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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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I'm ML and have a good faith question for anarchists - tons of anarchist friends but I can't really approach poo poo like this without being called a tankie so

The endgame of anarchism is to peacefully coexist alongside/within capital, correct? Are their schools within anarchism that require capitalism to end before a non-hierarchical stateless society becomes possible? Does anarchism project an end to capitalism or prescribe methods to further that end along?

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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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Orange Devil posted:

lol what no?

Anarchists are socialist my dude

Right, I understand that they lean that way, I just assumed it was understood that they'd be unable to defeat capital without a centralized state and had sort of acquiesced to the inevitability of it all. I actually think "surviving" capital is a pretty reasonable strategy in our current context, but I admit to being confused how some anarchists hope to fight capitalism without a government? At least in a way that makes them any different from Lenin? I'm a dumbass though so that isn't very surprising that I'd be confused.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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LuxuryLarva posted:

Like you know how anarchists have types? He was the "annoying/charming dirty rogue" type of anarchist. Once he shaved his beard he looked completely different and people mostly stopped recognizing him. Not me though!

This is like the "John Smith" of male anarchists

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Is Ian actually hosed or is this a meme

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
okay good

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
I thought the break everyone gave this thread in honor of Aaron was kinda sweet :unsmith:

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
I like that anarcho-nihilists and Duginists use the same symbol

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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Dr. Killjoy posted:

quit posting dumbass run of the mill libertarians just because they think it’s cool to call themselves anarchists

If they get to pick the worst commies to smear me (Peter Coffin, Haz, Caleb Maupin, etc), I get to pick the worst anarchists to smear them tit for tat


Badass that in this hypothetical scenario the US is in such bad shape that it's opened itself to a boots on the ground invasion by China

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Trots are honorary anarchists

E. As are any white Maoists other than Brace

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

do you wanna smell like piss and BO or weed and BO?

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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Atrocious Joe posted:

That segment is from a YA sci-fi fiction piece used as part of a lesson plan about prison abolition.

The whole thing is available here.
https://bit.ly/AgainstPunish

This isn't the whole thing, but gets the point across.

Is this a Le Guin homage gone wrong?

Yeah it's like dollar general Dispossessed

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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ContinuityNewTimes posted:

The worst thing about china? Not having to do your taxes yourself

Not getting to do your taxes yourself

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
People are so desperate to be given permission to treat organizing as a social club

Think of all the communists you know personally, would you really gently caress any of them

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Ultimately I think there's an important line to walk between anarcho-bidenist "organizing should combine tinder and my weed guy" ethos and dweeby suit-wearing Maupinite "prohibition was based actually" freaks

Like it's normal for humans to want to relax with cool chemicals every once in a while but not everything has to be turned into a polycule

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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


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Not So Fast posted:

I mean Maupin was also famously getting it on with activists as well.

That he was lol

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