case but think its childish and dangerous to want to change things since the corruption has worked for a long time so far.

Imo What he wants to do is funnel money to his mates and have some sort of legacy. Probably as an amusing footnote of this wacky lad who was PM for a bit.

I think it's probably a bit too real for him but he's completely insulated from consequences and the absolute worst outcome for him will be a lot of hagriographies about how he tried his best and saved the country from Corbyn.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's that the corruption etc is unexpected (to him), but it's that he's been completely useless at everything else as well. This is the guy who wrote a biography of Churchill - I think he wants his legacy to be a great leader - not a guy who was a bit of joke and failed at pretty much everything.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Betteridge's law of newspapers comes in here.

I don't even know how you'd do it? By tube station? No-one gives a poo poo about boroughs outside of the roadmen, and it's not like they'll be especially bothered about restrictions. Plus Camden is a massive Z1-6 wedge all the way down.

edit: also it's a great way to ensure the spread, surely? If you're in a T3 area so everything is shut, you can just nip over to the nearest T2 and go to a restaurant spread COVID.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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kecske posted:

what happens when my home borough is tier 2 and my workplace in a different borough which I have to travel to because key worker is tier 3?

*waffles in government*

Jan 1st, 1973. The UK enters the EU.

technically EEC, but that became the EU

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Cerv posted:

Hampstead station is on border both zone 2 & 3 and that's the furthest out in Camden. which borough are you thinking of?

I wouldn't mind if they designate the rest of London to Tier 3 and ban the plague ridden hordes from coming into Camden tbh

Whoops - I'm think of constituencies - Camden and Barnet runs zones 1-5.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Cerv posted:

John le Carré has died

gently caress :(

Oh, that really sucks. Off to meet his case officer for the final time. His loathing for Brexit and the people behind it was something to behold.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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The Perfect Element posted:

Yeah, gutted. Probably my favourite author of all time. One of those writers whose quality of work transcended beyond the genre in which he operated.

I dunno how Correct he necessarily was, given his background and the circles he moved in, but his books largely attempted to speak truth to power, and were overall nationally cynical enough that I don't think the government will mourn his passing too much.

I'm sure he wasn't especially Correct, but it's not like he came from Military and MP background like Fleming - wasn't his dad a literal con-man who ran with the Krays?

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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The BBC TV version of The Night Manager is absolutely excellent.Tom Hiddleston, Hugh Laurie, Olivia Colman, David Harewood, Tom Hollander. Also features a cameo by the man himself, so I figure it got his approval.

In that version I think that Pine (as played by Hiddleston) feels like how Le Carre must have felt when joining the service - not sure what's going on, dazzled by the glamour and knowing that he doesn't really fit.

Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Dec 14, 2020

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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therattle posted:

I don’t think the romance subplot worked especially well. It was almost too polished.


I don't even remember it, so.... yeah, guess it didn't work too well.

I do think that night manager is the best 'jumping off' point - because some of his stuff is really, really dense.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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forkboy84 posted:

Dunking on Sunny Hundal is like scoring into an empty net from 3 yards so instead I'll ask a more important question

Want to get a bottle of gin for my sister. My budget is extremely low (I have £20 and need £7 for the bus). I can maybe scrape together another £10 by digging through loose change. So let's say my budget is £20. I know as much about gin as I know about not running out of money just before Christmas so I'm looking for recommendations. How are Lidl or Aldi gin? Any other brands worth considering?

Christmas on a very tight budget loving sucks, especially when everyone who buys you thinks isn't working on such a tight budget. Great respect for my folks from when I was a kid.

Do you know what she likes? £20 is not an issue. As mentioned Tanqueray has plummeted in price to around £16 a bottle, and it's dragged quite a few down below the £20 mark! Here are a few other options.

If she likes Hendricks -> this is a good sub https://www.aldi.co.uk/harrison-gin/p/010208272026000
If she likes Bombay -> https://www.aldi.co.uk/topaz-blue-premium-gin/p/077090237381001

Apologies for amazon links, but they have good prices and if it saves you a bus fare... Opihr is spicy https://www.amazon.co.uk/Opihr-Oriental-Spiced-Gin-70/dp/B00N3VMDJY

BrewDog's is a bit different, and good at £20 https://www.amazon.co.uk/LoneWolf-London-Dry-Gin-70/dp/B07RL6C466/ They also do a lovely Lemon one https://www.amazon.co.uk/LoneWolf-Cloudy-Lemon-Gin-700/dp/B07X4B9VB5

