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Jun 20, 2008

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Resident Idiot posted:

Still a better platform than Discord.
User name/post combo

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-30/coronavirus-australia-live-news-latest-nsw-update/13020138

So how long till Gladys resigns?

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Police were called to an address in Kingston, south of Brisbane, to restrain Shaun Charles Coolwell who they say was having a "violent drug-induced episode”, behaving in an "uncontrollable" manner, hurting himself, and unable to talk to them. Police pinned and handcuffed him and paramedics injected a chemical sedative. He began to have breathing problems and lost consciousness, dying in hospital a few hours later. An internal investigation by Queensland police cleared the officers of any wrongdoing and found they had used "the minimum force required". An inquest was heard this year but the findings are yet to be published.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, injured in custody, force used, mental health / cognitive impairment. Being black in Queensland.

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Jun 20, 2008

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hambeet posted:

I’m a posting professional
Being paid to stop doesn't make you a professional.

Can we get The Artificial Kid a discord invite?

Mr Bell died of self-inflicted injuries in his cell at Casuarina prison on 9 September, four months after being convicted and sentenced to 27 years in jail for a horrific crime involving a child. At his sentencing hearing in May 2015, his lawyer said Bell believed he would be killed in prison. News of his death appeared on the front page of the West Australian newspaper. He was placed on at-risk and suicide management systems at various points in custody but was not on either at the time of his death. His family requested that prison guards wear body cameras, and the WA Department of Corrective Services said it was working towards that goal.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Liberal darling and serial fuckwit Tony Shepard is lobbying for the Sydney test so....

JFW lost consciousness after being held on his stomach on the ground during a citizens arrest by a retired police officer in Lockridge, Perth. He had allegedly entered the retired police officer's carport with another man and was believed to be committing a crime, an allegation that his family say was never proved. The police officer was twice JWF's weight but said he was "careful". A coroner found the force used against him was "reasonable" and blamed his death on methamphetamine addiction.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody, force used.

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Jun 20, 2008

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While we, as a nation, roll around in the fruits of our crapitude, behold the front page of the Daily Turdograph.



This on a morning where Anne Webster, member for Mallee defended Craig Kelly on the grounds of Free Speech. Free Speech that was necessary so both sides of the climate debate can be heard :psyboom:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-licence-to-lie

JFW lost consciousness after being held on his stomach on the ground during a citizens arrest by a retired police officer in Lockridge, Perth. He had allegedly entered the retired police officer's carport with another man and was believed to be committing a crime, an allegation that his family say was never proved. The police officer was twice JWF's weight but said he was "careful". A coroner found the force used against him was "reasonable" and blamed his death on methamphetamine addiction.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody, force used.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Big Willy Style posted:

goon cheese is just smegma
Smegma & tears actually.

KJS was diagnosed with lung cancer shortly after incarceration in 2014. He also suffered from ischaemic heart disease, atrial fibrillation, obesity, obstructive sleep apnoea, bronchiectasis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, prostate cancer and lumbar osteoarthritis. KJS was given radiotherapy and other treatments but the cancer progressed and he died in August 2015. The coroner found that the care, supervision and treatment of KJS was of an appropriate standard.

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Jun 20, 2008

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I decided to only support one charity and chose this one because it would put the biggest weeds up the right bottoms. Not disappointed.

AB was a gravely unwell disabled man and member of the Stolen Generation. He had acute heart disease, along with other medical issues, and was given a CT scan at Fiona Stanley hospital two days before his death to diagnose a large mass on his kidney. The hospital did not follow its own "essential" procedures for protecting a high-risk patient from contrast-induced nephropathy, and a coroner found, following evidence from several doctors, that CIN contributed to the renal failure he experienced before death, but that his cause of death was his terminal heart disease. The hospital has since updated its procedures and was not reprimanded.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed.

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Jun 20, 2008

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No news?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jan/21/australia-day-references-dropped-with-big-bash-cricketers-to-wear-indigenous-strips

RB died of a heart attack in his cell, after calling the guards and complaining of shortness of breath and chest pains on 20 June 2015. The coroner found that the care he received was "adequate" but raised questions about the conduct of the prison officers, saying: "The fact that an officer went to the deceased and then left him to go and get the other officer would seem unnecessary in an age with electronic communication. That they both went to see the deceased without the ‘Oxy Viva Unit’ or a wheelchair seems unnecessary. To then assist the deceased to walk to the officer’s post would seem to be a strange reaction to a person potentially suffering cardiac arrest.”

ISSUES RAISED
Procedures not all followed.

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Jun 20, 2008

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JBP posted:

The tweet is talking about rape kits and strip searches as well. I've never seen a surprise doctor for a checkup so I'm not sure what the story is there. You'd just select your doctor.
What utopian wonderland are they living in where a 14 year old girl gets to choose who strip searches them in public? Not NSW that's for sure.

Kumanjayi Langdon, a proud Warlpiri man, died of heart disease while lying on a concrete bench in a Darwin police watchhouse cell in May 2015. KL was drinking in a Darwin park when he was arrested by police under the Northern Territory's paperless arrest laws. It prompted the coroner, Greg Cavanagh, to recommend the repeal of paperless arrest laws and an independent investigation into alcohol misuse in the NT. Cavanagh said Langdon, "a sick middle-aged Aboriginal man, was treated like a criminal and incarcerated like a criminal; he died in a police cell which was built to house criminals … In my view, he was entitled to die as a free man."

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, force used.

