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WHO WAS MOST OVER
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ORANGE 57 34.34%
MIRO 32 19.28%
HANGMAN 30 18.07%
INNER CIRCLE 14 8.43%
BRITT BAKER 22 13.25%
CODY 6 3.61%
DARBY 5 3.01%
Total: 166 votes
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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Dasha sounded totally incredulous. Rosa sounded ready to beat the poo poo out of the guy.

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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MorningMoon posted:

Adding to this, the laugh is kinda gray. Personally I wanna take it as her being shocked into a chuckle from something so out of nowhere when she thought the bit they were doing was Willie doing a woman voice. The worse way to take it as Dasha finding it funny, but at least knowing that this poo poo can't fly at work even when she thought they weren't being heard.

Dasha sounded incredulous, like she was laughing just because she was stunned he was doing that. I wouldn't hold this one against her too much.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Malcolm Excellent posted:

Here is a question. If shida keeps the belt another year does she get the belt upgraded again? It's gets bigger with more precious metals and gems?

She gets a third belt. When she collects seven, she can transform into Super Shida.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Oh Snapple! posted:

it's my general understanding that this isnt anything remotely new to japanese wrestlers even it's is also obviously hosed up

Wanna hear where Naito got his eye taunt from?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Malcolm Excellent posted:

Hell yes.

Super Shida vs Mecha Miiba (a Mii of Reba)

Super Shida vs. Dr. Britt Baker D.M.D. (Doctor of Mecha Destruction)

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I mean, I doubt it's gonna ruin Shida's weekend where she has a huge match in front of a huge crowd that some nobody was racist on a hot mic.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Eat My Fuc posted:

She was literally reacting in the same shocked awkward way anyone on live TV would, this condemnation poo poo for people who do normal human poo poo is getting insane here

This from the guy who just compared racism to being a little underbooked.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Dimebags Brain posted:

Ogogo really missed a chance to get in some "remember what happened last time you pissed off a boxer?" zingers in.

More than anything in that segment, having Ogogo do and say nothing was a weird choice.

Like, when they brought out Wight, my assumption was that it was so Ogogo could knock his rear end out.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Shida should be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Pylons posted:

He's the commentator but they could absolutely do the "commentator jumps up from the desk and gets in the rumble" spot.

That's such a corny, WWE thing that I hope they don't do it, but I wouldn't cry about Wight being the giant for Christian to slay en route to winning and I wouldn't even terribly mind him winning and getting a shot at Omega. It'd be a fun match and do a decent number.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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What you guys are describing usually culminates in a ref getting pulled out of the ring rather than a kickout, which I hope does not happen because NJPW has made me soooooo sick of that spot.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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The Stroker Ace posted:

HR is just college RA’s for adults. I swear they’re the same people.


No offense.

None taken, I went to community college.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I feel like Ibushi wanted to respond to Omega saying Ospreay got hurt because he tried to be Omega, but didn't know where it was on Omega's twitter, so he just grabbed the first tweet he could and responded to it.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I don't think I have anything fewer than three stars and I had like four 4+ matches on that PPV, but I have to bitch about a couple things.

- I went into the three-way with just one hope. I just had one request. I just wanted them to do one thing for me. And that was DON'T do the Dick Togo spot. And they loving did the Dick Togo spot. It almost ruined the match for me. Finish was cool though. I'd like to see Omega do singles with both of these guys now.
- They gotta do something about these battle royales. The finishing stretches are always great (because the finishing stretches are just Jungle Boy going nuts) and I really dig Lio Rush if he is in fact All Elite, but the middle portions of these matches are R O U G H to get through and people always dunk on the Joker because people expect every mystery person to be one of Punk/Lesnar/Bryan/Samoa Joe and that's not fair to the promotion but it's also not fair to the talent coming in in these spots that everybody sees them as disappointing for not being one of those guys. The psychology of "OH WOW IT'S LIO RUSH HE'S IN AEW WOW!" going to "ah he has been eliminated" like two minutes later isn't great, either.

But yeah I really enjoyed that PPV. Jungle Boy vs. Omega should kick rear end.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Lid posted:

I fully predict the collapse will begin when Kenny drops the AAA belt to Andrade and then he starts losing all the belts back until he just has the AEW one left... and he becomes insane trying to hold on to his last trinket.

In reverse. Kenny ain't losing anything to anyone until he drops the AEW belt.

I mean I guess he could lose the AAA belt to Andrade via DQ or countout.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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So, here's a thought.

