lumpentroll posted:

lmao

fart simpson posted:

does anyone have the old op’s reading list still? that was a good list and i was slowly working through some of it

ArfJason posted:

exmarx posted:

it's been embarrassing watching you try to force your way into this thread, then kill the previous version when it didn't work. you've been told repeatedly that no one wants you here – there are other people who can moderate this thread, you don't need to read it.

all the bad word posting shows is that you don't have any kind of authority, no matter how many probations you give out. it's entirely a reaction to your consistently bad decisions. you hosed up really bad stepping on the xinjiang discussion, made more competent mods clean up your mess, then went straight back to antagonising.

it's clear that you aren't capable of interacting with the community without using your buttons, and seem intent on making yourself the centre of attention. please go away.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Glenn thread basking in the glow of managing to still be better

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

Rent free

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

Ferrinus posted:

what's nonsensical about it? this is actually something that comes up a lot in discussion of marxism and the state generally, the idea that you can separate the state apparatus from the power that drives that apparatus and therefore that an entire mass of people can somehow be tricked or intimidated into compliance with a tiny ruling elite rather than something more straightforward and material going on. it's the kind of thinking that gets you "i support the cuban people, not their government" or the idea that If Only They Knew, the american populace would rise up against the white supremacist police state they live in. in reality the nazi, american, and soviet leaders all ruled with a consent of at least a plurality of the governed, rather than being dominated by a scheming bureaucracy or whatever

this is to say that centrist committee from a couple pages ago is correct: the general population of the forums should and does have a say in how it's run. the dictatorial power of the mods and admins is flashy and memorable but ultimately helpless in the face of people just deciding not to post here at all or to derail threads in protest. what this means, though, is that the policy of the mod team actually does come from the forums - calling someone the r-word is probatable now while it wasn't five years ago because there's been a sea change in how membership views it that has filtered up into the volunteer mod team, not because the mods and only the mods (not the iks!!) are being corrupted by the one ring. what appears to be purely personal conflict between one guy and some other guys who don't like him is actually a broader culture clash which history has happened to randomly assign some names and faces to

a Loving Dog posted:

i like when someone makes an extremely stupid post sucking off the mods in that thread i can reliably click their post history to see D&D. they love that poo poo they jerk off to authority.

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/sumayaawad/status/1394095644814499840?s=20

Larry Parrish posted:

Have you guys noticed that every mod posts on the same obnoxious nerd tone of voice. I remember Video Games not posting like that until they got tapped to mod Games and suddenly always used their shift key and also never posted in imp zone again. So the only question is, do they only make sex criminals mods or is that tendency downloaded in with the whiny loser grammar package.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjH1wCx6Zos

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MeatwadIsGod posted:

Just read it, even a slow-reading dumbass like me managed all three volumes in a short period of time. Harvey is a useful supplement chapter-by-chapter but he's not a substitute for just reading it because Harvey isn't the Marx Pope or whatever

Celot posted:

It’s no good on the whole. He says a lot of stuff that we agree with because we are leftists and it’s our intuition that owners don’t produce poo poo and communism would be good. But these are not scientific or falsifiable things.

The framework is also a bad way of viewing the world. If you take as a given that everything is class struggle / material conditions, you get absurd bullshit.

Like take ISIS for example. If Marx’s framework were valid, we would expect ISIS to be secular communists. But they’re not just motivated by class struggle, they actually are insane religious nuts.

The Marxist lens either results in absurdities or is so vague that it can explain anything and its negation.

pushpins posted:

How come marxism didn't predict the Bernie campaign eating poo poo

Celot posted:

If they weren’t a bunch of lunatics, they wouldn’t be Muslim fundamentalists. This is not a material condition, it is an internal mental state.

Celot posted:

Muslim fundamentalists are of sound mind, or what?

Celot posted:

There were. Muslim fundamentalists aren’t the only lunatics.

Homeless Friend posted:

lumpentroll posted:

so are we all converting to islam now or what

brugroffil posted:

I'm sorry but clearly they were just insane. No further analysis is needed or even possible.






Real good and terrifying book though

fart simpson posted:

aren’t you just off a probe for this euphemism garbage. cspam is not the forum to call people unintelligent.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

What are some good books/articles about Islamic socialism/communism?

Trash Ops posted:

foreign languages press has some good poo poo as pdfs or a few bucks for the print

Strategy for the Liberation of Palestine – PFLP https://foreignlanguages.press/colorful-classics/strategy-for-the-liberation-of-palestine-pflp/

Fedai Guerillas Speak on Armed Struggle in Iran https://foreignlanguages.press/colorful-classics/fedai-guerillas-speak-on-armed-struggle-in-iran/

dead gay comedy forums posted:

hello beautiful people

after five harrowing weeks against quasi-homelessness, hunger, unemployment and plague, thanks to friends and comrades, I got pulled through

still processing this road of damascus moment but had my life turned around by quite a dramatic hands-on practice of shared burdens. it is one thing to know that you have a support network outside your family, through friends, acquaintances, organizations you are a member of; another is to come to them because catastrophe happened and have your rear end stay above water because of that

while I had some bad times before, something like that in a pandemic was an entirely another level of horrible. I have a roof and a bed and far better employed than before because I had means of social support to endure the storm

what does that have to do with marxism? it is one thing to know and observe the threat of the terror we all are under; another is to fall prey to it. theory filled me with white-hot fury because, as you all know, capital can't but attack things that can be socially provided for the means of a dignified living, to induce greater and greater still levels of despair to break the back of everyone so that a little more can be harvested from their labor. It just so happens that, for me, having that awareness again brought that white hot fury, which kept my head high and put me to press on, to not surrender to the terror

so, any actual rich gently caress who thinks a mildly left-wing policy being enacted to help people around entails in "stalinism", lol they deserve it

p.s. also big thanks for the goonbucks people, you all are lovely

turd in my singlet posted:

art comin in 30 pages late with a "hard R" joke

ArfJason posted:

Atrocious Joe posted:

the real r word is revisionism

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

https://twitter.com/NotPotBol/status/1396900256789319680