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Jun 20, 2008

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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jan/27/antisemitism-and-holocaust-denial-on-the-rise-in-australia-josh-frydenberg-warns

:irony:

VJR was found unresponsive in his bed at John Moroney correctional centre just before the morning muster at 8.10am. He had last been seen alive at 5.30am, making a cup of coffee. Corrections officers performed CPR and used a defibrillator but were unable to revive him. His death was attributed to heart disease.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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bell jar posted:

What's up with these responses? Frydenberg is notably the son of a woman who escaped the Holocaust and came to Australia stateless. Should Frydenberg not come out against anti-semitism or what? What do you want?
The liberal party has done everything it possibly could to stir up racial tensions and promote far right nut jobs. They currently have a few inside the parliamentary party. Anti-Semitism is terrible and should be fought tooth and nail. It does however seem like an odd carve out when your party are 100% OK with people enacting genocide fantasies on anybody that is slightly odd, brown, not from the North Shore of NSW.

quote:

Leading Liberals in anti-semitism confrontation

Businessman Peter Yates declared that his late father, a pro-Arab British and Australian politician, was not anti-semitic in an awkward confrontation with Jewish MP Julian Leeser at a private conference, according to a person present.

Mr Yates, a former chief executive of the Packer family's media interests, hit back at Housing Minister Michael Sukkar, who suggested Mr Yates' father, William Yates, and brother Oliver Yates might be biased against Jews.

"I just wanted the opportunity to defend my family because the Liberal Party has said my family is anti-semitic," Mr Yates said at a weekend conference organised by the Centre for Independent Studies, a free-market think tank, according to an attendee.

Peter Yates is an active Liberal Party member. Glen Hunt

"My father wasn't an anti-Semite. My brother wasn't an anti-Semite."

Mr Yates, an active and well-known member of the Victorian Liberal Party, was an audience member of a panel on anti-Jewish sentiment chaired by former Macquarie Group chairman Nicholas Moore. The session had just heard that campaign posters for Mr Leeser, who was on the panel, were defaced with dollar signs during the election.

After Mr Yates spoke, Mr Moore said, according to the source: "Is this a statement or a question?"

"Julian Leeser then took the question and made the point that the anti-semitic stuff in the material was new in this age," the source said.

Julian Leeser is a Jewish MP from Sydney. Nine

"He made the point back to Yates: your brother has been involved in some level. His brother has failed to call out the wrong stuff going on."

In a short statement, Mr Leeser said he had told the conference that Oliver Yates should join other independent candidates who had condemned the challenge to Mr Frydenberg "which was brought by a Holocaust denier".

Oliver Yates, a former CEO of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, ran against Treasurer Josh Frydenberg at the federal election in the Melbourne seat of Kooyong. He didn't respond to an email seeking comment.

Last month, in parliament, Mr Sukkar linked Oliver Yates to legal action against Mr Frydenberg that alleges the son of a Holocaust survivor is a Hungarian citizen and therefore ineligible to be a member of parliament. Oliver Yates has said he isn't part of the legal action, although acknowledged he knows those who are.

Mr Sukkar referred to the record of William Yates, an eccentric British Arabist who sent a supportive telegram to King Hussein of Jordan during the Six-Day War against Israel and arrived at his first election victory in an Arab headdress. He died in 2010.

“You see, Yates’ father William Yates, who also served in this place, has been reported as calling international Zionism ‘a terrorist military organisation,’ " Mr Sukkar told parliament on August 1. “People could legitimately ask, ‘Has the apple fallen far from the tree?’ ”

The executive director of the Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council, Colin Rubenstein, said the challenge to Mr Frydenberg's election was instigated by a Melbourne lawyer, Trevor Poulton, who was praised by Australia’s most notorious Holocaust denier.

"Moreover it attempts to punish a Jewish person for having a mother who was persecuted by the Nazis and then effectively evicted from Hungary as a child," Mr Rubenstein said.

Oliver Yates says he isn't involved in the citizenship challenge to Treasurer Josh Frydenberg. Eddie Jim

The executive director of the Centre for Independent Studies, Tom Switzer, said he wouldn't discuss the conference, which was held under Chatham House rules, which means participants agreed not to disclose the identity of the speakers. Mr Moore is the think tank's chairman.

Peter Yates said the rules of the conference didn't allow him to confirm or deny his remarks.

"I wouldn't have made any comments if I had thought it wasn't Chatham House rules," he said in an interview.

Peter Yates has upset the Coalition government by lobbying against planned changes to superannuation rules that would stop many young people from being signed up to life insurance without their permission.
Just the first one that I could find on a quick search. More...

quote:

The Liberal Party must come clean on its links to right-wing extremists, following more reports that they are cosying up to members of the far-right to infiltrate and disrupt Victorian politics.

Last week convicted criminal and neo-Nazi sympathiser Neil Erikson claimed he met with prominent Liberals Andrew Hastie and Ian Goodenough – claims which were at first denied, but then shown to be true.

Mr Erikson also claimed to have flown to Queensland to take part in a conservative recruitment event for the Liberal-National Party – claims which were again first denied, but then shown to be true.

This extremist recruitment event was attended by well-known Victorian Liberal operative and State Council Delegate Elliot Watson.

The response to this extraordinary revelation has been met with deafening silence by the Victorian Liberal Party.

Unlike the LNP in Queensland, who have suspended the former Young Nationals President, David Goodwin, for attending the event, the Victorian Liberals have done nothing.

