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I always forget how many LARP goons there are out there Need to resurrect the LARP thread in trad games again
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forkboy84 posted:Though it is worth remembering that Unite did cut their contribution to the Labour coffers. (At least I think it was Unite?) Unite have not made any voluntary donations since Starmer became leader but still pay affiliation dues (though they cut that as well iirc) This has put a loving massive hole in Labour finances since Unite were the single biggest donor
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Mar 1, 2021 15:56
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OwlFancier posted:For him to be right, there would have to be a signficant group in the labour party who think starmer being elected or not is an entirely secondary concern to purging the party of socialists. The Labour right think purging leftists and making themselves electable are one and the same, they have to get rid of the "stain" of Corbyn to make themselves electable This is because they are incapable of analysing the fact that New Labour failed on its own terms and that their ideology is simply not very popular
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Mar 1, 2021 15:59
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kustomkarkommando posted:The lead candidate to replace McCluskey as GS has talked a lot more about attempting to repair relations with the Labour right and retreat from the open hostility and frankly he's probably gonna win (considering he's nominated by the united left slate). Unite have some general lovely positions - pro Heathrow 3rd runway and we had someone from Labour 4 Decrim on who said one of the worst experiences they ever had was trying to bring up sex workers rights at Unite conference and just getting a parade of people going "sex workers aren't workers, they know what they got themselves into"
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:WW2 holiday camp chat: Military wives never change
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Vitamin P posted:Bidens Democrats have listened to their left to some extent though, it's not nothing that the executive order on climate very obviously took some cues from the 'green new deal' and that Sanders has been given a role with actual power, and cannot stress enough that the party hasn't done stalinesque purges of its lefties. Compare that to Starmer and if you think the distinction is "absolutely untrue" then we can just do battle with posts, if you're arguing that Starmer has been better for the UK left than Biden has been for the US left then lets go you're provably wrong. Bitch. I've seen the take that Biden is a neoliberal who has realised that the current setup is unsustainable and some sops need to made to the left both to keep the Dems increasingly young and ethnically diverse voting bloc together, and because some amount of left wing policy is needed to stop the torch and pitchforks. Meanwhile Starmer and his team have bought fully into the idea that the left, and specifically the Labour left, are electoral poison to be denounced and ignored at every turn. It's important to note here Han Sanders never got the top job and he most the US left has done within the Democrats is push out some Congresspeople like Joe Crowley. Meanwhile in the UK Corbyn did actually take charge and threatened the gravy train of a ton of councillors, MPs and other Labour apparatchiks, and did actually convincingly lose an election which gives a lot more ammo to the right to say the electorate rejected the left.
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Mar 3, 2021 00:59
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Borrovan posted:Anglicans are catholic It's also because the Tory party has way fewer members right now - the way you get influence is by being a big donor, not being in the party structure. Twas not always thus - the Tory party in the 1960s had over 2 million members thanks to youth and women's outreach groups among other things.
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peanut- posted:I have some sympathy for Labour in that even if Sunak is trying to raise taxes, he’s not doing it to drive public spending and investment. Problem is Labour are also talking about being "fiscally responsible" while not raising taxes, which is even closer to Osborne style austerity than Sunak I reckon Dodds get canned after the May elections assuming the results are bad (and maybe even if they aren't) and I wouldn't be surprised to see a shift in Labour rhetoric on the economy. OTOH it seems like Labour have proper backed themselves into a corner and would officially be flailing if they try another "reset" so soon.
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Mar 3, 2021 14:02
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Borrovan posted:The most brutal peacetime cuts in UK history possibly have since been retrofitted as sensible centrism, it's what people want, not like those awful populists like Johnson and Corbyn which are definitely the same thing It's so galling because it's just ***obviously not true*** There's so much polling that shows that the majority of people are fine with tax rises to rebuild public services, that fiscal austerity was never popular and that people right now do not give a gently caress about balancing the books Just maddening how the current leadership has managed to pin themselves to economic policy that is both morally wrong and unpopular at the same time
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Mar 3, 2021 14:18
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Jose posted:its going to be rachel "we'll be tougher than the tories on those who get benefits" reeves taking over Nandy has equal odds I reckon There's also the possibility Keith gets another nobody in who he can safely can if his policies turn out to be unpopular
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Mar 3, 2021 14:19
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There's also the fact that the economic downside to raising taxes could be a hit on consumer confidence, but the government could do fiscal stimulation to drive that up (and there is in fact a lot of scope for that right now due to the huge number of underemployed people and decaying infrastructure)
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Mar 3, 2021 16:55
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Niric posted:Not to defend Annalise Dodds, but "push 1.3 million low paid workers into the tax system" is exactly the sort of disengenuous framing of freezing the personal allowance that you'd expect from the Daily Mail's political editor. It depends on the rest of the Dodds statement right I think it says a lot that I don't trust that she would have made the connection that goons have made that there are more progressive options Also, wasn't the whole point this that the new leadership were supposed to be savvy media operators who would avoid traps like this?
