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titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Since we've moved to work from home I mostly gently caress around all day. My boss doesn't care and acknowledges this, saying to just have something up on my laptop if IT every spies on me. He asks me to do things that we'll have to coordinate on, never gets back to me, then does them himself. We're supposed to have biweekly check in with our dept coordinator but the check ins are now mostly the two of us with questions for our boss, who doesn't show. The coordinator suggests things to do related to the grants im working under, which aren't really relevant or necessary but I mostly do them just to have something to do. Examples include adapting an extensive quarterly report template from their main grant to be used with mine, even though I won't ever actually use it to report since i already have a template we've been using for years with the granting agency, and all the extra detail from the other one is stuff they don't ask us to report on

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titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

The lifers ive talked to at my org and conveyed my concerns with regarding how dysfunctional everything is have all told me "get out while you can because if you work here too long you might not be able to function in a normal workplace"

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

A big part (the main part of my job before we had new management) of my job involves sampling water, bringing it to a lab that tests a variety of parameters, and organizing & reporting the data to the EPA. We've recently expanded a lot and reorganized the department. Im supposed to be training a new employee to sample so we can have some redundancy and I can handle other things. Theyre pretty unreliable and can't drive, so I basically just have an extra set of hands & still have to do everything else by myself.

My coworker, who is sort of a shadow supervisor (my boss gave them a raise and shoved most of his work onto them, but he still signs our time sheets) had taken an interest in my training the new employee and insisted I schedule sampling times around their schedule so they can attend as well. When this happened they wanted to go on a Friday, and I mentioned the lab won't take a certain sample in too late on Fridays because the processing requires an employee to work over the weekend. My boss boss heard this and said we should just get set up with a closer lab in the area that does work over the weekend so we can have more flexibility in sampling days (this isn't a real issue as we have Monday through Thursday, and Friday morning)

To use a different lab we have to amend an agreement we have with the EPA, so I emailed our EPA contact to see what we have to do for that. They got back to me now (several months later) detailing the process, which involves a cover letter, accreditation from the lab itself proving they can perform the needed tests to EPA standards, a copy of the labs manual, and editing of our agreement. Nowhere before did my boss actually mention the name of the lab, and it turns out that while the lab is accredited for the coliform test it doesn't do any of the other tests we would need (requiring a trip to the original lab anyway), and it doesn't even appear to serve the public. Its a lab for an industrial facility he used to work for and he was hoping he could set up an agreement with them to take our coliforms.

So to summarize: I'm training new employee to take over sampling. Coworker wanted me to change sampling days so they can supervise training. The sampling day they wanted doesn't work due to our labs schedule. My boss suggested a new lab to allow more flexibility. The process for being able to use this new lab requires a lot of paperwork, and the new lab can't do any of our other tests, requiring us to use the original lab regardless.

I told them I don't see the point of pursuing this further.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I didnt really know the details of amending our agreement or the tests provided by the new lab prior, though I did think it was a waste of time to try to do all this just to accommodate someone else's schedule. If the new lab could do all the tests we needed it would be worth it to save driving time, but as is this whole things a dud.

Truthfully I have no direction and little to do anyway, so most of the time I don't say no because I need to find something to do to fill the day.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Saalkin posted:

My work just rehired my abusive Ex-Gf.

Sick.

Don't date coworkers or do I don't care I'm not your dad.

My friend has worked food service in SF for years and hes left several jobs because he dated a coworker, it didn't work out, and he didn't want to see them any more

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I always feel anxious before our weekly check in meetings because I'm worried ill be scrutinized too closely for how I've been spending my time while working remote. Its never been an issue before but hey, tell my brain that

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Yr actual manager sounds kind of cool at least

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Tetramin posted:

lol I get the same feeling. I definitely get at least the same amount of work done since I’ve been WFH. But instead of wasting time in the ways you do it at the office, I watch TV or whatever so it feels weird.