Mr Erikson’s latest claim is that he met former Victorian Liberal Leader, and the mobsters’ mate, Matthew Guy ahead of the recent Victorian state election.

While Mr Guy has denied ever meeting this far-right extremist, he has form when it comes to misleading the public.

We all remember that Mr Guy denied drinking Grange at his notorious lobster dinner with alleged mobster “Cousin” Tony Madafferi – a statement that he had to finally admit was untrue.

Mr Erikson has also claimed that people linked to the Liberal Party paid for him to interfere in the Victorian state election.

Given that the Liberal Party has been caught out lying about its dealings with far-right extremists, these are matters that Scott Morrison, Michael O’Brien and the Liberal Party must immediately address.

Quotes attributable to Deputy Premier James Merlino

“It is becoming clearer by the day that dangerous extremism is at the heart of the Liberal Party in Australia, with the drum beat at its strongest in Victoria.”

“Whether it’s extremist candidates, preference deals with One Nation and Clive Palmer, or prominent Liberals meeting convicted criminals and neo-Nazi sympathisers, Scott Morrison can’t bury his head in the sand any longer.”

“With less than two weeks before election day, it’s time the Liberals came clean – what do they know about the far-right infiltration in their party, and what are they doing about it?”

GRA was returned to prison after his parole was suspended on 30 April 2015. He was assessed as being at low risk of suicide when admitted to the Brisbane Corrections Centre, despite telling the intake officer of a history of self-harm, but experienced a significant deterioration in his mental health. He was exhibiting signs of psychosis as well as heightened anxiety after being moved between units. He died as a result of cutting his own forearms with a prison-issued razor blade while alone in his cell. The coroner said it appeared GRA "did not intend to kill himself" and that "[GRA's] death might have been prevented if, having regard to his dynamic risk factor and his mental health history including the specific nature of previous self-harm episodes, he had been prevented from having a razor blade issued to him by the prison or placed on an at risk observations regime". Another inmate, TMM, died in the same prison in similar circumstances in 2014.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, injured in custody, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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kirbysuperstar posted:

It's just a funny story.
Not on our watch!

The 68-year-old Aboriginal man had a heart attack after attempting suicide in a cell at Yatala Labour prison in South Australia in 2015. He had been moved to the prison for a psychiatric assessment but the assessment, but the appointment was cancelled due to a prison-wide lockdown. He had known mental health issues and had previously shared a cell with another remandee at Port Augusta prison, in accordance with royal commission recommendations around supporting Aboriginal prisoners, but was given a single cell at Yatala. A coronial inquest began in 2018 and the finding has been reserved.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/victorian-liberal-mp-kevin-andrews-loses-preselection-for-seat/13107342

For people who don't want to give the SMH clicks.

BBN died at Royal Darwin hospital of advanced throat cancer following a period of palliative care. He was serving a 14-year sentence at the Darwin correctional centre. His family were able to visit him in hospital, but complained at the inquest that they had not been permitted to stay overnight, and that he had not been released to die in his home community.

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Jun 20, 2008

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Andrews_(politician)

Good riddance. The man is a human tumour.

CWM had been drinking on 2 February 2015 and became unsteady on his feet, falling a number of times and hitting his head before eventually lying unresponsive on the footpath, where he remained for 29 minutes until police arrived. Police called an ambulance, and then offered to take CWM to hospital themselves because the ambulance was busy. At the hospital, police did not disclose that CWM had suffered a head injury prior to arrival. The coroner found that CWM died of a brain bleed from that injury and "that the care and treatment of [CWM] was not appropriate and not lawful. However that did not contribute to his death." The coroner was critical of the fact that on many occasions, CWM had not received proper care. Of the 24 occasions on which he was held in the police watch house, he made it into the alcohol mandatory assessment and treatment system only twice. The coroner, Greg Cavanagh, said “police hierarchy appeared generally disinterested” in the inquest.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Megillah Gorilla posted:

I'm not surprised by what Dutton did, but I am surprised by how cheap he is to buy.
Hey! Those are standard Queensland Police rates!

AB had a heart attack in his cell at Goulburn correctional centre after complaining of feeling unwell and vomiting the night before. He was given medication for the vomiting. He told a fellow inmate he had some chest pains but did not want to report them because he did not want to go into a “safety cell” in the medical ward, because he would not be allowed to smoke there. His family did not raise any issues at the inquest.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Urcher posted:

Are the ISSUES RAISED raised by the family? I had assumed they were raised by the coroner.
ISSUES RAISED when used as a heading in the report refer to the issues that the report is highlighting for further action. They may have been raised by the coroner or purely by the substance of the instance. Or even by the family. If nothing else these individual descriptions of deaths in custody show the huge range of issues facing the indigenous community.

KJ was a cultural man who lived in a remote community. He was suspected of having an auto-immune disease, but doctors at Katherine hospital were not able to fully diagnose it in part because he did not always trust western medicine. He was sentenced to five months' jail in October 2016 for driving offences. He was treated at the prison medical clinic for a number of issues and eventually admitted to hospital, where he later died. His family was not told he was taken to hospital and was unable to visit him. He was also not provided with an interpreter.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed.

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Jun 20, 2008

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NTRabbit posted:

The Stamford Plaza in Adelaide is fenced off out front with guards, but has a constant stream of ubereats and deliveroo guys delivering food during meal times
Ah, the Stamford Plaza Experiment.