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Mar 4, 2021 12:07
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Gonzo McFee posted:It's weird because a few years ago Harry was the royal everyone liked regardless of position on the royal family. Amazing that all it took was marrying a beautiful black woman to get rid of that. listen a lot of the chaps in afghan had mental health, you know, so make sure you just ring up your best bloke and see if he's alright
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Mar 4, 2021 18:07
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Mar 4, 2021 18:37
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Who could have possibly foreseen this
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Mar 4, 2021 19:30
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There's a pretty plausible theory that the right will try and install Jess Phillips again - the problem the right will have (and have had in the past) is that they're all such blatant careerists it's hard for them to work together
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Mar 5, 2021 10:21
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Yeah Labour can run on a fash lite platform but thats a self correcting problem because it will just never work at the ballot box, though there is the risk of irreversibly loving up the Labour party as a whole. I think that after May Labour might turn to be more economically radical, and I think that's something that would happen under Nandy more than the other candidates. I distinctly get the impression that Keith and his immediate posse are more right wing than the rest of the PLP; rumour is that Dodds wanted to be more left wing on the economy but Keith didn't, and now she will likely get the can for it because Keith is not about to admit his ideas are bad. The one thing that will really lose Keith internal support is letting up the internal war on the left - whenever the right go mask off they admit their *entire* strategy is to purge Corbynism out of Labour, because that's the only thing standing between defeat and victory. Related note: the Labour right are loving idiots.
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Lungboy posted:The next leadership battle will be Phillips vs Reeves vs Nandy. Someone from the left will get on - the SCG have enough people to get someone on the ballot barring a rules change (which is not out of the question) The real battle will again be for the soft left membership and the waverers in the PLP
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Mar 5, 2021 11:31
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Darth Walrus posted:Because they don't think of it as a matter of values. They want employment in the business of politics, either for life or as a platform to better jobs later, and they go with who's hiring. Also the Lib Dems are loving proven losers, if you can brownnose your way up the Labour ranks you're much more likely to be able to get a safe seat As for the Tories - frankly I think a lot of them do. Look at Rishi Sunak and tell me you couldn't imagine him in Starmer's shadow cabinet. I think people do overstate the outright cynicism of the Labour right - while there are pure careerists I think most of them are true believers that New Labour was good and they are defending liberal capitalism from both a regressive left and callous small state Tories. The problem is their analysis is so flawed they haven't actually got an accurate view of the public, themselves, the left, or the Tories, and so are incapable of actually winning a public vote.
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Mar 5, 2021 13:17
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Comrade Fakename posted:Another quote from that interview (with Tucker Carlson's website, btw): What Ferguson happened under Obama Matt Taibbi is another journo who has gone completely off the deep end recently
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Mar 5, 2021 13:18
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crispix posted:tinned strawberries, dear oh dear Tinned fruit is good in pies though I admit strawberry would not be my first choice. Freezing fruit is better than canning it imo
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Mar 5, 2021 15:17
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crispix posted:starmer was on tv today and it is obvious someone has told him that he needs to smile when he's talking The Starmy Relaunches
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Mar 5, 2021 17:55
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Yvette Cooper and Ed Miliband are apparently angling for the shadow chancellor job but are unlikely to get it, tbh But there is not a clear successor by any means, made all the messier by the fact there is no "Starmerite" faction - if and when the PLP decides he needs to go (which I don't think will happen before 2024) it will happen very quickly and be a total melee.
