Epic High Five posted:

People come and people go over years, and as such essential character will change. It's a thread that was on topic like a laser when something was going on, it just didn't slow down much when there wasn't. Very much a laboratory of postocracy where good ideas are forged in the fires of mass critique and bud off into their own threads sometimes when people get tired of talking about it

What I didn't like most of all about the moving it idea was the pitch that it would both not change anything for those who post there and they'd be welcome in other CSPAM threads, but also it would keep bad chat thread posters from polluting other threads or whatever. Both can't be true and it's a wholly unnecessary thing to do in the first place. Just let threads who feel especially aggrieved by Harton get their own Forums Resource Officer IK they can speed dial to make him stop or something

smarxist posted:

smarxist posted:

Hi mods, please ban me you bootlicking thugs!

I love CSPAM and because of that I'm doing my best to save it from the completely lovely junkyard that it sprang from before the literal child-brained owner flushes either the community here, or the entire website down the toilet

the events that occurred on the night of the stream with the "livebans" were really beyond the pale and basically killed any appetite I had to post here or spend money here, at the behest of a nazi chud peanut gallery, a man in his 40's banned some of my favorite people from their favorite place and seriously upset them, if you can countenance that poo poo, be my guest

i've been workin' hard (thank you!) to capture as many disaffected, displaced and banned posters as I can, and have literally hundreds trickling into the new hotness.

so come check us out!
https://breadnroses.club/register/

if you register with your SA account name, I can track you down and approve you (we're doing manual approvals for now) and you can come check out the new joint, which despite being a work in progress is already REALLY loving solid.

if you can't be bothered, or if all of this is "dumb online bullshit" or you don't care, then I bid you good posting friend, it was nice making content with you!

hasta siempre,
Smarxist

Slanderer posted:

i have some mod feedback re: smarxist (bolded)

Slanderer posted:

i have some mod feedback re: smarxist (bolded)

Hot Karl Marx posted:

You're literally one of the worst posters in this subforum and bring nothing to the table except posts like this.

Good soup! posted:

Office Pig posted:

if you have ever played cricket and don't hail from any of the legendary jamaican teams who played in spite of the imperial anglo then you need to take yourself a little trip to qcs and beg for a regular old ban if you don't want to face righteous permanency

Office Pig posted:

if you have ever played cricket and don't hail from any of the legendary jamaican teams who played in spite of the imperial anglo then you need to take yourself a little trip to qcs and beg for a regular old ban if you don't want to face righteous permanency

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Now the aussies dominate the sport and it

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Chat thread serves its purpose as a dump for poo poo posts/quarantine for posters who like to spam about their lives and should be left alone (and probably IK'd by a known chat poster). That thread shouldn't have much power over the rest of the subforum though and while mega threads can be bad, I think there is a trend lately with more threads being made.

More hands off moderation would be nice but also dealing with the aggro idiots who can take over threads when posting about posters should be probed more often though.

frankenfreak posted:

my cricket knowledge remains limited to that there's a wicket, that it's an innings and

DarkEuphoria posted:

I’ve seen plenty of people, who’s names I recognize from their posting in the trump/chat thread, even if they don’t post there anymore, post helpful and on topic feedback in this thread.

it’s only a few who have expressed that it is the core of cspam or something similar, and a lot of the posts aimed toward the chat thread seem to think that’s a bigger sentiment than it actually is

some plague rats posted:

Okay: you're weird. But seriously the problem is that this isn't happening, it's not getting squashed at all and the chat thread dumb fucks are never going to read the room and take the hint. Left alone they'll just do it more, as you pointed out yelling at them also makes them do it more, all that's left is mod action which hasn't been happening, hence the feedback I'm currently giving. I would like this stupid bullshit that's super annoying to anyone who doesn't have chat thread brain damage to be kept in it's own thread so I can not read it. Doesn't seem like a big ask. Before anyone tries to be like lol you're so mad or whatever: I'm at work, sitting on the toilet, my time has literally no value right now

Zurtilik posted:

To me it all just reads as weird posting enemy drama.

Athanatos posted:

All NBA threads all over SA are amazing. We have a fashion one in SAS proper, and the people in the Draft thread are pretty loving fantastic. The whole SA NBA operation is aces.

Jazerus posted:

i also think that it's a sentiment that's misunderstood as being way more all-encompassing than it really is. toward the beginning of the thread i described chat thread as the "community center" and i think that is what it was for a long time. a place that many posters who didn't otherwise post in the same threads had in common. maybe that's changed, but i'm not really trying to portray the chat thread as the "king of threads". i was trying to make clear that it's an important part of cspam that should not be moved elsewhere, but it wasn't my intention to make it out as more important than succ zone, marxism thread, number thread, games thread, etc. although i think it came across that way.

Athanatos posted:

Last few hours for this thread if anyone wants to get anything in.

Mine and Shine PMs are also open if you miss out. I also have like 3 days of unresponded to PMs, I promise to get to them all. Uhh..poo poo as I typed this I remembered I gave my email. I will go check that right now too.

