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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


PNGYAKUZA posted:

What a fella, is this supposed to make him look tough, down to earth? If anything it makes him look like a clown which tbf worked wonders for BoJo

They've correctly realised kier just isn't as funny as bojo so theyr trying to close the funny gap

Theyr doing a really good job of it but I just don't know if it'll be enough

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Did you wanna know how I got this sir

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Speaking of clean bums I went to get mine poked by a doctor and got a clean bill of bum health

Recommended to other Goons too, just prepare yourself they really rummage around in there

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


sinky posted:

Several puppies, apparently.

Lol

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


It bugs me that the media has decided the vaccine bounce exists when I'm not sure there's any reason to believe that's what's going on.
It seems to more be media pr for the tories.

I think Boris is just popular sadly

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Failed Imagineer posted:

Posting this with the caveat that I know it's "Terrible person links to terrible article about terrible people"

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1388912978301440004?s=19

But loving hell that's dire

10 years without Chorizo...

I dunno I plan to give up meat on my death bed and cash in those final 10 years. I guess I can still eat crisps and biscuits

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


BalloonFish posted:



Did anyone actually read the 2019 manifesto, or is it just an article of faith now that it just said "All toilets to be gender neutral and free broadband" on every page?


Of the very few dedicated freaks who watch PMQs and think it matters, a small dedicated core of those freaks will read the manifesto and think it matters

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I think it's astonishingly unlikely we get a viable new left wing party but it's also astonishingly unlikely we can turn labour into that

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Bacon isn't even a good meat imo

All the animals would eat us if the situation was reversed so really industrial mass killing of them is morally neutral at worse

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


By the time I've eaten all the world's fish they will hopefully have invented a good veggie sausage

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



This is a tune

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I'm gonna vote greens

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


peanut- posted:

Is this guy actually big or is Rishi just really tiny

https://twitter.com/latgalia/status/1390226452050759680?s=20

He's real small afaik op

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Tesseraction posted:

The Loyal Cerberus Scenario B always gets me.

loving...


Yeah.

Also my partner is so upset about Beepy

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Tesseraction posted:

Can't tell if a dude with a clearly Asian name complaining about wokeness is funny or actually good.

the primary enemy of fascism is the left not any race

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



Yeah crises are famously not the time for big thinking and pushing new policies

Theyr so incompetent lol its awesome

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/gemmacdoyle/status/1390685738195464192

The problem is we spend too much time fighting the hard left. To remedy this we need to fight the hard left even more.

I love this poo poo coz they did end the infighting. they purged the left and this election is partly the result of that

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Jel Shaker posted:

the worst thing for kier is that the welsh elections are such a clear repudiation of any of his preplanned excuses that it was corbyn and his completely useless covid response didn’t matter

yeah, i dont think that will change their messaging or strategy at all in the media. since theyr just gonna claim it was corbyn anyway.

but i do think that and his loving terrible interview have gotta have the sharks circling a bit. when they asked him "but what will you change?" and he says "we have to stop labour infighting" thats death right there.
in a bad time you don't unprompted bring up your own party's infighting on the BBC lol

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Gay sports day is a great username

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Willie rennie no!

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Nandy is on the labour right just not a blairite so that's another faction alienated

Mind you theyr harnessing the power of the JessHive

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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A family member of mine has worked with starmer and says he's an arrogant prick, given the family member that's saying something

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Azza Bamboo posted:

At this rate Jessflaps is going to have a shot at the leadership.

I think she's gonna take it this time

We all laughed at her but both my boomer parents like her

E though historically nobody my parents vote for becomes leader so RIP

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Josef bugman posted:

Gods Bones.

I think I can officially call time on the idea of Starmer being an intelligence agency asset. If he is MI5 is so loving angry at the moment.

Being an incompetent failure would be evidence for not against, surely

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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sebzilla posted:

"No of course she's not sacked, she's been promoted to, uh..."

*grabs random sheet of paper from desk and reads it*

"Shadow Home Secretary? Bloody hell, Nick's not going to be happy about this."

Lol

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Failed Imagineer posted:

"Me bad want votes now, me sick".