I do much less at home because at the office we often ended up finding random bullshit to do (reorganizing rooms, catching up on filing, etc) and my boss would also rope us in to tasks the other departments didn't want to do. My job is kind of weird in that its grant funded and the way the work plans have been written theres not really that much to do, and we've had to push a lot of stuff back to the next cycle due to covid.

My department and organization as a whole is very chaotic and ive sort of fallen through the cracks. I'm left out of pretty much any department planning and my boss has ADD or something and never follows through with coordinating with me, while simultaneously saying hell take care of a bunch of things relevant to my position. The rest of the department assumes hes gonna leave or get canned within the year, which would make my control freak coworker the next in line until they get a replacement.

I check every job board in my area every morning. At this point I'm considering working for the post office or doing cannabis work just to get out of here.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Picking which grant to allocate my time to as I go on a leisurely walk through the hills with my gf and my work phone

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Hasturtium posted:

“We’re a big family here” usually means “we have work-life balance issues and develop an air of artificial camaraderie to distract ourselves from the lives we should be living outside of this place.” This same company will inevitably insist if you are laid off or terminated that it’s nothing personal.

My org has a big main office where almost all the departments are located, and then my office is in a much smaller separate building across the lot. They have employee appreciation bbqs and celebrate birthdays and such and I just show up to get food and then go straight back to my office. Theres lots of drama and politically motivated firings in the main building and ive been told just avoiding any kind of non work interaction is for the best.

Theres another departments director in my office who's got the system figured out. For the employee appreciation bbq last october they called her name multiple times because it was her birthday and she got a plaque and an extra day of pto for being here for 12 years, and she didn't show up at all. I told her about it later and she said she was just gonna pick up that stuff from HR lol.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

shut up blegum posted:

Years ago I came back from lunch with some colleagues and our teamleader came over and told us: "Well, you were 5 minutes late, so you have to stay 1 minute longer every day this week".
I stared at her because I had no idea if she was serious.




She was.

Its statements like this that make me very glad ive picked apart our employee handbook. I got into an argument with hr once where they insisted they don't pay for work related travel on the weekend, and the director remarked that he's had that argument with his own employees in HR before and that I was wrong. I found they had literally just copy pasted the policy from the FMLA, read to him the correct interpretation of FMLA, and pointed out in my official job description where it says I'm not exempt from the FMLA. He never responded to my email, I never went to the training, and he quit shortly after

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

My org has one big main office with most departments in it, then two much smaller separate offices (where I am) across the lot. Our admin sent out an email today saying to evacuate the main office, which usually means a confirmed covid case was in (this is the 4th or 5th time this has happened) and that everyone in that building can go home and get paid the rest of the day.

All the departments have had most of a year to come up with work from home schedules, IT has provided laptops, TeamViewer, training for remote, and we've switched to a new time clock system to make it easier, and still the majority of employees work in person, which then leads to emergency closures for covid like this. The last closure took out our finance and procurement departments and those employees had to scramble to set up work from home even though they should've had it figured out months ago.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

There was a murder today by my office so everyone was sent home and I dont have to go in tomorrow. What id be doing wouldn't impede the investigation in any way, but im fine with not going in

titty_baby_ fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Feb 10, 2021

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I hate my job but I don't actually have to deal with that much bullshit (compared to others), the benefits are good, and I mostly just gently caress around and do nothing. I could be way worse off then I am.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I normally start emails formally, especially when emailing out of org, but I've also seen the worst email etiquette in my own org. Lots of reply all's asking simple questions, lots of misspelled words, no punctuation, etc

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Admin sends an organization wide email saying everyone go home for the day (usually means covid outbreak in the main office). Admin sends a follow up email saying everyone go home for the week and that were ceasing operations till next week, and to email them with any questions. Immediately a flood of reply all emails from various employees saying "but what about me?"

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

My title is something like Geographic Informations Systems/ Plant Science Specialist and what i really do is apply for grants and mow lawns

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

A Festivus Miracle posted:

Wow. When I was in college, they were telling us if you get a major in GIS, money, fame, success were gonna rain from the sky.