I've reached out to some people for the Covid thread IK. Hoping to get that done when they get back to me.

Shine and I will figure out what we are doing about more mods and the best mods for the space using the suggestions in here.

Someone mentioned a thread for changing the forum subtitle, get at me when ya'll figure something out.

All NBA threads all over SA are amazing. We have a fashion one in SAS proper, and the people in the Draft thread are pretty loving fantastic. The whole SA NBA operation is aces.

Yinlock posted:

My only real complaints nowadays are the strange desire to have every thread properly sorted with Proper Thread Titles Formats using [Brackets] and such rather than letting things grow organically,

Tiler Kiwi posted:

oh i kind of personally like it like that since thread names change a lot and it sometimes something catches your eye when you look down the list. it helps make new threads without it stand out too.

Ardennes posted:

Not to get too much into it, I posted in D&D for a really long time before Cspam existed, and honestly it it too has its ebbs and flows over the years. Right now, I think the divide is about as stark as the LF-era but at the same time I am a bit of a romantic about provoking discussion regardless of the forum. Also, it may be low-key my fault for trying to merge the D&D Trump thread and the 2018-era version of USPOL in the first place...which may have had a bit of a domino effect.

As for c-spam modding, to be absolutely frank, I think it is just in a very awkward position at the moment and it is unclear what cspammers want or if what they want is workable. For example, I have nothing against Larry (just an example) but I might find myself in a position where I would need to probate him and I don't know if I quite trust cspammers not to come after me. Even if it was legitimate probation and I have my reputation or whatever but I rather not have a target on my back. I like cspam, but I think a lot of cspammers have rhetorically trapped themselves into a position where it is a very difficult to make it work.

(Btw I know the whole back history of why this is so, it is just what I see going on right now.)

Yinlock posted:

C-spam responds best to not being treated like absolute dogshit. Mods/Admins that actually ask for input or don't dismiss us as a howling mob generally get a way more positive response and are given way more slack than some dipshit bursting into the democ**t or glenn thread ready to LAY DOWN SOME FORUMS LAW

The Troubles generally only happen when someone gets hit with a serious punishment for no reason and then the staff doubles-down on the bad decision and circles the wagons. This has never once ended well for whatever bad mod started it, and inevitably leads to a hilariously embarrassing revelation followed by a self-ban.

Athanatos posted:

One of the top complaints about forum usability (besides dark mode) is/was "None of this poo poo makes any sense." It's why we have extended forum directory with subtitles now.

The meme is "Dead, dying forum" but, that's not super true, so new people trying to find a place to have a discussion about the topic they want are/were having issues.

I'm a moron so this may be a bad example, but 2 days ago I had to ask for the covid thread link (it's renamed to something now), so it happens. In my own forum I have [Thread Title] - (Whatever joke title), so if you need to find the AFC South thread, it's a quick look.

I think the brackets here help a fuckton if the community wants 98% joke title coverage.

Yinlock posted:

C-spam responds best to not being treated like absolute dogshit. Mods/Admins that actually ask for input or don't dismiss us as a howling mob generally get a way more positive response and are given way more slack than some dipshit bursting into the democ**t or glenn thread ready to LAY DOWN SOME FORUMS LAW

The Troubles generally only happen when someone gets hit with a serious punishment for no reason and then the staff doubles-down on the bad decision and circles the wagons. This has never once ended well for whatever bad mod started it, and inevitably leads to a hilariously embarrassing revelation followed by a self-ban.

frankenfreak posted:

Yeah, I don't disagree that it makes identifying which thread is which easier, it's just that no one is going around to give every thread some sort of descriptor right now.

Yinlock posted:

C-spam responds best to not being treated like absolute dogshit. Mods/Admins that actually ask for input or don't dismiss us as a howling mob generally get a way more positive response and are given way more slack than some dipshit bursting into the democ**t or glenn thread ready to LAY DOWN SOME FORUMS LAW

The Troubles generally only happen when someone gets hit with a serious punishment for no reason and then the staff doubles-down on the bad decision and circles the wagons. This has never once ended well for whatever bad mod started it, and inevitably leads to a hilariously embarrassing revelation followed by a self-ban.

Ardennes posted:

Basically, you just need bazillion iks and then mods could only step in if absolutely necessary

Ardennes posted:

Some of it has to be just that it is difficult to find someone to be a mod who gets along with all the threads at once. There have been various complaints that many (some say all but that seem unlikely) previous mods came from the Trump thread...but at the same time it is a very active thread and it is clear has a loyal following. If anything the feedback thread has shown everyone loves their favorite threads and think they should stay how they are...but they really don't like "that thread" over there. How do you actually like to moderate a subforum that balkanized unless you administer it like Bosnia? The system runs itself...until it doesn't.

Basically, you just need bazillion iks and then mods could only step in if absolutely necessary or otherwise they could spark a "diplomatic incident."