SB was on remand at Bandyup women’s prison in December 2016. According to a statement from the Western Australian Department of Corrective Services, she was taken to Royal Perth hospital in a priority one ambulance and died at the hospital a short time later from a heart attack. The department has not said whether the ambulance was called because of the heart attack or another medical episode. The inquest is yet to be scheduled.

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Jun 20, 2008

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freebooter posted:

My understanding is that states employ doctors and nurses (because they run the hospitals); the federal government doesn't.

"The real limiting factor on increasing quarantine capacity is the availability of trained medical professionals."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-19/who-is-responsible-for-quarantine-in-australia/13070108

But I mean yeah it's all really just about seconding people from whatever else they would have been doing, regardless of who their employer normally is, and I don't really understand why people get worked up about quarantine being a "federal responsibility." It's usually drips on Twitter I see harping on about it, and you know they only care about being able to blame Scomo when it goes wrong. How we run HQ is a far more relevant issue than who runs it.
Yeah, Nuh.

From the article quoted: "The biggest questions for the quarantine system in the future is: who staffs it and who pays for it?

Right now, the Federal Government's contribution in dollars and manpower comes from the deployment of 1,500 Defence Force members to the system. Quarantine is chewing up huge state police resources, too. For example, there are 900 Victorian Police officers working in that state's system alone. "I don't think a shortage of doctors is the main pressure on quarantine," Mr Bowen said. "It involves security, it involves transport, and the strains we've seen in the quarantine system have come from just those points: security and transport. They are things the Commonwealth has plenty of resources to assist with."

Clearly there are arguments both ways but I really don't think we can let the actual minister responsible off quite so easily. This has been an entirely hands off for political reasons strategy and the Kartoffelführer should be questioned about the failures and future directions in AQIS. At least Rob Delane (Inspector-General of Biosecurity) seems to be superficially competent. Which is surprising given the current government's track record (Census, Robo debt, Aged Care, Banking Sector, Media interference...)

Meanwhile in the land of the sleeping spud:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-spent-36-000-on-vip-chartered-flights-for-grants-announcement-20210214-p572cj.html Don't click Headline says all you need to know (Dutts spent $36K on travel to promote the security spending that hadn't yet been allocated by department.

And am I the only one who isn't convinced 'Safe Communities' spending millions on high intensity lighting and CCTV networks is actually making Australia either a safer or a better place? I guess if you particularly like police states.

Wayne Fella Morrison died in hospital three days after he was restrained by 14 guards at Yatala prison in South Australia on the morning of 23 September 2016. CCTV footage shows him being held to the ground then carried, hooded, into a van. There is no video footage from the van, and some guards involved in his transport have to date refused to give evidence.The coronial inquest into his death began two years ago, but was delayed when 18 prison guards and a nurse who had been called to give evidence at the inquest challenged coroner Jayne Basheer in the supreme court, calling for her to be removed from the inquest. The South Australian supreme court in April 2020 ruled that Basheer could continue hearing the inquest, but also that Basheer could not compel guards to answer questions about their conduct which could leave them open to civil liabilities. The inquest is expected to resume in 2020.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, injured in custody, force used.

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Jun 20, 2008

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hambeet posted:

YOU CAN'T MAKE ME WASH MY HANDS
Don't you work fast food Beet?

JBM lost consciousness and died a short time after police decided to take him into protective custody at Vestys Beach in Darwin in September 2016. He had been bashed by two people the night before. That morning he had asked a council ranger to call an ambulance because his back hurt, and that request was passed on to the police call centre, but not recorded or acted on. Police arrived two hours after the request for an ambulance. They called an ambulance and performed CPR but he died at the scene.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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I'm not sure the artist really understands Hentai.

GLW died in the Strzelecki minimum security cottages at Fulham correctional centre from a heart condition in September 2016. The coroner did not find any fault with Corrections Victoria, but the Victorian Aboriginal Legal Service said it was not notified of his death until five days later. His next of kin and the Koori Caucus were both notified in a timely way.

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Jun 20, 2008

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What is really really despicable is the "John" was dismissed over the incident as a "security breach". That's A level cover up right there. People knew he had been dismissed over a "security breach". WTF?

quote:

The following week, Ms Higgins was called into a formal meeting. The defence industry minister's office contains classified information, and the incident was initially treated as a potential security breach, as well as a breach of the code of conduct that applies to ministerial staff. Ms Higgins said it was on that day she learned the alleged rapist had been dismissed over those "breaches".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-21/heres-what-we-know-and-dont-about-brittany-higgins-alleged-rape/13173526

This throws so much doubt into the already muddy waters about who knew what. eg "Oh I knew he'd been canned for some security matter, the rape came as a complete blindside!"

I almost want more to come forward at this point. Maybe Linda Reynolds can but Pimp on her CV. What she did is indisputably wrong.

-/-

See Firestarter, if for no other reason than to be reminded why the ABC exists.

VB was found hanged from a ceiling fan in a shared cell at Darwin correctional precinct on 25 August 2016. His cellmate was sleeping on the balcony, where it was cooler. It was the second suicide involving overhead ceiling fans at the prison in 12 months. The coroner suggested they be fitted with load-sensing devices so they could not be used as hanging points.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Oh gently caress no. Just what a controlling arse factory boss needs! More control and power over their serfs.

EJM died of heart failure in August 2016 in the special-needs section of Queensland's Wolston correctional centre, after reporting to staff that he could not breathe. He had multiple health problems and had spent much of his adult life in jail.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Craig Kelly actually went to the cross bench so the LNP weren't on the hook for another sex pest.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-24/finance-department-investigation-work-health-safety-craig-kelly/13184948

quote:

On top of that, police successfully applied for a provisional Apprehended Violence Order (AVO) which prohibits Mr Zumbo from contacting, harassing and intimidating a teenager who had worked as an intern in Mr Kelly's office.

