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Serious deja vu going on right now
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# ¿ May 28, 2021 18:56 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 19:19 |
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Using my old OP that I put a lot of effort into in the halcyon days of 2019 reminds me of the before times when there was a politics other than Covid. e: also a good reminder of how wrong I was about the Bloc!!
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# ¿ May 28, 2021 19:04 |
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One of the most humiliating careers in Canadian political history.
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# ¿ May 28, 2021 19:32 |
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mila kunis posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/tk-emlups-te-secw%C3%A9pemc-215-children-former-kamloops-indian-residential-school-1.6043778 Jesus Christ this is grim. This school was in operation under the Catholic Church's control until 1969 and the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was only aware of 50 deaths there, partly because the Catholic Church refuses to release the relevant records.
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# ¿ May 28, 2021 19:49 |
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mediaphage posted:he should really be in prison. Yeah, he committed fraud and child abuse, I don't understand how charges were never filed.
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# ¿ May 29, 2021 19:31 |
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Fidelitious posted:I read it as making fun of our government's pathetic attempt at truth and reconciliation, rather than the concept itself. As others have noted, the TRC asked the government for $1.5m back in 2009 to do the exact sort of research that has now uncovered these additional murdered children (ground-penetrating radar looking for unmarked graves surrounding residential schools), and the government said no. To me there's maybe no better encapsulation of how limited the TRC process was than that.
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# ¿ May 31, 2021 14:18 |
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Entropic posted:The fact of the bodies isn't or shouldn't be particularly surprising, we know what was going on. But there's a combination of ugly things going on the Canadian pysche when it comes to residential schools: I think this is broadly accurate. White Canadians think of residential schools as strict boarding schools where children occasionally died. You don't have to look very far for this, that's the crux of what Sassafrass said in a particularly callous way a few pages ago. If white Canadians acknowledge it as genocide at all, they acknowledge it as cultural genocide that tried to eradicate indigenous culture, not as physical genocide that murdered countless children. This kind of news, the physical remains of dead children in numbers people previously didn't realize, is the only kind of thing that breaks through that cozy feeling of "well we did something bad but it wasn't that bad, really". I did some back-of-the-napkin math the other day and figured that if we extrapolated from the 4x difference between the number of bodies identified in these unmarked graves (over 200) and the official count of deaths at this one residential school (around 50) to the current estimates for deaths at residential schools, the extrapolated estimate might land somewhere around 15,000 deaths overall, for a residential school system that housed 150,000 children over the course of its existence, which would mean 1 in 10 children who went to residential schools died there. People knew all along that this was happening and didn't care, because of a deeply-ingrained racist, white supremacist ideology that remains very strong in much of the Canadian population. vyelkin fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 31, 2021 |
# ¿ May 31, 2021 20:27 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:I could do without the crocodile tears from politicians and public health officers. What good is fake grief and an affected tremble in your voice when tomorrow you'll go back to business as usual. Exactly. Remember that just last year the RCMP were taking the side of white fisherman burning down Mi'kmaq fishing buildings, among countless other ongoing crimes. If politicians really want to do something about it, they could. Vintersorg posted:None of this stuff was ever taught. Here is a painting that I like, by the Akwesasne Mohawk artist David Kanietakeron Fadden. It's called "Kill the Indian, save the Man."
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# ¿ May 31, 2021 23:23 |
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Vintersorg posted:I do sometimes wonder how other cities/provinces view it. Here in Winnipeg the CFL is nearly as big as the NHL in terms of passion and fan engagement. Bombers are a big loving deal. Is this maybe because for a long time Winnipeg didn't have an NHL team?
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 18:19 |
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Part of this is selection bias. Racist old people took over comments sections to the point that nobody who isn't a racist old person at heart wants to take part in them.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 14:15 |
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The CBC used to have a comments section where anonymous users without accounts could vote comments up and down. It was the best comments section on the internet, the top-rated comments tended to be thoughtful and helpful and all the racist garbage was downvoted into oblivion. Then they changed it to a system where only logged-in users could vote and there were no more downvotes, and the racist garbage floated to the top immediately. Now they just don't have comments on like half the website because they drove away all the good commenters and the only people left are the ones who call for genocide under every article.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 14:47 |
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Oh, was that disqus? The company changed that a few years back and it was bullshit. We nuked our comments sections entirely over the removal of the downvote function No, this was like 10 years ago and as far as I can tell it was a bespoke system I never saw on any other site. The one they switched to might have been Disqus, I don't remember.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 14:58 |
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Calumanjaro posted:I wonder what the rules are for closing CBC comments, I have a few guesses: A few years ago they openly announced they would no longer have comments on articles about Indigenous people, you know, because of all the hate speech. In response, the commenters started using the comments sections on other articles published on the same day as any article about Indigenous people to shittalk the articles about Indigenous people and also the CBC for censoring their free speech by not letting them put their hateful comments underneath the actual article they hated.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 15:32 |
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Freeland blasts Air Canada for paying $10M executive bonuses while receiving bailout Gee, I dunno, maybe you should have made those bailouts conditional or something???????
