xtothez posted:

When the fully vaccinated Tory-voting boomers have booked all the cheap holidays

Still Dismal posted:

Imo it’s far more likely that Labour are eating poo poo for pretty much the same reason they ate poo poo in 2019: center left and SocDem parties are getting squeezed all over Europe. I don’t think Corbyn made a huge difference in 2019 and I don’t think Starmer made a huge difference this time honestly.

Then again Brexit is a uniquely UK thing, so who the gently caress knows.

stev posted:

The first one destroyed me for a day but I was absolutely fine after the second.

BalloonFish posted:

I was going to say 'so Starmer's first move in his plan to change the party to appeal to the traditional base is to sack the state-educated northern woman who used to be a social worker' but he seems to managed an even more alienating way of doing that:

xtothez posted:

I just got a text for my first jab and it's only giving me the option to book for Wednesday, which will already be my busiest day this week. Is that normal or should I have the option to pick another day? I assume if I just leave it and try again tomorrow it'll offer me Thursday instead.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I have been mistaken for a woman from behind on more than one occasion because I have long hair, twice by waitresses and once by some random guy in the street who I assume was ready to start chatting me up. I'm waiting for the time when the latter happens but they become incandescent with rage because they were, for a moment, accidentally gay

Borrovan posted:

Rayner was the Momentum candidate

Borrovan posted:

Same thing in Northern Ireland, the peaceful civil rights movement was violently crushed by the State so violence became the only solution: the problem isn't with that part of the argument, it's where people make the leap from "some violence is justified" to "therefore any violence is justified so I guess I'll just blow up a schoolbus or w/e".

Comrade Fakename posted:

Sounds like your mate has the secret inside knowledge of looking at the news because scrapping the FTPA was in the Queen's Speech.

Comrade Fakename posted:

Gen Xers were always poo poo, they're the centrist demographic. Millennials will, on average, get richer as they get older, due to career progression and inheritance. But they're starting from a dramatically lower point, and frankly that inheritance is going to be squat for most, as fortunes are eaten up by elder care costs and then split among siblings.

Barry Foster posted:

if it was a case of just pressing a button or giving the nod or something then yeah, probably


That's entirely correct, yeah. Using that particular phrase is one of the ultimate ways people can tell on themselves

EDIT


Nah, I definitely do think that it's a much smaller hardcore of people who would personally hurt or kill another person, if only because a lot of people might want to do it but be too cowardly to do it themselves

RDevz posted:

From a few pages back, but the Oxford Union is an organisation that's independent from the university, so any attempts to force them to invite objectionable speakers by pressuring universities is likely to be about as effective as Keith's leadership.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Wouldn't a lower uptake mean you get it faster? Unless we're defining "uptake" to be synonymous with "vaccination"

forkboy84 posted:

Because when people like Angus Robertson, Nicola Sturgeon & most of the rest of the MSPs joined the SNP it wasn't a cushy job guaranteeing government for life. There's an awful lot of true believers. That probably changes the long they are in forever-government, but it's not like it's been that long since being in the SNP as a politician gave you little chance of being more than a councillor as there was no Holyrood & they'd only get 5-10 MPs.

Borrovan posted:

Honestly didn't know Jacobites were still around in 1992

mehall posted:

We try to be pretty open to anyone from here, but with kiwi farms etc around, having a wall of some sort has a lot of value.

jaete posted:

Yep that's the biological context. In Tolkien it seems that elves and humans are on some level the same species but different subspecies (or different "races"), since they can produce viable offspring. It immediately gets a bit difficult though since the offspring of half-elves can choose for themselves whether they want to be elves (immortal) or humans (short-lived, but... with no upsides I guess?), so there's some literal magic involved

But Tolkien never mentions (afaik) any other half-anything, for example dwarves or ents never get involved in that kind of stuff. Maiar (Gandalf etc) seem to be above reproduction, except actually one of them apparently had viable offspring with an elf, and... yeah, in general it's murky and mostly unexplored.

I don't really want to think about authors other than Tolkien since it usually gets quite depressing and also very stupid

Borrovan posted:

Had a lengthy discussion about this one time during a webcam game of The One Ring, which involved lots of googling & poring through his letters & diaries &c. iirc the outcome was that whilst there isn't really a sufficient case to say that he was an antisemite, there's definitely enough dodgy poo poo in there that I wouldn't go on record saying he wasn't

Regarde Aduck posted:

there's no way our dour little country could sustain his giant coked up brain. We don't even have wendy's

NotJustANumber99 posted:

So the police are evil, violent thugs dishing out violence indiscriminantly but also coward losers that took one look and ran away. Great.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

They texted and emailed me last night to cancel my second vaccination. No idea why.