I'm all for empowering youth but what is a young teenager doing in the sleaze pit that is parliament house? I blame the parents. Why didn't they just throw their daughter at some professional footballers?

Rebecca Maher is the first Aboriginal person to die in New South Wales police custody since the introduction of the mandatory custody notification service (CNS) in 2000. She was taken into protective custody for allegedly walking in an intoxicated manner along a road in Cessnock. Police did not attempt to contact a responsible person, as required under the relevant legislation, did not call an ambulance, and did not search her for drugs because they mistakenly believed she was HIV positive. They did not enter her cell between 1.27am, when she was checked in, and 5.51am, when it was discovered she was dead. An inquest found that her level of intoxication and apparent breathing difficulties, which were noted by police although some police at the inquest denied discussing the issue, meant that she should have been taken to hospital. Had an ambulance been called, the coroner found, she would have survived. The coroner made seven recommendations including expanding the CNS to include people taken into protective custody.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Seemlar posted:

quelle surprise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqj2z3QaRyU

Makes FJ's appearance ^here^ even more problematic.

FJG went into cardiac arrest after being restrained by police and injected by a paramedic with midazolam and ketamine, in an effort to sedate him following an apparent psychotic episode linked to methamphetamine use. He had a history of heart disease and had already had two heart attacks, most recently two months before his death. His heart condition was flagged on the police system but police who attended the disturbance were not aware of that information. The coroner found they acted to avoid prone restraint and the use of sedatives did not cause the heart attack.

ISSUES RAISED
Procedures not all followed, force used, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I will gently caress the trees until they are exhausted and no longer a threat
Thank You for your service splinters (Assuming it was consensual).

Steven Freeman's cellmate was unable to wake him at 11am on 27 May 2016, two days after the Bundjalung man had started on a methadone program. He had received two doses, the latest about 24 hours before his death. A coroner found he had never been a serious opioid user, and recommended prisoners be drug-tested to determine whether they were opioid users before being placed on the withdrawal program, and also recommended the prison improve its welfare checks so non-responsive prisoners were not overlooked.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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What? Have men control their penises? IMPOSSIBLE!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-03/sarah-hanson-young-david-leyonhjelm-defamation-appeal/13210042

Suck all that poo poo cat hat.

WMM died in custody after a lengthy term of imprisonment. He had been imprisoned for almost nine years. He died from natural causes after an extensive history of significant kidney disease which led to significant morbidity and irreversible complications. The requirement for haemodialysis placed him at very high risk of sudden cardiac death.

ISSUES RAISED
Mental health / cognitive impairment.

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Jun 20, 2008

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-05/linda-reynolds-apologises-to-brittany-higgins-lying-cow/13219796

Lying cow apologises.

What I want to know is what is the exact context of the original "lying cow" allegation. Reynolds seems to say it wasn't in regard to the rape allegation directly. Put into any context it still seems incredibly damning. I want to know what context it was even remotely acceptable, even to a psychopath.

And Porter is completely playing the "Asked and answered", now I'm having a peek-a-boo one week time out in the hopes that one week is actually a long time in politics and you will all have forgotten about it, game.

Jacquai loving Lambie was making sense on ABC RN this morning....We are that far down the rabbit hole.

RJG was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer during a stint at the Alice Springs correctional centre in 2013. He was in and out of custody a number of times in the three months before his death, but was jailed a final time for driving offences in late 2015. He received chemotherapy while in prison and was eventually transferred to Alice Springs hospital for palliative care and died on 5 April 2016, four days before his approved early release date.

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Jun 20, 2008

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BrigadierSensible posted:

What is Lambie saying that is making sense?
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/lambie-calls-coronial-inquiry-christian-porter-rape-allegation/13218520

GWA had a fatal heart attack in the prison cottage he shared with another inmate on 4 April 2016, when he was just 31 years old. He had "significant" heart disease, poorly controlled diabetes, and was a heavy smoker. Health workers at the prison had arranged for him to see a cardiologist, but said he was reluctant to stop smoking or lose weight and did not take his medication. The coroner found that "all that could be done for him was done, but unfortunately he would not comply with the lifestyle changes that were necessary for his own wellbeing".

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop


Bit late for a religious coup in Australia. Even if completely mobilised they can only carry about as much weight as four or five times what the Greens do. Even then, the 'moral' issues have traditionally been a weak side to the the whole LNP poo poo puddle.

EY fell and hit his head on a wall after being directed by police to leave a public housing unit, where he had fallen asleep after drinking. He died in hospital from his head injury 12 days later on 30 March 2016. Police did not initially record his death as a death in custody. The coroner said police had no legal right to move EY from the unit, because he was on private property and not trespassing, but that senior police appeared unconcerned. He said that having roused EY, police should have taken care to make sure he did not fall.

ISSUES RAISED
Procedures not all followed, injured in custody, mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
So is it true that nobody from the government went out to speak with the protestors? Not even the Minister for Women, Marise Payne? How do they think the bunker mentality is going to work? The people who run the innocence project say that before you come to them you need to make sure you are innocent because the process of attempting a defence will make the dirty dirtier and only the clean cleaner. Porter had an opportunity to do a tear stained mea culpa and probably walk away unscathed. Doubling down is only going to make more people come out of the wood work over the next days, weeks and months. When 'me too'ing a sex pest many victims hold back hoping that the perpetrator will face some justice and they won't need to be involved(for obvious reasons). When the perp continues to evade and protest innocence it forces the hands of victims.