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2021 17:44 |
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flakeloaf posted:Patrick Brown probably came closest, yeah? He wasn't a governing leader. I think the actual closest we've got is Jean Chretien, who jumped before he got pushed but was clearly going to get pushed.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2021 21:00 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Paul Manly and Elizabeth May just put out a statement laying the blame for Atwin leaving squarely at the feet of Annamie Paul's chief staffer. So the Greens finally got a leader who was willing to pressure party members into toeing the party line instead of sticking to the usual line about not whipping votes or restricting members, and they promptly alienated the entire party over Israel/Palestine of all things. Just incredible.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2021 14:33 |
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I can't say I'm surprised that the Liberals will do anything to win a majority, and anybody who wants to be in federal politics shouldn't be surprised by that either.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 03:02 |
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Normy posted:Mumilaaq made a fiery farewell speech that is worth watching and sharing. Yeah this is good and I recommend posters in this thread watch it.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 15:55 |
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For a while the Green policy document included a weird MRA segment about restoring parental rights to divorced men who aren't allowed to see their kids, because the Greens are a small enough party that any persistent weirdo can get their pet issue into its policy documents.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 18:21 |
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The TRC estimate of 3200 deaths is starting to look obscenely optimistic.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2021 16:55 |
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infernal machines posted:My general impression from cases like Forcillo's was a general unwillingness to punish police for using their "professional judgement" in the line of duty, even when that judgement was absolutely terrible and the sole cause of the offense. Same, there seems to be an in-built assumption that "well, you know, sometimes a police officer might have to slam someone's face into the ground, and so we should give them the benefit of the doubt if they do it at the wrong time." I think this is a built-in problem with treating police as essentially state violence workers.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 14:26 |
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Canadian mining companies, not content with devastating developing countries, are now moving on to strip-mining the sea floor.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 14:48 |
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Additional reading on this Canadian mining company that's trying to greenwash ocean mining. Not even Bloomberg is buying their bullshit.quote:A Mining Startup’s Rush for Underwater Metals Comes With Deep Risks
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 14:59 |
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Reminds me of Bojo wanting a Christmas truce with the virus like it's 1914.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2021 03:47 |
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McGavin posted:No poo poo they're campus Conservatives. Can you imagine becoming a Conservative late in life? Like, you make it to your 40s with a functioning brain and then suddenly realize that you want to make life worse for everyone around you? That's some Captain Planet supervillain poo poo right there. The material conditions of life when you move to the suburbs and suddenly are forced to care very deeply about property values break a lot of brains
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2021 18:01 |
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Madkal posted:I agree with this and I can see how having stuff like a stable career and kids can lead some to....not reject certain ideals but not support them either. I've seen people who in their 20s were shouting for more housing and safe injection sites turn in NIMBYs because they bought a place or worry that the social housing place is too close to their kids school. You can be small-c conservative because you're comfortable and don't want thing to change without being capital-C Conservative. This is easier in Canada than in certain other countries because here we have the Liberal Party which is very much a small-c conservative party.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2021 22:23 |
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This is the worst Tron movie yet!!
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2021 17:38 |
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Vintersorg posted:"People are waking up!" God I hate this stupid loving right wing poo poo. They think it's the Matrix and if you say the right sequence of words to a person then it will short-circuit the Matrix code and turn them into an alt-right nutjob, only it turns out that they think the right sequence of words is TESTICLE BREATHING
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2021 17:53 |
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2021 18:24 |
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Canadian values is getting off work at a branch plant owned by an American conglomerate and picking up a tim hortons double double on your way to your kids hockey game at a local arena named after a school superintendent that was built on top of an unmarked indigenous graveyard
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2021 14:17 |
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flakeloaf posted:We're still good with craft beer chat though right Debating which craft beers the Keg should sell is a time-honoured CanPol tradition.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2022 04:39 |
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Arivia posted:Maybe you could do IK poo poo, since you’re a regular here and already a mod? (cspam but I don’t think anyone here is gonna think you’d be bad in this thread) I'm open to the idea but D&D mods might prefer we not cross the streams given the different expectations in the two forums, and if that's the case I'll happily defer to somebody more appropriate.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2022 04:55 |
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I don't think that was doomer bullshit trolling. Count Roland's post seems pretty much in line with the science table data to me: "Vaccines save lives but they are not going to stop the pandemic" seems accurate when Omicron's spread through a mostly vaccinated population is ten times what Delta's was through a mostly unvaccinated population (basing this on this science table graph in particular). It seems pretty clear that the vaccines are saving lives even versus Omicron, but also that vaccination alone will not end the pandemic because Omicron spreads even through a vaccinated population. The easy response is to say that vaccination could end the pandemic because if everyone is vaccinated than severe outcomes are minimized and we move to an endemic disease instead of a pandemic one, but that's only true for certain groups of the population. Disabled and immunocompromised people, children too young to get vaccinated, and others who cannot make use of the protection vaccines provide will be at risk forever, which means the pandemic will not end for them if our only solution is vaccination. And what we saw with Omicron could happen again: given its insane spread and case numbers higher than we've ever seen before, I would be hesitant to say that there's no chance for Omicron to mutate again into a new variant that might be more dangerous or more vaccine evasive. Even if the chance is smaller because a new variant might have to outcompete Omicron in transmissibility (though maybe not, if its evolutionary advantage was, for instance, evading immunity from previous Omicron infection), the sky-high worldwide case numbers give it so many chances to mutate that I would never say it's impossible. I don't know if there is a better solution by this point, unfortunately. Frankly I think it's too late for a zero Covid policy, which with the benefit of hindsight looks like the only sane response in the first place. Case levels are too high, vaccination no longer prevents spread, lots of people just won't comply with stringent public health measures anymore, and countries with whom Canada shares high levels of trade and travel will never do a zero Covid policy so even if we tried it would likely be impossible to maintain. By this point our best bet might be hoping that somebody develops a unicorn long-lasting pan-coronavirus vaccine that prevents both severe illness and infection, and then hope to reach herd immunity by vaccinating everyone who isn't immunocompromised with it, but even that might be out of reach given the combination of antivax sentiment and public health fatigue (anecdotally, I know people who are now triple-vaccinated and have been more or less trying to comply with public health measures, but are getting fed up with all of it and saying they don't want to keep getting booster shots every 3-6 months).