And then I took a grant writing class. gently caress.That.

In retrospect I wish I had taken more then the two introductory classes. My former coworker, who had a lot more GIS experience then me, left our org to make twice as much. I know a handful of GIS people who all quickly found remote work upon graduating. Im not sure if its as lucrative as other computer toucher jobs but it seems to be in demand.

The amount of GIS stuff I do at work is along the lines of "generate random plots for a survey" and "digitize these parcels". Real basic stuff.

In terms of grant writing...just lol

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Due to a murder nearby our office last week they closed the whole org and sent everyone home for the remained of the week. Our admin made it just seem like it was for the people who work in the physical office, and my boss said to find stuff to do remotely. I said screw it and put in for a personal holiday Friday because I wasn't getting anything done otherwise. Today payroll emails me saying they've corrected my time sheet from my personal holiday to admin leave, which is nice because it saves me that personal day but annoying because if this had actually been communicated I would've taken Thursday off too

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

My salutation is "sup motherfuckers"

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Its funny how ingrained formal email responses are. My boss asked me to ask the other director in our office for some training on a particular subject, and in the email they wrote everything very formally explaining how my boss has the wrong idea but that they could train me in a semi related thing. I know if I asked them in person they'd say "yeah your boss doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. That's not related in the slightest." and then we'd probably talk poo poo about him around the water cooler for another 15 minutes

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

AHH F/UGH posted:

When the pandemic started we were having daily team conference calls every weekday, Monday through Friday

Then it went to M-W-F

Then it went to just Monday and Friday

But not much changes and not many things happen on Fridays anyways, so there's often very little to discuss on Monday, so lately my boss has been somewhat conveniently "having a meeting" at the same time as our Monday or Friday meeting and needing to cancel one of them.

Not a soul has complained.

When we started we had T and F meetings. My boss has only made about half of them this year and the meetings are mostly me and our coordinator who both just have questions for our boss. No one else in the department shows up. Today I was the only person in the meeting.

We also have to fill out forms detailing how we spent our time during the day. The forms were for ICS people initially to help report time that FEMA would cover, but for unknown reasons they had all remote workers fill them out. We would turn ours in to our coordinator, who apparently turned her in to...herself?

I stopped doing them a few weeks ago because I mostly just gently caress around and coming up with lies to fill my time was stressful, and no one else was doing them anyway. The coordinator hasn't said anything to me and doesn't seem to care anymore.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

You know things are going swell when your boss dodges any attempts at communication while you work remotely, and when you finally see him in the office and ask whats going on he shrugs and says "beats me".

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

My department is undergoing its 3rd reorganization this year and this one is supposed to make my annoying coworker a supervisor, as a transparent way for the director to kick off more of his duties onto his underlings. This change was supposed to happen "in two weeks" and has been on that time frame for several months now. As of the meeting today it seems like its actually supposed to happen by tomorrow, and now my annoying coworker will essentially be my boss and approve my time cards.

I applied to a lot of places today

titty_baby_ fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 24, 2021

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

One of the best jobs I've ever had was being a student garbageman at uni. It was gross and smelly but really chill and predictable. We could take whatever we wanted and would always end up with clothes, booze, mini-fridges, non-perishable food, etc during move outs. We would do fun things like break reject ceramics in a pile, dump barrels of compost juice in the woods, and drive places no one else could

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I've applied for multiple jobs with the state and county, and have been interviewed several times, and even though they are own policies say they should contact you when the positions been filled theyve only done it once. Ive even been in the position where I was emailing the guy who would be my supervisor, who kept saying "were still waiting on HR but your name is on the shortlist, check back next week" until he eventually ghosted me

titty_baby_ fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Mar 1, 2021

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Jeza posted:

I think we know why, buddy. :hmmno:

You'd be surprised at the typos that make it into govt documents. I'd be prefect

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Having our weekly meeting, where everyone really just has questions for our boss who either doesn't answer them or isn't at the meeting.

