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gentle reminder that these captains of industry, these people who have written NYT bestsellers on management, these new wunderkinds that were the subject of many glowing Forbes lead pieces, managed a company of approximately 55. So less people than the average american supermarket.
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Hammerite posted:we're cutting all your benefits. but we'll give you the cash value of those benefits this year for free! what's that? next year? oh... i'm needed in the basement that thing is fine with me, as is getting rid of 360s. they said they were trading benefits for profit sharing.
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flakeloaf posted:say hello to drew e. pheberson xD
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Achmed Jones posted:maybe this is me showing my rear end, but the funniest thing to me is that the person linking genocide to making fun of finish* surnames or whatever really does sound like they were being a bit extra. dhh/otherguy could've just been like "hey, whoa, name erasure is a huge problem, but come on here, folks are laughing at Phil Mahiney, not being racist about it. of course it's very easy to go from one to the other, and it's unprofessional anyway, so cut it the gently caress out, it's wrong, and it's not right." my money is on the list being mostly like "Dick Chardnutts" with the occastional guy named Wang. but the important takeaway is exactly this: quote:but instead we get....this. if people are going too far with hyperbole, the move is to say "cool your jets on the hyperbole" not light your company on fire lmao
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honestly none of this would be even remotely newsworthy if these dipshits hadnt been held up as management wunderkinds for the last decade or so
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its like ... idk, it's like some bigshot famous hunter getting killed by a rabbit or something.
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Buff Hardback posted:per casey newton: basecamp employees sound easy to mortify
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is it really cancel culture if you're just dunking on people for being dumb as hell?
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Blasécamp
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"dont talk about politics at work is: good when it means
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the issue at basecamp is NOT about whether politics is ok at work, the issue at basecamp is the STUPENDOUSLY boneheaded reactions of two Information Age Mangement Wunderkinds to a dumbass list of funny names.
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my homie dhall posted:publicly posting the "pyramid of hate" in response to a list containing seymour butz is actually dumb as poo poo. and yeah, if the person posting the pyramid ever contributed a name it's doubly stupid and going back over years of comment history to find the person who posted the pyramid of hate laughing at seymour butz as though that is a refutation is likewise stupid, but the only hilariously newsworthy one is the managers response, for reasons we've already noted.
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i just cannot get enough of this public airing of dirty laundry https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22418208/basecamp-all-hands-meeting-employee-resignations-buyouts-implosion
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quote:But as much as the conversation about Basecamp’s moves has been framed as “politics,” it seems important to remember that the entire affair began when a third of the company — not all of whom are among the 20 who have departed so far, by the way — volunteered to help the company become more diverse and equitable. It was only when their committee dug a skeleton out of the company closet — that list of names — that Fried and Hansson moved to shut the whole thing down. remember: these dudes wrote like 5 books about how to be great managers
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a.p. dent posted:lmao okay yeah gently caress dhh and jason they've already hosed themselves far, far harder than you or I ever could have
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quote:In Rework, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson introduced a new path to working effectively. Now, they build on their message with a bold, iconoclastic strategy for creating the ideal company culture—what they call "the calm company."
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doin great Jase!
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buttchugging adderall posted:oh my god DHH could not even be bothered to GET OUT OF BED to try to save his company from imploding. look i know this is the worst thing that's happened to my company in 20 years but my tummy hurts
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again, the names are funny. No one is disputing that. But keeping a list is haraam. If they are funny enough, you will remember them.
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Gentle Autist posted:maybe, maybe not, but as a manager and a self-professed galaxy brain you should be able to handle something like this without flying off the handle and loving up your company and reputation
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the old boy network is the real affirmative action
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psiox posted:the pinboard guy is pretty proud of being on team dhh and it's just incredibly disappointing I'm not seein it but i am seeing this and agree 100% https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1387622478873169925
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chestnut santabag posted:Wouldn't this be a breach of customer privacy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDHvYdi6Bu4
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nvrgrls posted:I thought the pinboard guy was cool the pinboard guy is mostly cool but there's deffo some clunkers in that catalog
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Zamujasa posted:i thought FCS was behind poo poo like stack overflow / discourse / fogbugz or whatever snack overflow is jef fatwood fogbugz is joel spolsky idk who discourse is
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the talent deficit posted:nah. stack overflow is also owned by sposky and discourse spun out of stack overflow but fog creek (now glitch) only does glitch i think. i think even fogbugz got sold "The website was created by Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky in 2008.[7]" huh. i did not remember that.
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the dude was in bed the whole time ok cut him some slack
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Blotto_Otter posted:Frankly, I'm impressed by how they took the many goofy things they were doing and then abruptly changed those goofy things in the goofiest, most dramatic, most disruptive way possible. that's what makes it so funny
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Maximo Roboto posted:I just wonder if there's anyone else bothering to criticize VCs you mean like publicly successful people with a media voice? pinboard dude springs to mind.
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MrQueasy posted:del.icio.us successor. fact: pinboard eventually bought delicious, then killed it
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when I was a telemarketer i had to call this guy and you better believe me and everyone around me had a solid chuckle https://www.linkedin.com/in/hunt-ramsbottom-137293a/
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qirex posted:the most important takeaway to me is that they didn't fire the nazi they "suspended" him "pending an investigation" then he resigned
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refleks posted:point still holds. nazis should get fired
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Achmed Jones posted:get this: 
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So a while back at an old job we were interviewing for new engineering managers who'd oversee all devs (around 40-50 at the time). So they had various leads come in to interview him, and i was one of them. The guy was probably 32? Real handsome and tanned with shoulder-length hair. Gave me his card, he had some ridiculous east coast wealth name like Westerbrooke or something. I decided to ask him about a 2 year gap on his resume. He told me he'd taken the time to backpack around India and that it really "opened his eyes to a lot of things" and recommended I give it a try someday. I went through his list of jobs. None were longer than two years. There were i think 8-10 of them. Every one of them was either "founder" or "cto" or "VP of Engineering" and, as it turns out, each was either one he'd started himself or one that his friends had started. They all failed due to some variation of running out of money. Every single one of them. So a couple days later we all got together for a debrief. Everyone in the room loved him, praised his extensive experience as a high powered engineering leader and noting his extensive industry experience. Other than myself, a total of zero people noted that his resume was a litany of failure and all his experience was at being a massive failson money pit. Exec hiring is a farce.
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i am saddened to hear about the pinboard dude
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the nice thing is that the dude or dudes responsible for bringing that guy in have probably limited their career growth significantly
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mystes posted:Oh come on, it's not like they didn't know he had written the book. yeah but how likely is it that they actually read it
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