Link to rebook it.

I'm now having it 10 miles closer and almost a month earlier.

Soylent Yellow posted:

Not created until the 1860s.

18th century dissolute aristocrats had to make do with laudanum.

Z the IVth posted:

Do we even have a basic domestic armaments industry or are the bullets also produced in China/India?

crispix posted:

doing your messages is a NI thing as well

"redding up" meaning tidying up seems to be more localised to the bit i'm from but is apparently also somehow a thing in pittsburgh, PA

getting a skelf meaning a splinter, calling a woodlouse a slater. i could go on but it would most likely be very boring for everyone else

Barry Shitpeas posted:

Isn't all the classically trained ac-tor stuff mainly about projecting your voice in the theatre? Surely they'd have had to do that in the Globe or wherever as well

Unkempt posted:

My Massachusetts wife used to buy beer at the 'package store' which was shortened to 'the packy'.

Didn't take long in Britain to find out that that one didn't travel.

ThomasPaine posted:

:Screams in historian:

His Divine Shadow posted:

And on top of that we're also old societies.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Going to have to disagree with you about the Yanks, who have the fake optimism and brightness of someone trying to get you to sign up to an MLM (it's called capitalism).

keep punching joe posted:

If I was the leader of the Labour group in Durham County Council I would have simply negotiated my own coalition.

You would expect the largest party to be able to do such a thing?

goddamnedtwisto posted:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Lot of Catholics very, very angry that a twice-divorcee has managed to get married at the big house when official Catholic doctrine is that divorced people can't get married in a Catholic ceremony *at all* (apparently they only stopped officially excommunicating divorcees who remarry outside the church really recently).

Jel Shaker posted:

guess who invented them

goddamnedtwisto posted:

In fairness most of the Temperance movement (which includes a lot of the Methodists and other do-gooders that found themselves in the Fabians) was never about prohibition (ribboners and other imported weirdos aside), rather about abstention, and even then mostly just from spirits, particularly gin. Partly this was pragmatic though - as was discussed upthread, the state of the drinking water in most British cities made getting completely bladdered a considerably safer bet. Campaigning to get rid of gin - which was often so poorly distilled that they had to add sulphuric acid just to get rid of the meths, even before they flavoured it with turps - was definitely a good thing.

Semi-related, I have heard a theory that one of the main reasons Britain never got swept up in the revolutionary fervour of the 18th and 19th centuries is that the Glorious Revolution, as well as being an important step between absolutism and sort-of democracy, also bought gin to these shores. While the Americans, French, and the rest went to war for Truth, Justice, Freedom, Reasonably Priced Love, and a Hard-Boiled Egg, the Brits got pissed instead. It's certainly an interesting idea, and one that sheds a new light on America finally admitting defeat in the War On Some Drugs, because they sure as poo poo haven't had a Damascene conversion on the actual morality of it.

ThomasPaine posted:

I feel like we need to update our language on this kind of thing because obviously the holocaust is a very different thing to a lot of other events we describe as genocidal, but these are very emotive subjects so any attempt to bring nuance to them is often met with accusations of denialism. Like, you can argue that British policy towards the Highlands following the jacobite rebellions was technically genocidal in that it sought to stamp out a particular culture that threatened the established power structures, but I don't think the way that implicitly creates an equivalence with Nazi Germany is helpful for understanding either because clearly there's a big difference between literally being marched to an industrial death camp and not being allowed to wear a kilt/speak gaelic.

British concentration camps in South Africa were again loving awful, but more tools of colonial power than anything else. That's not at all to say they weren't atrocities. I would suggest a distinction between active and passive genocide might be useful, with UK concentration camps being part of the latter while Auschwitz and maybe something like Rwanda being the former. It gets a little muddier with settler colonial states that used both strategies at different times though. But we do need to be able to soberly talk about these things without feeling like making those distinctions somehow rehabilitates any of them.

The Question IRL posted:

You'd think it would be worse in the US, because it was weaponized into "They want to be able to use Bathrooms without judgement. Which is just a front so they can legally do horrible things to your kids."

But no, they are all over the UK. I think it's down to the fact that the UK people, as a whole, just love the taste of boot. There are just so many people who are happy to talk about the rules, and the proper way or doing things and so on that if enough of the "right people" tell them something, they will go along with it.