I even have some minor admiration for Zali Steggle and how she has been standing up for better treatment of women in politics.

Someone should parody those awful BSDM "school sex ed" cartoons and have Scott Morrison in bondage gear inside parliament house. A parliament house clearly labelled 'rape dungeon'.

PMB had been in custody on remand for a month when he was found dead in his bed at Lotus Glen correctional centre. He had appeared pale and sweaty and complained of being unwell after exercising vigorously the day before but had not sought medical assistance. A postmortem found he died of a sudden arrhythmia. He was from a remote community on Cape York and spoke English as a second language.

ISSUES RAISED
Mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
If you weren't already ouching enough:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/17/the-rule-of-law-how-the-australian-justice-system-treats-sexual-assault-survivors

Before I lend my elderly male voice to a discussion I have very little worthwhile perspective on let us look upon the steaming turd that is the new Jobseeker arrangements.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/24/the-new-jobseeker-dobber-hotline-will-empower-bad-employers

Beyond the "suck my dick or I'll report you" provisions there is the return of the twenty (20) contacts per month 'mutual obligation'. Well speaking as a job creating lifter can we please have less of a burden on employers? That's a metric fuckton of applicants for every job I create. That means over three hundred applicants for a single casual limited hours retail position.

Now if the government was actually on the side of small business there wouldn't exist the ridiculous STS payroll reporting system that becomes mandatory on 1 July. Anybody here heard of the mygovID app? You should have. No it isn't MyGov, silly. That's only for NSW. This one is Federal. :aaaaa: Now once you have got your shiney new mygovID ID you have to pair with Relationship Authorisation Manager (RAM) except guess what? The mygovID app is so bug infested and hack prone that it includes a warning to FORCE CLOSE it after use. And the RAM (it fair up your arse) is so bug ridden and haxxor infested that it has been effectively closed since the start of March. Why isn't this poo poo in the news? Every business in Australia is obliged to report poo poo to the ATO and the ATO has been capriciously altering it's allowed means of access for the last twenty years with each and every new one being a more bloated and outrageous infringement on liberty and privacy.

gently caress this poo poo.

And onto the crocodile tears and blatant lies that are Nicolle Flint. Hi Nicolle! Where is your searing condemnation of the way JuLIAR was treated by your then PM and his cronies? You say GetUp bullied you because you were a woman. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-12/activist-group-getup-targets-boothby-mp-nicolle-flint/10804446 Three of the four (GetUp) targets were men.

quote:

'GetUp elections director Henrietta Smith said 'Ms Flint was identified in a poll of its members as South Australia's "most backwards politician". We think Nicolle Flint and the hard-right are standing in the way of action on climate and a whole raft of other progressive policy issues," Ms Smith said. "We're looking at the whole hard-right faction in the Federal Parliament because we think together they're stopping progressive policies being made into law."
Please note a women said this, in a calm and measured way, without threat of violence, a cocktail of alcohol and drugs, or indeed their dick out.

And even though there was a man who definitely represented the scum that are all men who egged your office and stalked you, where is the evidence they are from GetUp? Provide me some and I will resign from GetUp immediately.

And given her position on sharks she should have been particularly scathing about the chaff bag comment.

JR died of acute water intoxication, olanzapine toxicity and schizophrenia. Olanzapine is a drug prescribed to manage his schizophrenia and has been reported to cause people to drink more water, but doctors who reviewed his death concluded that excess water consumption could also be due to him being in a prison environment. The olanzapine levels in his blood were 0.40mg, which is within the range of reported deaths associated with, but not caused by, olanzapine toxicity. The coroner found his care and health treatment in custody was reasonable and appropriate.

ISSUES RAISED
Procedures not all followed, mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
We are through the looking glass:

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/consent-app-nsw/

quote:

Why The NSW Police’s ‘Consent App’ To Tackle Rape Is A Bad Idea That Will Only Harm Victims By Lavender Baj Published March 18, 2021

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller has proposed the idea of an app to track consent in sexual situations as a way to combat the prevalence of sexual abuse in Australia and although it’s nice to see the police actually trying to do something about sexual violence, this ain’t it. The idea has already been implemented in Denmark but if Fuller’s idea comes to fruition, we could see it in NSW too. Fuller explained the idea to reporters on Wednesday, asserting that he got the concept from the coronavirus tracing apps. “There is no implied ­consent. It needs to be positive consent. How do we do that in this day and age? One option is with technology,” Fuller said. “You can’t walk into a shop at the moment without scanning in. Two years ago I would have said ‘you’re mad, I’m not doing that.” Fuller’s suggestion comes after NSW police received 14,171 reports of alleged sexual assault in 2019 but only 1,099 were charged and out of that, only a measly 376 were actually found guilty.

Basically, before getting your fucc on, you’d sign a digital agreement, which may not be sexy, but at least means you’re both on the same page. “People say ‘how unromantic is that’. But think of how many people are looking for friendship and love online – it’s not as though technology and dating are foreign to us,” Fuller argued. “The conversation around sex and consent seems to be anchored to the ’50s and ­clearly it isn’t working.” But let’s be real here, if somebody *wanted* to rape or sexually abuse you, whether or not you signed a digital contract isn’t going to stop them. And I’m not going to poo poo on Fuller for his idea because even he admitted there would be some challenges. “I know there are challenges. But this would be a good starting point,” he said.