And I've not tried this one, but Old Tom is a great style of gin, so it might well be worth a go! https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/p/classic-gin/hortus-old-tom-gin/p36150

But the absolute best bargain on the market at the minute is Asda selling Brooklyn for £25. It's a great, great bottle (and the actual bottle itself is also amazing) and it's a £33-35 gin normally (and still is everywhere else, I've no idea what Asda are doing)


VVV In that case you won't go wrong with Tanqueray (£16 at asda, morrisons, 18 at tesco) or Bombay Sapphire (£17 most places)

Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Dec 14, 2020

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Mano posted:

If you want, you can also do a gin yourself based on vodka. I've tried a bit bit this fall, but am not yet happy with it: they're all a bit too flavorful and none of them are remotely white.

If you’re infusing you’re generally going to end up with a yellow hue. You can filter through a Brita or chill and muslin cloth to take a bit of the colour out, but you’re not going to get near to the colourless that you get from distilling.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

For overnight pondering:

My almost-5-year old great-niece wants to interview me on zoom as to why I don't celebrate christmas.

I'm under strict instructions from my sister (grandma to said child) that I'm not to disillusion her or tell her anything different to what she's learning at her (church) school.
So, I said to her, you mean without mentioning the stench of hypocrisy, the reek of capitalism and the pong of commercialization..... nor the pre-existing pagan festivals around the same time of year then?
No - none of that, she said.

As I don't have the option of saying "I'm a {name your religion here}" or "I'm a {name your Christian group that doesn't celebrate xmas eg the Wee Frees}", I'm at a bit of a loss what to say that isn't outright dishonest. There's only so much I can fob off with 'when you're a big girl ask me again'.
(This kid is very bright and remembers everything)

She wanted to do it this evening (Mon) but I managed to put it off til Wednesday evening. If anyone has any good ideas, more than happy to hear them. (I've got private message now if anyone doesn't want to disillusion the Believers in Santa ITT).

This is the time of year when I put my Bah Humbug hat on (which my sister gave me some years ago).

I think you sister needs to own this, get her to tell you what she wants her granddaughter to know. It's not reasonable to put pressure on you to try and work it out. Then whatever she says just lie and repeat that - it's just a five year old after all.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Duck absolutely rules, turkey is so, so bland.

We do beef, get a big rib of beef each year - much tastier than turkey and no more expensive.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Love it, I write one article on how to make beer in a more sustainble way (water, CO2 capture etc) and link it on a brewing forum and get this:





Oh honey, you think saving water is socialism? We have such sights (sites?) to show you...

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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The women behind Leiho (https://www.leiho.co.uk/) are very cool, and they donate a pair of socks for each pair bought, so you could get some christmas presents at the same time as helping.

Great socks too.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Lord of the Llamas posted:

I'm starting a new business right now and I'm terrified to offer sales to EU countries because I don't have the faintest idea what I'm supposed to do or how to do it with Brexit.

Yeah, I’m pretty pissed off at ads like this targeted to my business accounts:



Yeah, like loving what?

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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OwlFancier posted:

Well it is, renting is for people who can't afford (the deposit for) a mortgage so they get to pay more in rentsomeone else's mortgage instead.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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OwlFancier posted:

Even more accurate lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vTfGdA2xPo&t=28s

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

So did it not click in her head at some point that renting by its very nature has to be more expensive than paying a mortgage?

Eh, I can see why someone might not think that if they hadn't been exposed to it.

Imagine I buy a house at £1000 mortgage a month, and rent it out at £500 rent a month. I'm effectively 'buying' a house for £500/month instead of £1000, and at the end I get the house, and the renter gets to live in a house that (would cost) £1000 a month for £500, they just don't get equity. It's a decent deal all around.

Unlike the current version, which is a great deal for the landlord, and a poo poo one for the renter.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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Endjinneer posted:

Picking fruit at a small loss is still better than letting it rot for a total loss.

It is, but if the scenario you are looking at is ‘bringing in pickers will cost more than we will sell the fruit for’ then you just let it rot. The cost of the fruit is sunk, the only question is ‘will we make more money selling the fruit than it costs to pick it’, and the answer in many cases is ‘no’.

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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

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God I just can't stand Johnson's voice. He just sounds so loving 'yah yah lads' the whole time.

This u-turn is up there with the top 10 anime betrayals.

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