Mandelson: "oooh he card read good"

LOL again

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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JordanKai posted:

Things are moving too quickly for me to keep up. Is Starmer really shagging Jenny Chapman or is that just a meme? The past 48 hours have been so ridiculous that I can't keep fact from fiction any more.

It's probably just coz she's a woman and the British press is sexist and childish

But otoh it's funny so it's definitely true

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Josef bugman posted:

It's just pathetic. The Labour Right have proven themselves even less capable than the left and are going to continue down this damnable pathway for as long as they can because they are, ultimately, feckless.

I hope one day the labour left and right can unify
to display a level of incapability unseen in political history

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Are there any mechanisms in the labour party to force a leadership election and any factions capable or willing to do so?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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McDonnell was a poo poo shadow chancellor who signed up to Osborne austerity while simultaneously bringing maos book into the commons for the world's most ill advised political stunt

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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It was the worst of both worlds imo, austerity economics while also waving around krazy kommie stuff

And with the purpose of accusing Osborne of being too commie iirc

E corbyn had his own problems but was a lot better choice as leader imo.

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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OwlFancier posted:

I don't think there are very many people who think of 2016-19 labour and think "they were too pro austerity"...

i think thats probably true, afaik its just been me.
its pretty hard to tell after the fact what individual events hosed us

but imo it did mark the corbyn team as not understanding economics and not actually being interested in the reality of transformative policy, it was basically just PR to reassure.... i dont really know who, neoliberals? I think the FT crowd would have actually been interested in an alternative economic plan.

I suppose more likely they just didn't really know enogh to take initiative on it, which is most MPs interaction with economics. so they had the new economists they breifly pretended to listen to explaining complicated things to them but theyve also got the times financial editor or whoever going "well its like a credit card innit"

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Aramoro posted:

Did you not see the voxpop from Hartlepool where they said they voted Tory because of Labour's austerity?

i think theyr talking about local government there, which may well be pro-austerity labour ghouls

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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yea i dont think electorally it was a bad thing, i think like... grip on reality wise it was a bad thing.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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yeah i agree with owl that the labour right, similar to the labour left, genuinely beleive their own policies and ideology is both Correct and actually really popular if given a chance
(difference is we actually are Correct and pretty much demonstrably more popular currently, if still not popular enough)

thats why the blairites are trying to purge not just the left but the centre left and blue labour and basically every other group

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Azza Bamboo posted:

Each idea is a territory, and Starmer handed all of Labour's to the Tories. There was no fight, only concession after concession, and for what quid pro quo exactly? It's shitweak and senseless.

The Tories have taken the territory of housing stability, and the territory of youth jobs prospects, and the territory of a way through this pandemic. What does Labour have? Even the Lib Dems had plastic bags and AV when they were operating as a Tory subsidiary. They had the discourse over nuclear power, too.

Greens have the environment, and that will be an increasingly crucial territory. Labour has got to claim something, else the greens will fill the vacuum of opposition that Labour leave behind.

JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS


WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Bobby Deluxe posted:

I'm not going to tell her what to do, but I've made it clear that I don't want him knowing where we live and that we really shouldn't encourage him.

I have BAMO'd and while I have encouraged her to do the same I'm really not a 'put my foot down' type of husband.

I fully anticipate him moving in with us in a year. :sigh:

It's not really putting your foot down its communicating your boundaries

The alternative is you just stay quiet and get angrier at everyone involved, which is an attactive strategy but not a great one

It's also nicer imo to tell someone to gently caress off than to hate them behind their back forever until you're both in the same old folks home

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Why would you vote for raynor over butler

The Labour Party sucks

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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I think I'd sooner turn into dust and blow away than want Burnham as leader.

Not for any rational reason, the idea of it just makes me so, so tired

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Jakabite posted:

Yeah, I think the common theme is that leftists have a tendency to have faith in the rightness of their ideas to the point that they believe that if others are just exposed to their ideas they will, naturally, see that rightness. I and I’m sure many others fell into that trap when Corbyn was elected - the public were finally going to be properly exposed to socialist ideas, and when that happens their correctness will be self-evident! Realistically although we are right, from average Joe’s perspective we aren’t any more right than anyone else and will still have to engage in all the same techniques and tactics to win them over.

Yeah, interestingly I think this might also be the blairites delusion too lol

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