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Mar 5, 2021 19:01
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Mar 6, 2021 20:36
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Milo Edwards has a great but in Trashfuture about the particular type of British guy who just *loves* going to the tip, to the point of knowing the names of the guys at the top and coming up with excuses to go. Extremely British Dad energy
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Mar 6, 2021 21:04
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The Venn diagram of people demanding claps and people who use the story of people refusing to be the first to stop clapping after a Stalin speech is a circle
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My mate has a bunch of conditions and a sunflower lanyard, but doesn't have breathing trouble so wears a mask. She regularly gets people coming up to her saying "oh you're exempt, you don't need to wear a mask love!"
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OwlFancier posted:Is youse not a UK wide thing? No I say folks but it's an adopted thing Saying y'all or all y'all sounds like you are doing a bit so I don't do that
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Mar 7, 2021 21:42
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Angepain posted:if this thread were to stop having unproductive arguments and escalating every conflict it would lose its status as a vital object of academic study in the debilitating psychological effects of Britain on the mind. do you hate science In Britain you either die a UKMTer or live long enough to become a TERF
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Right wing groups are just as bad, they just have unbelievable amounts of money behind them so you have to take them seriously
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EvilHawk posted:It certainly seems like the interview provided no new information. People in the Royal Family are racist. Privileged people don't care about mental illness. If you annoy them they'll cut all your money off and force you to do massive media blitzes to make ends meet. Charlie boy has actual ambitions for the royal family and wants to reform things though - he wants the British royal family to be more like the European ones with a smaller core and make the whole thing less public. If you're outside the immediate core royal family you has better get a job because the gravy train is drying up. Also he's probably a fash
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Mar 8, 2021 11:01
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I think Charles understands that without the goodwill of Brenda the monarchy needs to be less expensive and less of a scandal magnet, which is why he wants to make the whole thing more boring and professional. Def agree that he wants that crown though
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Mar 8, 2021 11:16
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Guavanaut posted:It'll be a good time to widen any cracks that form. DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE POSTBOXES SAID ER ON THEM?!?! BRING THEM BACK!!!!!!! 
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Mar 8, 2021 11:18
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It's also almost certainly William who kicked off the smear campaign against Harry and Meghan anyway, when Harry tried to out the fact that William was shagging around (like Charles did to their mum)
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feedmegin posted:Hmm was Harry known for being down with the swirl back in day? I could see that, Nazi parties notwithstanding. He was just a party lad, I remember they had to fudge his A level results so he could get into Sandhurst because he was partying instead of studying
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Mar 8, 2021 14:38
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This antiracist group sound like they would agree with the logical end point of "cultural appropriation" thinking by certain groups, which is that every race and culture need to be forcibly separated from each other and live at a distance from the centre of the community based on how much privilege their race/culture has
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Mar 8, 2021 16:09
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Guavanaut posted:I was going to say, horseshoe theory is BS but "using other words for wh!t3 so that the facebook elites don't ban us" is something that I'd expect from the deepest of nazi dipshit groups. The maddest I have ever made people online is talking about fishhook theory to libs who really love bombing people
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Also GW have increased the complexity of the design of their miniatures in part to make 3d printing harder People also underestimate the difficulty of the scanning/3d modelling to get a GW quality miniature - you're paying a premium of convenience. The other thing that GW did is go heavy in licensing, they didn't used to for some reason but with the change in CEO a few years back they had a change of heart which is basically an excuse to print money
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CoolCab posted:regular printing didn't kill M:tG. neither did high end counterfeiting really - wizards doesn't make money selling cards, they sell analogue loot boxes and tournament infrastructure. Arena is the huge moneymaker now anyway, Arena makes up a not insignificant amount of Hasbro's earnings
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Rupert of Hentzau posted:(Although the one thing they still won't tolerate is potentially enabling a direct competitor. It's suspected that the reason FFG lost their long-running GW license is because they were finding success in the miniatures business themselves with their X-Wing game.) The actual story is funnier than that - basically FFG we're doing a wheeze where they were trying to thread a needle; - They had the right to Star Wars miniatures, but not board games (Hasbro had that) - They had the right to GW board games, but not miniatures, and could not make any other miniatures games This led to them classing games like Imperial Assault as either board games or miniatures games depending on who they were talking to. Eventually GW got pissed of enough to cut the deal first.
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