Hes trying to promote my annoying coworker to be his assistant so he can push more of his duties on to her, but thats been in the pipeline for months now and always seems to be happening in "two more weeks".

Were in a very weird place right now. The department is mainly funded by two grants, one im more responsible for and one that the rest of the staff are under. My director was asking me what tasks I thought we may have to kick down the road due to covid, and I came up with a list to discuss, but he's dodged every attempt at me contacting him about it. Were supposed to have something ready to propose for our next grant cycle, which is related to what we may be kicking back, and hes also dodged any attempt to communicate about that and told me he's taking care of it with the agency. Ive gotten emails from said agency asking us where our proposals are so I think he's lying.

Our other main grant is over a month late for its quarterly report. Thats technically annoying coworkers job, but they've kicked it down to a useless coworker, who has done absolutely nothing for months and is on some sort of performance improvement program from HR. I was asked to help useless coworker with the quarterly report, but I don't know what they have and haven't done for that grant (not my area) and no ones reached out to me about it. The due date was extended to yesterday lol.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Outrail posted:

My new hire starts today, what stupid poo poo should I have her do to make her hate me as quickly as possible?

Passive aggressively establish a hierarchy. If she asks you something via email, forward that email to another coworker and say "hey so and so can you help new hire with this?" And then answer the question in the email.

For example, new hire asks where a form is located. Forward new hires email, with them ccd, to another coworker, saying "can you show new hire where we keep the forms in the left drawer in that one desk in the back part of the office?". Youll be simultaneously answering the question, not responding to them directly, and wasting a third parties time.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

George H.W. oval office posted:

Thats the good stuff.

My annoying coworker did this to one of my other coworkers. She was working from home and he called her to ask where a form was, and then when she ignored his call he emailed her. She got back 20 minutes later by emailing me instead with him ccd, telling me where the form was in her desk so I could show him (I didn't know where it was because its not related to my position). He can read so he got it himself. He then had a question about the form and emailed her asking. Again, she emailed me, ccing him, answering his question but directing it to me.

He used to like her as a coworker and after that the cracks began to show.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Zarin posted:

I don't think I can top the "forward email" one, but my suggestion is to try and respond to any question with either "Oh, I expected that you would already have known this, but I can answer it sure!" or "We already covered this, but I don't mind going over it again!". Bonus points if you have NOT already covered that topic!

I get the opposite from my annoying coworker, where its more like them asking me to send them something/do some mundane task that I've already done. I'll tell them I sent it already and they'll say they didn't get it. I then go find the sent message in my inbox and forward it to them again. Ive asked them if they know how to search in Gmail, and they say yes but I don't think they do. Instead of using search + sorting things into folders via Gmail they set up Google rooms for each individual person in our office, where they will then ask you poo poo + ask you to submit poo poo in that room. So our office has one big room, then every worker has there own room, and we also have another room for PO's with our procurement and finance departments, who ignore it entirely and do everything via scans and email anyway.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Larry Parrish posted:

my grandfather is adopted and the family is pretty gringo-fied anyway but people assumed I was spanish fluent at every job I've ever had so far lol. when I reported to my first duty station after tech school they had no idea who I was at first because they expected the brown looking dude from the class photo and not the 6 foot red head

Ah, los siento Miguel Sanchez. Mucho apologises

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

gently caress SNEEP posted:

I figured out my coworker was a goon, after working with him for a year, when he said "cliffyb".

I repost a lot of cursed images from the gbs thread here, and I had to admit to a coworker I go on SA because they were.convinced I was a channer

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Tetramin posted:

Lol that’s pretty loving terrible.

When I was in high school I had a boss lady who any time she heard a name that’s any more foreign than John Johnson she’d go “hmmmmm where’s THAT from??”

