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hbag
Feb 13, 2021

i think i got SAIN dialed in to where its still pretty challenging but im also doing well enough that its not the end of the world if i die on a raid with a nice AK anymore

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Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Nutsak posted:

70%* for the stand alone. EoD gets 50% on the upgrade price to the Unheard Edition. PvE will be part of EoD "at release".

I, and the person I quoted, think PvE should be part of all editions - now.

Oh and I agree there.
I just continue to monitor how many times can Nikita shoot himself in the foot :v:

hazzlebarth
May 13, 2013

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

They're saying it's unsustainable for them, hosting servers etc for the PVE mode, but they could just make it so the loving group leader in coop hosts the game.

It may be a bit more cheater friendly but it's PVE anyway so it's kind loving pointless either way and just seems like another bullshit excuse to me.

I wish there would still be a wider support for dedicated servers a'la Half-Life 1 / Counterstrike 1 that you could either run on your pc or on a VPS somewhere. But I guess since companies then can't monetize continued access that train has left the station.

Jakosa
Dec 28, 2021

hazzlebarth posted:

I wish there would still be a wider support for dedicated servers a'la Half-Life 1 / Counterstrike 1 that you could either run on your pc or on a VPS somewhere. But I guess since companies then can't monetize continued access that train has left the station.

Are you talking about PVE servers? Because right now they provide servers for PVP without additional monetization if you just buy the standard edition.

hazzlebarth
May 13, 2013

Jakosa posted:

Are you talking about PVE servers? Because right now they provide servers for PVP without additional monetization if you just buy the standard edition.

Yes, for the new PvE mode. They said they can't give it to EoD users right now because it would overload their servers. If they released a dedicated server that problem would most certainly go away.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


1st times the charm!

Haha! Turns out it the charm is actually on the 2nd time you do an apology!

Why are you still angry?! 3rd times the charm! Please keep playing the game!

quote:


Greetings!

Let me continue my feedback on the current situation. First of all, I would like to say that I am very sorry that fans and the game community in general are experiencing these feelings. Unfortunately, I somehow did not foresee the fact of such a reaction and now I have drawn conclusions for my future decisions.

Now I will briefly summarize the main points:
1.) About PvE access - we decided to just open it for EoD owners for free, but we will do it in waves. As I said before - we don’t have server capacity right now. We will start this process as soon as possible
2.) We also decided that we will add MOD support for PvE mode after release of the game
3.) About the Unheard edition - we will not remove it, we want to keep the option for those who want to support the game more. But we will balance items, perks in this edition, as well as we will provide more rewards for those, who upgraded with the old price
4.) New EoD perks will be balanced too. We will remove prioritized matching option to keep everyone in the same spot. And we will add more unique stuff to highlight the EoD version in general. We will provide the final list of the new EoD perks asap
5.) We continue to work on patches, new content, events, and the game release itself no matter what

Thank you for your time, love and hate, and thank you for your increased attention to the current situation.

Nik

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

I mean, great that they're just completely taking basically everything back but between the idea that they did it in the first place and the stuff in the leaked interview I'm sure that they've taken a ton of self inflicted damage


e: aside from the general tone being "i'm sorry that you morons are upset by any of this and I'm sorry that I didn't get away with this bullshit without complaint"

hopterque fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Apr 28, 2024

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


It's straight up killed any interest I had in picking the game up during the next sale/reset.

Gray Zone is announcing the release date for Early Access tomorrow, so sounding like a few of the lads are picking that up and we'll be hitting that up instead.

There's PR mistakes and blunders, but this feels like they straight up disrespected the bulk of their user base

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Infinitum posted:

It's straight up killed any interest I had in picking the game up during the next sale/reset.

Gray Zone is announcing the release date for Early Access tomorrow, so sounding like a few of the lads are picking that up and we'll be hitting that up instead.

There's PR mistakes and blunders, but this feels like they straight up disrespected the bulk of their user base

Grey Zone looks a lot more interesting anyway than the thing tarkov has become in the years its been playable IMO. Remember when this game was supposed to have some sort of linked map progression and greater goal than just jumping into individual maps and grinding quests?

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
Without touching on the poo poo storm of Tarkov, I've got to say I was disappointed in Grey Zone in general. I don't know if it was all the hype about being a "Tarkov killer", but it left me with a very "meh" impression.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Nidhg00670000 posted:

Without touching on the poo poo storm of Tarkov, I've got to say I was disappointed in Grey Zone in general. I don't know if it was all the hype about being a "Tarkov killer", but it left me with a very "meh" impression.

I think it looks nice and has potential, if it reaches any of that potential is another thing entirely. Tarkov was also a game that looked nice and had potential, and it still has potential, but its been out for a long time and never seems any closer to reaching it and the years have proven without a doubt that BSG have serious issues all over.

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Jakosa
Dec 28, 2021
Grey Zone looks OK, but I don't think I'll like it more than Tarkov.

From what I've seen, it seems too squad focused. I usually play alone, so I want a game that's playable solo.
It also seems like it's primarily PVE with occasional PVP, where Tarkov seems more PVP focused.
And the map is something that caught my eye. Tarkov is the most simulation-like shooter I've tried and I like it. A map with markers that update automatically doesn't feel very simulation like. I think Dark Souls has given me an appreciation for games with no maps.

I don't know if Grey Zone will come out with other biomes, but it kind of looks like it's jungle all day long. I like that you can switch from long-range fighting on Woods to CQC on Factory and all sorts in between when you want in Tarkov.

I'll definitely keep it on my radar, but right now I'm not interested.

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