But as a heterosexual woman who is always on the lookout for something that will make my sexual encounters with men less dangerous, I simply can’t look at this app as anything other than a form of protection for abusers. The first major red flag I see with this is withdrawn consent. The app doesn’t track your enjoyment and consent throughout the encounter, just the fact that at one point during the night, you did consent. So what happens if I consent, then when things start to get heated I decide I feel a little sick or simply decide I don’t want to have sex with this person? The contract feels like some sort of obligation because I know if I ever wanted to press charges, this person now has written proof that – at one point – I said yes.

We also need to address the big, drunk elephant in the room here. Alcohol plays a huge part in sexual encounters, and you legally can’t consent to sex if you’re intoxicated. But let’s be real here, get a few drinks into me and I’d probably sign away the soul of my first born child on account of the fact that I’m intoxicated and therefore not thinking straight. But again: if something happens, your abuser now has hard evidence against you. There are a million different circumstances in which this app could be misused to further harm victims, including women feeling pressured to sign, or even just having it signed on their behalf only for that evidence to be later used to invalidate their truths. But that’s not my biggest issue here.

The overarching problem I have with this app is that it just should not be this hard. It shouldn’t. Instead of spending millions of dollars developing an app to record consent, can we simply not teach people – predominantly men – not to sexually assault or rape people? Much like the entire conversation around sexual assault to begin with, this app shifts the blame back onto the victim and, if anything, empowers abusers.

Help is available.

If you require immediate assistance, please call 000.

If you’d like to speak to someone about sexual violence, please call the 1800 Respect hotline on 1800 737 732 or chat online.

Under 25? You can reach Kids Helpline at 1800 55 1800 or chat online.

CGG was born in Melbourne and had been homeless since he was a teenager. He was jailed indefinitely in Western Australia in 2000 and refused to apply for parole, saying he would be homeless once released. He had no connection to his family. He was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer in 2012 and spent his final weeks in a hospital and later a hospice. His restraints were removed 14 days before his death.

ISSUES RAISED
Mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

hambeet posted:

from nanites
Boo to nanites.

I was cut off by flood waters for two days and spent Thursday bailing out one of my tenancies. The Grid™ is slightly sub par in torrential rain and requires extra drainage channels.

Tanya Day was a well-respected Yorta Yorta woman who died 17 days after falling in the cells of Castlemaine police station after being arrested for public drunkenness. Her death prompted the Victorian government to promise to abolish the crime of public drunkenness, though as of June 2020 that reform has not taken place. The coroner who investigated Day's death referred the case to the director of public prosecutions in April, saying that her treatment at the hands of police officers may be an indictable offence. The coroner also found that the train conductor who called the police when he saw Day asleep and apparently intoxicated on a train to Melbourne had been biased against her because of her Aboriginality.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, injured in custody.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Ran out of desks.

TMH, from Tjuntjuntjara, was a backseat passenger in a car without number plates that was driven past police in Boulder in Western Australia. Police did a U-turn to follow but were 300 metres behind and had not yet tried to flag the car down when it collided with a taxi at the intersection of Burt and Thomson streets. According to media reports, the driver and another passenger fled while other passengers were detained by police. TMH had a heart attack while being loaded into an ambulance and later died. WA police say they are investigating it as a death in custody.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Tommunist posted:

Scromentum

KG was arrested on the night of 21 August 2017 for allegedly breaching a court order. He had chronic health issues caused by alcoholism and diabetes. It is understood that South Australian police were aware of those issues and placed him in an observation cell at the Adelaide city watch house. Protocol is to check people in observation cells every 15 minutes. He was discovered unresponsive at 1.05am and declared dead, with police attributing his death to a "medical episode." It has yet to be listed for a coronial inquest.

ISSUES RAISED
Mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/the-economy-needs-to-start-doing-the-heavy-lifting-jobkeeper/13279520

The men may be sleezy but the women could do with some competence/empathy training also,

"there's a well established formula for the 'poverty line'."
A rancid sack of flood infused rodent poo poo "I'm not entirely sure I agree with you there."

Ladies and gentlemen the best and brightest of the LNPs star studded line up ( and actual Minister for Families and Social Services)!

JLT had complained of chest pain the day before his death but prison staff mistakenly believed he was complaining of a sore throat. Nursing staff at the prison told the coroner it was hard to communicate with JLT due to his deafness and inability to speak or sign in English. They thought he was worried about drinking from a calcified kettle. A review by the prison found that the lack of ability to communicate with JLT “more than likely significantly contributed to missing a potential opportunity for intervention that could have changed the outcome”. The coroner made no recommendations.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Konomex posted:

Which raises a fair point, how much of our economy is being run by a quasi intelligent botnet? Twitter bots causing markets to spin up and down, trading currencies to raise capital. Foreign investor drones buying up cheap property in low income neighbourhoods, then dumping it on the market when the prices rise.

How much do we really know about how the so called economy works?
Speaking as a well known economist sceptic it may surprise you to learn that there is a bunch of stuff we do know about how the economy works. As far as the housing market goes the dropping of official interest rates results in an increase in property 'values'.

https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/rdp/2016/pdf/rdp2016-04.pdf
https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/completed/first-home-ownership/submissions/69/sub069.pdf

quote:

There is a direct relationship between house prices and interest rates. For example, at a certain level of demand and supply (and therefore a certain price level for houses) a fall in interest rates will lower the cost of housing purchase. This has the effect of increasing effective demand and so house prices will rise. If interest rates fall again price will rise further until over supply eventually results.

