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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


The Welsh Nude and Proud Party’s logo is absolutely incredible.

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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/dmreporter/status/1388523082365734919

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


What is spiritual abuse?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Guavanaut posted:

Usually stuff like constantly invoking threats of hellfire etc. against kids to get your way to the point where it messes them up in later life. Psychological/emotional abuse with a religious twist.

It ties in with the other forms of abuse in cases in that often that's how they managed to get everyone to stay quiet for so long.

To the shock of nobody, the types of people that will use lurid claims about everyone else eating babies and only the conservative Republicans don't eat babies love doing that poo poo.

I mean, Jesus explicitly says in the gospels that anyone who doesn’t worship him as a living god on Earth would suffer infinite torture. So this seems like a kind of wide net.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Guavanaut posted:

If he was only saying that to get his wife to do the dishes that would meet the standard of controlling and manipulative behaviour in a relationship.

Well, I doubt Jesus did his own dishes.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Mr Phillby posted:

Someone once hit me with the argument that windfarms are a scam because only a percentage of wind energy gets turned into power so they're actually very wasteful if you think about it.

Well, if turbines aren’t performing their primary goal of stopping all wind dead, then what’s the point of them?!

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


crispix posted:

most of us working in the NHS thought clapclap time was some weird poo poo after the first one

Yeah, but the reason wasn’t because the NHS are too conceited now.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I just got a BBC news alert on my phone and what weirdo would refer to tomorrow's election as "a bumper day of voting"?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Isn't American fake meat much better than ours because they have GM ingredients? You'd think Brexit would be good for one thing at least.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


josh04 posted:

What are the youtube guys' policies for London mayor? Anything poo poo enough to make him not worth voting for?

You mean Brian Rose? He's a loving mental covid denier scammer. Absolutely do not vote for him.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


peanut- posted:

Labour are rubbish and Khan is fairly rubbish but I will vote for him anyway for this reason really. It’s about the best thing that can come from any of the Mayoral candidates.

https://twitter.com/piercepenniless/status/1389991050941505538?s=20

It’s totally true. One of the best indicators of a racist is a particularly animated opinion about Sadiq Khan.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/AbiWilks/status/1390052118220922884

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


A good thread:

https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1390195275428503553

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Sanitary Naptime posted:

:siren: Podcast Announcement :siren:

Hello everyone,

There comes a time when it becomes necessary to betray the Citizen Soviets and centralise power for the good of the people. With that in mind, Podcasting is Praxis is selling out, and has slimmed down to five people: David, Jamie, James, Rob, and Alasdair.

It was fun doing the podcast as a bigger collective, but we've reached the point where to continue to grow we need to be more organised and consistent, and better able to plan. We looked at the numbers, and for a while now it's been more or less the same steady crew, and that's coincided with a massive increase in listeners. We're over 1k an episode easily now, which is loving wild.

We also need to eat. Jamie has been living on scrapings from our t-shirt sales for a while, and meanwhile people have been asking if they can give us money. So, to give the people what they want, we have a Patreon now.

That's it. There's nothing more to say. We'll still be here, posting too much, and still putting out episodes. Cheers for reading.

You should probably give a link to the patreon?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Common sense ideas:

https://twitter.com/HKesvani/status/1390612256287776768

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


DrSunshine posted:

I'm a US-person, so forgive me for my ignorance, but I'm rather fascinated by the fact that you have like six parties in your election. I was under the impression that the UK has a first-past-the-post system, so shouldn't that have mathematically caused the system to trend towards having only two? How is it that the smaller parties can still exist and get votes?

The reason the US has such a rigid two-party system is the presidential election. It's all-or-nothing so only huge parties can compete. There's no reason why smaller parties couldn't get traction in the US in more local elections, but the presidential one encourages against it. FPTP does benefit larger parties, but it's still possible for smaller parties to make at least a little headway in a parliamentary system.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I would suggest that it would be a good idea to join or rejoin the Labour Party at this point.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012



I’m being very serious. If there’s a leadership contest we don’t know when the cutoff point for joining will be. It could be immediate.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


kyojin posted:

Wouldn't it be backdated? Still might rejoin, a month or two isn't going to cost me much and I've had two days now of good wholesome chuckles

^ if pipe smoking dog is correct then I'm already a unite member so no need I guess. I must have known this at some point, my loving memory has disintegrated

In previous leadership elections, for instance the last one, there was a period of time after the election was called that people could join in and still vote. Will that happen again if there’s another contest now? There’s no way to guarantee it.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


blues thief posted:

Absolutely agree that now is the best time to rejoin Labour and won't be spun as "Actually the influx of new members is proof that Starmer's winning people over!"

I don’t think anyone would seriously be convinced by that. Were people und er the impression that an influx of members after the 2019 election was good for the Corbynite left?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Nothingtoseehere posted:

Eligibility for a leadership election is determined by the NEC, which Starmer still doesn't fully control (especially without the DLOC vote). But the best move is to join an affliated union, yea.

Starmer may not control the NEC, but there are still plenty on there that might not want a left-winger winning in a leadership contest.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/stefgotbooted/status/1391143147753910277

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Graun blaming Corbyn / Covid / GE2019 not Starmer but with quite a lot of hedging on the subject of 'Starmer needs to pull his finger out'.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/09/keir-srarmer-act-urgently-rescue-labour-from-plight

And exactly whose fault is it that Starmer's cabinet has no 'big hitters' in it? He appoints them after all!

That’s the Observer, not the Guardian. They’re the completely deluded ones. The Guardian are only 95% deluded.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

https://twitter.com/MattNixson/status/1391035747617095682?s=19

Sun journalist posting about death of a colleague, read the replies for a surprise.

