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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Brain Candy posted:

so i read stalin dunking on anarchists, and it was great. the only problem i'd have with it is all the talk of the imminent victory of the proletarians: it's proletarian revolution or mutual ruin of the contending classes and it seems like we're on path b. what can we do today in our current context? i see people organizing unions, okay, cool, is that viable in the timeframe we have? that seems too slow, very much so given nuclear annhilation and global warming going hand in hand

i feel like i'm building a very sophisticated model of how we're all going to die, instead what is to be done?

find some org that does work you respect and has politics you can vibe with, look for one of the people doing a bunch of poo poo, and ask them if there’s any boring stuff they do that you can take off their plate

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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Brandon Proust posted:

it got too old

hmm maybe I’ll check back on page 20 and see if flavass has lost interest by then

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
flavass did mod training with the idf

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Flavius Aetass posted:

I mean, I learned a lot from the previous thread too, which is why it was so annoying to see people making GBS threads it up constantly calling people retards and pedophiles. i'm the guy who was probating people for doing that, but i can see how you're confused, i guess

pedo isn’t a slur dumbass

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Flavius Aetass posted:

i didn't say it was

you should re-read on contradiction and consider whether you really need to make an antagonistic contradiction out of this

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Ferrinus posted:

i've got a hypothetical for you

when an ideas guy finds the marxism thread

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Ferrinus posted:

same question for you: should the mods probate people for using this particular slur, in c-spam. yes or no

peak goon

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Flying-PCP posted:

This is obfuscating the fact that if a different mod replaced Flavinus, and that mod did anything at all resembling their job as defined by the admins, you'd just end up hating them just as much.

i like how the idea that this thread or the forum as whole should have a say in its governance doesn’t seem to occur to you as a possibility

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Dreddout posted:

I just want the theory thread to go back to how it used to be tbh.

hey me too but that period has passed. israel is making it illegal to say bad things about israel. all this started because the mods were naive and bought the state department line on genocide. theory is meant to be used and capitalism will destroy the internet just like it will destroy everything else on this planet until it’s stopped. welcome to the biden internet

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

apropos to nothing posted:

lol this is it for me. idgaf about r word, from the start only complained cause of the arbitrary enforcement of rules which 100% were always meted out against posting enemies and ignored by others, applied to the whole "mods are pedophiles" thing too and basically everything in the history of the website. its totally absurd that words like "oval office" are banned in the joke politics forum on a website where 9/11 set to yakety sax was its most significant contribution to the world. i shant post in cspam again because the mods are idiots who punish people for saying oval office and it may be revealed at a later date that some of them have committed crimes of a sexual nature. i shall stick to the pink forum and laugh at you all assuming that i am not banned for this post given the ruling that it is illegal to laugh at the mods now. please organize people around you and at your workplace and dont post online all day about "leftist" politics because it will rot your brain and you will never change anything or organize anyone.

rip to one of the only good paragraph posters. but at least cspam is safe from the c-word, which apparently also an r-word.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Centrist Committee posted:

you should re-read on contradiction and consider whether you really need to make an antagonistic contradiction out of this

btw flavius I’m not going to post the dm you sent me about this and the p-word because I’m not a complete dick, but I do think you’re way too close to this and it’s only going to keep escalating until a bunch of people get banned or you permanently etch your name in the pantheon of mod meltdowns, namaste and god bless

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Southpaugh posted:

we also only just got an aussie thread - the timing is devastating.

you cunts should have been born in the stronger imperialist state and its ableist if you try to assert language sovereignty

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
I just skipped a whole lot of posts 😎

I don’t care if Marxism is a sandwich or not, what’s your analysis of the current moment and what is your theory of change

will decide on whether to continue reading posts based on that

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
the mods are pig fuckers

(pretty sure this isn’t against the rules, but they are also little tiny babies who whine and cry and poo poo themselves frequently, so who knows)

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
nothing can be used to prove truths about the fundaments or whatever, just google “crisis in <field name here>” for a million examples

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
was popper the dude max planck took to the woodshed over scientific positivism or was that someone else?