I thought that the title shot in the casino battle royale would be for Fyter Fest or maybe the big Miami show in July. But it's in two weeks, so it'll be in Daly's Place.

Y'think there's any chance the original winner was supposed to be Christian and they called an audible?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Lid posted:

an undercurrent theme of Omega winning is the sensation of he can't get it done himself, he's the best wrestler in the world and a massive cheat. His aura will not get damaged losing his belts and going progressively more insane.

I mean, sure, but, just from a business perspective, Tony Khan isn't letting his champion take any Ls in another company. He's just not.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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The Cameo posted:

The Dick Togo spot is him climbing on the apron and choking people with some tubing

He’s actually describing the Gedo/Jay White spot of “pull ref out of the ring when his charge is totally going to lose”

See the thing is Gedo does it like once every six months and Dick Togo does it like four times a week.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Drakkel posted:

A stellar show on almost every level, but I have one problem: the story of Britt Baker winning the title.

They created a scenario where literally everyone was hoping and cheering for the babyface to lose, and that everyone should want the bad guy to win because "She's earned it!" which is just....a really weird story to tell in a wrestling show? It's kinda lowkey insulting to Shida that they've basically made her losing the title a foregone conclusion for like a year and did absolutely nothing to make anybody root for her. Thus, the hero's journey ends with a miserable failure while the first full crowd at a wrestling show in nearly 2 years celebrates the villain who cheated to beat her and she'll probably just fade away to Dark/Elevation land cause Baker's the only woman in the company that matters (until Brandi comes back of course)

This part is absolutely right. It really started up after the Lights Out match, it's loving weird the way they push Britt. Like, to a point, yea ok is right, you should just let people react how they want to react, but the big push AEW made out of that match was how awesome Britt Baker was and how much rear end she kicked, except, she lost.

And they pretty much completely stopped acknowledging Thunder Rosa's existence on TV after that match, which, she won. It's like they put Rosa over and then after the match, decided to just pretend that Britt had won. And the way they did this 100% undercut Shida as a babyface champion.

It's weird, man.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Pinwiz11 posted:

Hey.









CHAIR LAIR

Throne Zone

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Ganso Bomb posted:

I do wish they had done more for Shida in her loss.

DO YA?!

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Also I dunno if I buy that Rosa vanished off the face of the Earth because of Corgan. If only because Rosa cut a very passionate promo right after the show and it never made it to TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mBJbPG_5ik&t=65s

Instead of having her say this on TV, the fallout of the match the next week was 100% centered on Britt. I'm sorry, I think that's really weird and I don't think Corgan is responsible for it.

MotU posted:

agree on the looking like every other guy part. its cool to see that ogogo can do other stuff than punch but he shouldnt. every move should be a set up for a punch. rip cord punches, pop up punches, diving punches, shooting star punch etc etc etc

Luckily, that second one is his finisher, so he's gonna be doing that a lot.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Shard posted:

Like maybe I could see what yall were saying...if Britt wasn't super over, has shown growth from the beginning of AEW to now, didn't feel like the natural next champion and hadn't been in some of the best matches in AEW.

I'm not saying any of that isn't true (maybe I'm saying the last part isn't true, but I really don't feel like getting into an argument about Britt's in-ring).

I'm just saying they pushed her in a very weird way that got Rosa and Shida less over.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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StarkRavingMad posted:

thread didn't get a chance to go to poo poo this week since Dynamite wasn't on a Wednesday, so people really had to dig deep to find a reason to doom n' gloom after a great PPV to get that weekly quota in

Go ahead and find a post of me saying it was a bad match, a bad title change or a bad decision. You'll be looking for a while, motherfucker!

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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StarkRavingMad posted:

so what are you on about with all this they pushed her in a really weird way stuff

I'm on exactly what I'm loving saying. Coming out of the Lights Out match, they basically erased Thunder Rosa from the canon and pushed and presented Britt in a way that got Shida less over and made her beating Shida basically a foregone conclusion. And I find that really weird, because Britt's a heel and Shida's a babyface. I keep saying "weird" because I don't even necessarily think it's bad booking, I don't think it's bad to strongly book the person you want to make your champion and focus the division around her, I just think it's weird, given the alignments of the respective characters and the way it negatively affected the current champion. It's not some kind of dog whistle. I just think it's weird.

Like, okay. Look at it this way.