He killed his wife


https://twitter.com/MattNixson/status/1391433728497496071?s=19

Eh, to be fair literal murder is a lesser crime than working for the Sun.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


namesake posted:

Rumours of Lansman being willing to back Rayner for a leadership bid.

Utterly awful idea.

Lansman really hasn't got much influence any more.

That said, the rules between an open leadership contest (i.e. if Keith resigns) and a leadership challenge are different. Basically the former requires 20 nominations from MPs and the latter needs 40. It's not super likely a left candidate would be able to get 40 votes, and if Starmer doesn't quit (which is likely), it may be that the only option would be to unite behind a single candidate. Tbh Rayner is very far from ideal, but would be a significant improvement. The tweets she's been making just this morning show she's clearly angling for a challenge, and would probably have a decent chance of winning.

If Rayner did challenge, that would mean she would be vacating the deputy leader position, so there would be a 20 nomination requirement to replace her - we should definitely be able to get a left nominee for that.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


lol Keir publicly ate fish and chips in the Hartleypool campaign in order to connect with the working man, even though he's a lifelong vegetarian.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


A bit of extra context:

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1392056602157535240

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/PanopticonGaze/status/1392082710722613254

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


As a concept, an RLB/Rayner ticket was a good idea - RLB from the left, Rayner as a sop to the right, but sympathetic and not a wrecker. It was a good plan for unity.

Unfortunately, it was also a plan made from an assumption of strength. It was quickly clear that RLB was on the back foot, and so that kind of politicking wasn't going to work.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


forkboy84 posted:

Rayner was never going to work as a sop to the right because she was firmly of the so-called "soft left". Who the Labour right barely tolerate as a necessity.

Well, the relative right, if you prefer.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Burnham is a mayor and not an MP so can't be leader (well, I think that technically he can but it's extremely unlikely the PLP would go for it). And he literally just won an election less than a week ago so it would look really bad if he quit and got himself installed in a safe seat or something. His leadership ambitions are very real, but more long term. Maybe if Keith is still leader at the next election (questionable) and then he loses (likely) he'll try it then.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


jabby posted:

I thought it was a higher bar to LAUNCH a challenge (40 MPs roughly I think) but once a challenge is launched it behaves like a standard leadership election where the requirement to get on the ballot is lower (about 20 MPs?). That prevents a small faction from triggering an election but still means the election is open to a broad range of candidates.

I think if it's a challenge all candidates need 40 nominations.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


The DPRK posted:

Friend of mine reckons Boris is trying to get rid of the FTPA - any truth to this?

Sounds like your mate has the secret inside knowledge of looking at the news because scrapping the FTPA was in the Queen's Speech.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Bobby Deluxe posted:

Momentum currently seem pretty good but I've heard people talk about problems with their regional offices. A large number of unions also seem to have issues with the people at the top being more bothered with trying to salvage their relationship with Labour than dealing with worker issues.

Those problems must be pretty massive considering we don’t have regional offices. Maybe you’re thinking of our regional groups? Those are member-led groups that meet up to organise, educate and socialise. Many of them are very good, a bunch are basically defunct, and yeah, some descend into internal drama, because hey, it’s left-wing politics. We’re actually in the middle of a big programme to revitalise them right now.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


The Tories may be in a commanding position right now, but they are facing total electoral oblivion in the future. They have inexorably tied themselves to a generation that is dying. Eventually it will be impossible for them to form a majority.

They are fully aware of this (well, at least some of them are). That's why the Queen's speech included Voter ID and this "free speech on campus" poo poo. It's not about the culture war (well, not just about that), it's an attempt to hold onto longer-term power. The free speech stuff is a pretty pathetic attempt to reverse their fortunes among the young. I doubt the speakers at the Oxford Union really effects generational opinion, but it's an attempt anyway.

Voter ID is a bit more straightforward. It's the start of an attempt to end democracy. The Tories always lag behind the US Republicans - ten years ago I would have said "the Tories are loving monsters, but at least they're not as bad as the Republicans, I guess". Now they are just as bad as Republicans, pre-Trump ones at least. The Republican party is now an undeniably fascist organisation that is currently rallying around retroactive support for installing Trump as a dictator. They will deny any election they lose is legitimate, and if they ever gain widespread power again (at least in this incarnation) they will make fair elections impossible. This is the trajectory the Tories are on. Voter ID is just the first step, like it was for the Republicans. This is the only way for Tories to hold power in the future, and they have no morals, so they will at least try.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Aidan_702 posted:

ok but we've been saying this for 15 years

It'll take another 10 years or so as well.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


goddamnedtwisto posted:

As the boomers die off their Gen X kids are inheriting their houses and are definitely replacing them in the political landscape, except now they're also all for inherited wealth and influence.

Gen Xers were always poo poo, they're the centrist demographic. Millennials will, on average, get richer as they get older, due to career progression and inheritance. But they're starting from a dramatically lower point, and frankly that inheritance is going to be squat for most, as fortunes are eaten up by elder care costs and then split among siblings.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


goddamnedtwisto posted:

It is a bit strange that people are pulling out the demographics are destiny argument in reaction to the Tories making moves that skew the (voting) demographic even more acutely in their favour.

The argument is that millennials are always going to be significantly poorer than their parents, and that the Tories will try and end democracy to counter this. It's not a good destiny, really.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


jaete posted:

Sorry wait, what?

I don't know how I could have put it clearer.

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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


jaete posted:

Hm, you mean the GOP are trying to whitewash their previous non-opposition to Trump doing the whole Capitol invasion bullshit and all of that?

I was under the impression that by now Trump has been forgotten and nobody talks about him, including Republicans. Could be completely wrong though, I haven't really followed it

You have definitely not followed it.

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