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Dreylad posted:

it's a very special wall

lol

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
I need a deng reading list

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

nice ty

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

mila kunis posted:

deng was 70% good, 30% sino vietnamese war

im a Boolean Marxist, all good or all bad baby

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

The Voice of Labor posted:

oh how the gently caress did I not know about this

and yes, it is

yes pirate every book

epub is best because the content will render according to your screen size, making it easier to read

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Ferrinus posted:

foreswears a mud pie unbeknownst to you

why do u talk like this

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
lol there’s been another moderator involved incident on the forums and our very special blue stars are out for retribution, everyone stay safe during these dangerous times

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
getting word that some threads have already declared an unlawful assembly and the m*ds are coming out swinging. be safe posting tonight, don’t post alone, stay hydrated, etc

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
can’t have a cultural revolution without an economic revolution

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Stairmaster posted:

Imagine being autistic in the sixties

imagine flavius furiously hate reading this thread right now

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
if doing drugs is revolutionary then the sacklers are comrades

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

splifyphus posted:

nice username/post combo.

but seriously tho psychedelics as a political supplement has been tried - by the cia, and their acid supply helped destroy the solidarity and momentum of the '68 movement. psychedelics do not produce politically effective or active subjects or even necessarily somehow more 'empathic' people, they produce hippies. and charles manson.

they also produced steve jobs

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
correct

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

The Voice of Labor posted:

yes, this thing would have been totally bad even if the cia didn't corrupt it and gently caress it over and neuter it just like the american left and the black power movement. why is psilocybin being researched for its therapeutic value? why were lsd and mdma researched for the same thing before being demonized? why did so many indigenous south american cultures figure out so many different ways of doing dmt? why is peyote a legally recognized sacrament?

ur ignoring the social relations that make native medicines so valuable. sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you live in a capitalist dystopia and you can’t trip your way to revolution.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Lasting Damage posted:

Besides the incredibly questionable idea of publicly discussing how to counter US Army combat doctrine on twitter for your hypothetical revolution, seems like putting the cart before the horse to focus on this before even building some kind of disciplined movement that could be moved to use force against the state.

lol

yeah love to enter my revolutionary theory into the state sanctioned form for sentiment analysis and metadata collection

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

splifyphus posted:

ya basically it's that the mass of profit (the ratio of production cost to market price) of your detergent isn't the rate of profit of the industry. the mass of profit as be quite high even while the rate of profit is totally stagnant. in fact, i think the mass of profit is so high likely because the rate of profit is so low.

is this a breakdown in the M-C phase or the C-M phase, or is that the wrong way to think about it?

it’s cool to think of capital as a stagnant, accumulating mass and profit as energetic capital in motion

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

namesake posted:

if you've already won your revolution

lol

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

What sort of goalposts and markers should we look for?

the us military and intelligence budget

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

John Charity Spring posted:

nice av btw, i thought raskolnikov was the only one being given those

some racists were trying to set up shop in the doomsday econ thread

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

R. Mute posted:

I haven't read the second article, but the first one is laughably bad. it's just so utterly unwilling to delve beyond the surface, digging just deep enough to make the argument that china is clearly socialist but no further.

excellent contribution

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

The Voice of Labor posted:

I don't think that's a distinction, let alone a salient one. epstein got got in the middle of the night, should we start referring to socialism with american tendencies?

epstine wasn’t a billionaire dummy

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what government exists in a state of grace other than Vatican City

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRwdGzS1m0

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

The Voice of Labor posted:

yup just your average joe prol who owns a sex island

mila kunis posted:

you're a moron

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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

The Voice of Labor posted:

no, it's that the party needs to keep up appearances of the markets being regulated to maintain faith in the party. the emperor can't take all his clothes off at once. this makes ma a chauvin figure, someone who can be sacrificed so that it can be said that the system works

chauvin isn't a billionaire, dummy

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