On the other hand if interest rates were to rise dramatically house prices would stop rising and may even fall as buyers readjust their purchase decisions.

https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/rdp/2019/pdf/rdp2019-01.pdf See figure 12.

News Corpse has thrown Ex PM (Turnbull) under the bus over the last two days.

In NSW Turnbull lasted a whole week before a coal country by election forced him off the zero emissions board (lol).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/malcolm-turnbull-dropped-as-chair-of-climate-change-board/100050254 You can not make this poo poo up. That is seriously embarrassing poo poo. It is a further distraction from EMBATTLED Premier Glady's corrupt boyfriend scandal (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/gladys-berejiklian-says-turnbull-appointment-was-a-distraction/13290314 a very welcome distraction along with the floods and COVID). Amazing how ICAC have been getting gutted lately..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-22/nsw-premier-gladys-berejiklian-ex-daryl-maguire-icac-ruling/100021614 also https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/25/former-corruption-commissioner-blasts-nsw-cuts-to-integrity-agencies-as-alarming

NACCHO is the National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation they are demonstrably doing the most towards 'closing the gap' https://www.theage.com.au/national/...326-p57ef6.html and yet their programs struggle for funding from the State and Federal governments.

A coroner said it was “horrific” and “disgraceful” that EJW, a Gamilaraay man who died in hospital after suffering a brain haemorrhage in prison, had been shackled to the bed in the last days of his life despite being unconscious and unresponsive. The NSW coroner found that prison officers had failed to recognise signs of emergency and failed to provide adequate care to the 35-year-old, who called for help more than 20 times in the hours before he was transported, unconscious, to hospital.

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, force used, mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Apr 7, 2021

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Anidav posted:

Reminder that QUT is the University that has had the young liberals in power basically indefinitely because they get a gently caress load of funding and can throw rotten milk at or coward punch members of the opposition student parties during student council elections and basically get off scot free.

Also QUT let the libs ban opposing political groups from running stalls during orientation week except for socialist alliance for some reason.
Those fuckers are legit scary.

Upon the passing of PP Scumo the Clown was heard to suggest that duty was a quality sorely lacking in today's Australia. GG gobshite.

And now we are going to give a state funeral to Andrew Peacock? I thought Michael Gudinski was a stretch but odd enough to get the nod. This definitely devalues the brand. Maybe they can give my Mum one. She's done a bunch of stuff, not maybe as much as Gough Whitlam, but she never sought the spotlight.

In happy in the pants fascist news the Kartoffelführer obviously only wanted the job so he could completely emasculate ADF chief Angus Campbell by reversing probably one of his most difficult decisions. A decision that cost him a bunch of skin inside the ADF.

https://afghanistaninquiry.defence.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-11/IGADF-Afghanistan-Inquiry-Public-Release-Version.pdf

Read even the redacted version and tell me you think anyone involved deserves a medal of any sort ever. The slimy potato's view is you have to actually be a convicted war criminal to lose a medal. Think on that as you read the report and its recommendations.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-19/defence-peter-dutton-overturn-decision-strip-veterans-decoration/100078026

It's just a jump to the Right and then a step to the Right and then you do the pelvic thrust on a colleague's desk lets be more fascist again!

DJR had a heart attack while playing pool at Alice Springs correctional centre on 18 August 2018. The 42-year-old Warlpiri man had been given an ECG twice while in prison after complaining of chest pain, which he put down to muscle strain from doing push-ups. He was considered fit and healthy. The coroner, Greg Cavanagh, said medical staff had failed to follow up on an elevated cholesterol reading and a reported abnormal heart rhythm, but that overall his medical care in prison was "adequate".

ISSUES RAISED
Medical care required but not all given, injured in custody.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Animal Friend posted:

Going to need a lengthy explanation for this
The squirrels running up and down his keyboard shouldn't be drinking red bull.

DK was 34 when he died on 29 June 2018 from multiple organ failure aftter a cardiorespiratory arrest while his body was affected by methylamphetamine. The WA coroner said he was "satisfied that the officers took DK into custody so that he could undergo a mental health assessment. I am also satisfied that the Officers were well aware of the health risks that arise when a person is affected by illicit drugs, and that in DK's case they addressed those risks by the minimal use of force, the appropriate use of physical restraints and by regular monitoring."

ISSUES RAISED
Force used, mental health / cognitive impairment.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Endman posted:

It's almost time for the next Tasmanian State Election, you know what that means!



It means we're all going to jail apparently. :saddowns:
How dare they give a gently caress about anyone other than themselves!

How dare they!

The coroner found that JWC died with "potentially toxic levels" of methamphetamine in his body. The 24-year-old was found by a resident after he fled police who wanted to speak to him about driving offences. The coroner found that the officers had not acted unlawfully or improperly, but made a number of recommendations on how next of kin, particularly those of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage, should be treated.

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Jun 20, 2008

poop


Mr Yeeda collapsed at West Kimberley regional prison in Western Australia at 4.45pm on 3 May 2018 and was declared dead less than an hour later at Derby hospital. He received CPR from a prison doctor and nurse while they waited for the ambulance to arrive. His family has raised concerns that he was not receiving adequate treatment for his rheumatic heart disease. Despite protocols stating that police must notify the coroner immediately if they investigate a suspected death in custody, the coroner was not notified for six days.

ISSUES RAISED
Procedures not all followed.

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