Trying to find that bit from the always sunny m night Shyamalan episode, where they're looking for someone to help write a movie script and they see a south Asian looking guy and approach him for help. They ask where he's from, and he says new jersey. They ask where his parents are from, and he says queens

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I am legitimately considering leaving my job to work on a weed farm. The pay is slightly higher and the commute is further, but i think I'd feel better doing agricultural work then "working from home" and lying to my employers constantly

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

I couldn't do both jobs at once. Im worried about the seasonality of it and its likely I wouldn't get as good of benefits (I essentially work in govt so my bennies r gr8). It's also way out in the countryside on lovely roads and will put a lot of wear and tear on my car.

I really hate my current job tho and my partners leaving to do their masters research for the summer so id just be alone, working from home, for months. I think that might be bad for my mental health

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

20 Blunts posted:

if i knew about it id already have taken it from you

i got a ton of heavy equipment experience and landscaping background, show me the way to weed farm

Move to northern California and look at job listing lol. Its probably the same anywhere else that's having a boom, though I'm at the heart of it

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Just got off a lovely team meeting that failed to resolve any of the ongoing issues that plague my office.

My boss has been checked out of his job for months, and works as mostly an ideas guy now while unofficially kicking all his duties to our coordinator. He's been working with HR to change our positions so the coordinator can become like the vice director, but this is always "two weeks away" and has been for months. Coordinator isn't necessarily the most qualified but puts in a good effort and is actually trying to reform our department, while no one else really cares or wants to play ball. I can tell coordinator is getting increasingly frustrated and is realizing theyre eating a poo poo sandwich.

We have an employee who was sort of hired as a favor and this employee does absolutely nothing at all. They were supposed to take over a bunch of duties from the coordinator as they move up, but they haven't done anything. Theyve been put on an employee performance plan by HR and were supposed to be checking in multiple times a day and turning in activity reports, and they've still never done that. Coordinator asks boss today about said employee (who actually works in the office and is supervised by boss) and he basically shrugs and says yeah she doesn't do anything if you don't watch her.

Coordinator asks about what our policy is for working on weekend/holidays, which was a question really directed at me, since I dodge all requests to do those things just by going straight to boss and telling him im not doing it. Official policy is that yes, employees can be made to work holidays/ weekends. Coordinator then asks about event coming up on a weekend our department was supposed to help run, and I said I won't be there, and then boss confirms its voluntary, contradicting his prior statement.

I said I would work random events if they gave us proper notice ahead of time (they never do, its always week of) and boss said they're working to have a calendar for planning these things. Hes said this for months and still never tells us anything until a week or two before, putting all the planning responsibilities on the coordinator, who then tries to delegate but fails because I dodge (and events are usually funded by another source that im not allowed to allocate from) and other employees ignore.

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Were having an employee appreciation luncheon at a restaurant the org owns, but theres no way im driving a half hour in the rain to get a mediocre lunch ill have to eat in the corner somewhere since covid is still a thing. The lifers at my org either keep there heads down and never do any sort of non work interaction with other employees, or they're related to each other and basically just hang out all day while 'working'. During the last big employee appreciation luncheon they gave out medals for the employees who had worked there over 5 years, and more then half of them never showed up for the luncheon.

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titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Riatsala posted:

This is a slightly esoteric complaint but I'm paring down a GIS database to only entries that we need for a certain project. There's two general ways of doing this: make definition queries to exclude categories you don't want or copying the database and using a combination of manual and categorical deletions to carve away everything you don't want. I'm fine with either depending on the complexity of the data extraction, but my boss feels strongly that definition queries are the only way of doing things. So I've got to create a gigantic list of SQL statements to define what the data should be rather than just... deleting what shouldn't be there.

If that's confusing, imagine you're a stone carver and you need to make a sculpts out of a cube shaped blocks. Sometimes you sculpt a wedge, sometimes a pyramid, shapes that are easy to define and carve with planar cuts using your stone saw.

Imagine now, though, that today you have to carve a bowl of fruit out of the block... but your boss won't let you use a chisel. No, you still have to use your stone saw, even if it would take 100,000 intricate, time consuming cuts. That's what I'm doing with this database right now.

Getting flashbacks to GSP 101 and having to use arc's sql statements and shuddering

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