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mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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babeuf was pretty based, id suck his dick and save him from reaction

mcclay
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I could fix him

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

in real life the people you gotta be wary of are American Maoists

eh, the Red Guard types are dying out. most of the mainstream Maoist orgs nowadays actually do the Mass Line and work in poor communities to help the people there. they just don’t aggressively push their internet brand so extremely online people don’t hear about them

mcclay
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Not saying you don't know this, but Maoists in North America don't take their cues directly from MLM. They align more with the Shining Path.

again this was true 5 years ago but most major orgs look down on Gonzaloists

mcclay
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

it's not my scene, so what are the "mainstream maoist orgs" in the US? Literally the only ones I've dealt with IRL are red guard

the Revolutionary Intercommunal Black Panther Party and ( I may be getting this name wrong I usually just deal with the acronym) Maoist-Communist Party. the organizing committee of which helps coordinate lots of For The People groups across the country. I have lots of friends in various FTPs and they do a fuckload of good work

mcclay
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e-dt posted:

I think that the MCP-OC actually dissolved because, as I understand it, they thought it was premature to try to organise a national party before the FTP chapters did a lot of local mass work.

https://peoples-voice.org/2021/01/02/public-resolutions-from-the-second-conference-of-the-maoist-communist-party-organizing-committee/

they might have. most of my info on national orgs is second or thirdhand through comrades.

anyways help out or join ur local FTP if you got one, or get some friends together and make one if ya don’t

mcclay
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what the gently caress are the actual tenets of xi jinping thought?

is it just mostly excuses for social-imperialism or does it have something substantive in it

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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AnimeIsTrash posted:

Weren't there heavy sanctions placed on Vietnam after the war?

The other communist country in Asia is Nepal, almost nothing is published about them.

My friend lived there for most of his young adult years and has nothing but good things to say about the Maoist government in Nepal. As he describes it under the liberals they had four hours of eletricity a day, then the Maoists came back in, stopped selling power to western corporations and everyone got power 24 hours a day lmao.

Also India funded and directed an attempted coup in the direct aftermath of the earthquake in an attempt to set up a fascist ethnostate.

Death to Modhi and his entire fascist goverment

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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make the stalinst professor a C-Spam mod

or admin

or site owner

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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Raskolnikov38 posted:

please for the love of my sanity stop listening to history podcasts by lay morons and pick something from this list that says it’s made by actual academics

https://networks.h-net.org/node/84048/pages/102491/academic-podcast-roundup

e: oh ffs Duncan doesn’t even have a goddamn BA in history aaaaaaaaaa

i have a BA in history i will make a podcaste

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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one day

mcclay
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The Voice of Labor posted:

how revolutionary, on a scale of 1-10, would you say a trail mix consisting of rock salt, dried garbanzo beans, and khat leaves is?

id rather you didn't

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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MLSM posted:

On Practice
On Contradiction
On Handling Contradictions Among the People
Talks at the Yan'an Forum on Literature
Quotations from Mao Zedong (Little Red Book)
hth

honestly Mao kinda sucks rear end for me to read. I've given up on booth On Contradiction and on Practice. I found that ARAK, the primer on theory and practice for the Communist Party of the Philipines did way more to help me understand Mao than either of them did. ARAK can be found online by googling ARAK pdf and then searching for the foreign languages press link.

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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I've also heard that Malcom X's autobio and Revolutionary Suicide are both really, really good for more contemporary Maoist stuff, but I haven't read them yet

mcclay
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Gotcha. My friend talked way more about Rev. Suicide but mentioned that malcolm's autobio was a good companion piece/ to read it before Newton's stuff

mcclay
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king

mcclay
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fart simpson posted:

i love communism

same

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

i 100% support the taliban in their struggle against american imperialism

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

lots of leftist debates could be avoided if everyone would just stop being babies, get over themselves, and read Stalin

Aight, where would you suggest someone start? I'm fairly skeptical of Stalin but I'm also fairly skeptical on the lib and anarchist narrative about him, so I'm open to reading both his works and works on Stalinist Russia

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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gradenko_2000 posted:

Losurdo's Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend is your first stop to purge yourself of propaganda

Then Grover Furr's Blood Lies: The Evidence that Every Accusation Against Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union in Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands Is False

Then you move on to Foundations of Leninism, then Historical and Dialectical Materialism, then Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR

Thank you!

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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Finished Black Legend. Overall an interesting read. I think that the translation did some wacky things, because it will randomly go from being incredibly easy to read to a mess of academese and philosophical terms. Losurdo gives a lot more leeway to elements of the Great Terror, notably the idea that there was ever fear of a real fifth column in the USSR, but overall I enjoyed it. I have become a true centrist on Stalin: He was a smart and capable man who made some good choices and some bad ones; all of which were brought on by examination of the material circumstances at hand. the troof is in the middle.

One thing I did notice while reading: throughout my research into Stalin it looks like the man was deeply invested in the national question and preserving the culture of Soviet minorities, which makes sense considering his ethnic background. However there is a lot of conflicting information on how minorities were treated in the Soviet Union. For every one story of the USSR fiercely protecting a minority language you get two of it cracking down on the languages and rights of minorities. As tempting as it is to say that those latter stories are all CIA propaganda, there has to be some truth to it. This crackdown tends to be foisted upon Stalin, but I'd be interested in knowing if it started under him or was a latter policy, if it was a policy at all.

mcclay
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John Charity Spring posted:

I really feel like getting back into Reading Some Theory since I basically haven't read anything new in the last 3 years. I went on a spree of reading Marx, Lenin, Losurdo, and others back then but I still only scratched the surface. And since then I've been too depressed and unmotivated to read fiction let alone Marxist theory and history

Anyone know if Losurdo's Stalin book can be found online in English? That seems like it would be an easy enough read to get started on again. Or if other entertaining and useful books spring to mind, feel free to suggest

I just read it online in English so it very much is available. I just put in the title and maybe pdf and it popped up

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

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Marxism-Leninism by itself is a dying ideology, the real strength of the proletariat, esp in the third world, is behind marxism-leninism-maoism. embrace the line struggle comrades, it will give ur organizing a shot in the arm.



also i may just be drunk but also debating becoming a stalinist due to both losurdo and how good Tovarisch Stalin sounds

mcclay
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bristol cool chart posted:

you're a loving idiot. anyway the basic facts of history should make you a stalinist.

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Jul 8, 2013

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Ferrinus posted:

"Had Mao died in 1956, his achievements would have been immortal. Had he died in 1966, he would still have been a great man but flawed. But he died in 1976."

Also incorrect. The good Chairman was always based

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