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2022 15:25 |
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In addition to being fed up with them, I feel sorry for antivaxxers because I think they have been legitimately let down by some combination of our substandard education system and probably bad parenting, but not anywhere near the extent that I feel sorry for immunocompromised people and children who would like to get vaccinated but can't. Forget about antivaxxers for a moment and think about what it is like to be an immunocompromised person who cannot get a vaccine for medical reasons and is therefore just as susceptible to serious Covid as they were in March 2020, if not more so because of the fragile state of their body. When we say "we're ending the pandemic through vaccinations and only vaccinations, everybody get your shot" in response to a variant that spreads nearly as easily among vaccinated as unvaccinated people, the message we are sending to the immunocompromised is "hope you're fine with never leaving your house again, because anyone you interact with, vaccinated or unvaccinated, might kill you without even realizing it." We can mandate vaccinations for everybody, even antivaxxers, and then accept that Omicron is going to spread forever, and declare the pandemic over, but we do so at the cost of forbidding some of the most vulnerable people in our society from ever getting to live a normal life again.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2022 19:08 |
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enki42 posted:Immunocompromised people can almost always get vaccinated, it just doesn't do all that much. They generally can't have live virus vaccines, but I don't think any of the COVID vaccines are live virus ones (certainly not anything you can get in Canada). Yeah true, I think I was mixing that up with the small populations who can't get the mRNA vaccines because they're allergic to some of the vaccine ingredients (e: and as you note above, some cancer patients). I think the point still stands though considering the ongoing risks of breakthrough infections in immunocompromised people, but you're right that I was probably thinking of a larger population that can't get vaccinated than is actually out there.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2022 19:23 |
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PT6A posted:Who cares? According to that article, this appears not to be true. quote:In 2017, public health researchers and the Yukon government agreed to test cancer warning labels on all alcohol containers in the government-owned liquor store in Whitehorse. But less than a month after the cancer labels were put on, they were taken off under pressure from the alcohol industry.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2022 19:36 |
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pokeyman posted:and our governments' indifference and lies. Let's not pretend we're doing a great job and there's any reason to trust the people running this clown show. Absolutely. According to this source, hospital beds in Canada decreased from 6.9 per 1,000 people in 1976 to 2.5 per 1,000 people in 2019. We've hollowed out our public services and then acted shocked when our public services are overwhelmed by a crisis.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2022 22:10 |
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When I think of socialists enacting centrally-planned economies, I think of Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2022 19:23 |
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eXXon posted:I do that except it still fogs up glasses if I'm wearing them, just at different rates depending on the mask and how I shape the nose bar. So I would definitely find some kind of fit testing with a variety of masks useful. I have a bunch of the Powecom KN95s (Mask Nerd gives them around 97% filtration so they're supposed to be legit) and they still fog up my glasses (it's hard to get them to fit right on my exact nose/cheek shape), but I was heartened to learn recently that that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't working. quote:My glasses fog up when I wear the N95. Does this mean that it is not working properly? Definitely gives me more peace of mind than wearing the cloth masks I wore before getting these.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2022 19:17 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 19:19 |
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Aoi posted:I've ordered both my boxes (roughly a year apart) of N95s from bonafidemasks.com. They're super reputable and extremely competent, with the head of the company personally responding to customer concerns and so forth. Located in New York state in the US, so it takes a little longer due to customs, but that's the only downside, and it's a small one. I'm located in the US at the moment but this is where I got my genuine KN95s as well, so if they ship to Canada then they're a good option.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2022 21:32 |