Championship match.
There's a babyface and a heel.
The heel's manager interferes.
The babyface gets nailed with a foreign object.
This is not the finish. The match continues.
The heel eventually wins, clean, with a wrestling move.

Kenny Omega and Don Callis are the biggest pieces of garbage in the world.
Britt Baker gets roses thrown at her feet.


flatluigi posted:

i feel like the implication is that they're being racist but i think that's part of my default considerations when people are being extremely cagey about accusations

That's a really loving lovely thing to say.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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sticklefifer posted:

Thunder Rosa still consistently has awesome matches and Britt was doing a long-term Dark/Elevation thing to get into the rankings, while Shida's had several title defenses and plenty of people were saying they wanted Shida to win or predicted a double-turn. Just because you say Thunder Rosa was "erased" a bunch of times doesn't make it more true. Nobody erased anybody. You just see something different, and that's fine, but you're copping an attitude about people disagreeing.

Bro, she's wrestled one two minute match on Dynamite since the Lights Out match.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I saw somebody describe Christian Cage as "motivational dad to the young faces who will immediately turn around and play dirty to kick the crap out of the Matt Hardys of the world" and it's so perfect.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Gonzo McFee posted:

I enjoyed Cody/Ogogo. I realise this makes me a double Hitler

I'm in a similar boat because I went into it not caring about how good the match was or the result or any of Cody's :911: poo poo. The only thing I wanted out of the match was to see whether or not Ogogo can go in the ring and he can so it was a resounding success to me. :lol:

Ogogo is going to be so loving huge for this company, I just, like. I can't even make myself pretend to care about the result of one match against Cody. I just can't!

JUNGLE BOY posted:

i definitely teared up when he won. i was a huge sting fan as a kid but my family was too poor to ever go to a WCW show. i stopped watching when WCW died and i started paying attention again around the time sting returned to WWE. his career ended before i knew it and i just assumed i'd never get to see sting wrestle live, and it didn't even really hit me until he came out and started hitting big moves. the crowd chanting "you still got it" really got me.

The way you guys popped for the Stinger Splash owned, btw

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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JUNGLE BOY posted:

after the explosion botch more people are buying the PPVs to see how AEW will whiff it big this time, sad

This PPV which was merely great and successful and had no embarrassing technical failures or disastrous injuries, will surely lead to people leaving in droves. AEW is practically dead already.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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NWA has a midcard belt where if you retain it seven times, you get a world title shot, also the time limit for matches is 10 minutes.

I don't necessarily think AEW should have that but I think it's kinda cute.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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History Comes Inside! posted:

Yeah but you have to imagine a lot of that is down to COVID, although it’s not like they took the first opportunity to get it off him so maybe they really would have let it ride like this the whole time.

Yeah, if at any point their plans had been for that belt to not be on Mox, they would've found a way for it to not be on Mox. The reason they didn't strip him was because he's their guy. He likely would've just been racking up defenses this entire time.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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So are Men of the Year gonna wind up enlisting the Wingmen or would their fake GQ ruin MotYs actual GQ?

Rarity posted:

Foochs, is there any way of booking Mox that would make you happy besides 'he has the World title forever and never loses'?

I mean, why are we taking "he has the world title forever and never loses" off the table?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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SamuraiFoochs posted:

Yeah that's the vibe I get too, which again makes perfect sense and is fine, I just don't know where to slot in Mox when he comes back!

John Cena Moxley US Open Challenge.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I liked the Troggs version specifically in the context of the Nagata match. I don't have a ton of use for the version they have as Moxleys theme right now but whatever, the audience can sing along. That's cool.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1399867649580879874

Britt Baker's a disaster, get the belt off of her.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Ganso Bomb posted:

Per Fightful, Lio has signed with New Japan but they're fine with him continuing to work for AEW and MLW: https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-lio-rush-signs-njpw

We've obviously had a bunch of the reverse (sign with AEW, allowed to work NJPW), but I think this is the first time we've had this specifically.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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I will begrudgingly allow a story where Adam Scherr becomes Dark Order's large friend.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Ha ha ha this is a very funny joke that I definitely understood.

MJeff fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 2, 2021

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Man, this thread is gonna be something when Britt starts actually having matches in this title reign.

Anyway,

https://twitter.com/WWEAleister/status/1400269420149227525

*deep breaths*

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

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Jungle Boy beats the Young Bucks, PnP beats Miro, Lance Archer beats Britt Baker, Thunder Rosa beats Kenny Omega.

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