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| CAGE VS STARKS |
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22 | 18.33% |
| CAGE VS HARDY |
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7 | 5.83% |
| PAGE VS DARBY |
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61 | 50.83% |
| THE MAGICAL GIRL VS THE BAD GIRL |
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11 | 9.17% |
| MOX VS KARL |
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13 | 10.83% |
| SAM VS WHEELER |
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6 | 5.00% |
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MorningMoon posted:Numbers aren't loving real.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:45
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I want to see Punk vs. Kenta vs. Danielson in a stolen moves reclamation elimination match where the first to eliminate a man gets the Busaiku Knee, and the overall winner of the match gets to keep the Go 2 Sleep. Kenta would win both falls and Punk retires, Danielson starts using the Busaiku Headbutt as a finish, CTE eventually causes him to murder Kenny Omega for the AEW world title live on PPV.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:47
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Jul 21, 2021 21:48
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no one should ever be hurt. sorry that happened.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:49
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Lamuella posted:If Punk comes back to wrestling I'm sure he will be the same very good talker and largely average worker he was before. I don't need to see it but I'm sure I'll watch it if he's on a show I watch, I've just not been interested in him in a while. Clear bias as he is in my avatar but where the gently caress did this narrative of Punk being an average worker come from? Its known hes not athletic at all and not crisp but as someone capable of putting together a great natch he is one of the best ever. He had incredible matches with just about everyone and the people who used to say he couldn't because he wasn't a rudiculous athlete were the old guys who took one look at this lean tattooed guy and immediately assumed he couldn't work. It's just bizarre.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:53
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Eat My Fuc posted:I want to see Punk vs. Kenta vs. Danielson in a stolen moves reclamation elimination match where the first to eliminate a man gets the Busaiku Knee, and the overall winner of the match gets to keep the Go 2 Sleep. Kenta would win both falls and Punk retires, Danielson starts using the Busaiku Headbutt as a finish, CTE eventually causes him to murder Kenny Omega for the AEW world title live on PPV. Give this man the book Tony
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Jul 21, 2021 21:55
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Lid posted:It's just bizarre. He wrestled in the factory of misery for like a decade (8 years) op.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:57
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Quantum of Phallus posted:They had a Picture in Picture for Wheeler Yuta last week showing his Dark/Elevation wins that worked perfectly I like the idea! Like we don't need some WWE style recaps where they have to remind you of things that happened 3 minutes ago, but a little context for what happens outside Dynamite helps make the other shows feel relevant at least.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:58
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karmicknight posted:He wrestled in the factory of misery for like a decade (8 years) op. He did, and had great matches there oncluding with near over the hill Undertaker and with Brock off the top of my head. Hell Moxley was there longer and Punk had more great matches than Dean Ambrose did.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:59
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Lid posted:Clear bias as he is in my avatar but where the gently caress did this narrative of Punk being an average worker come from? Its known hes not athletic at all and not crisp but as someone capable of putting together a great natch he is one of the best ever. Thing was Good before, but Thing was widely available and liked by an audience who I hate sharing with, therefore I must downplay Thing in order to maintain my aloofness and sense of superiority. Punk was always solid, except around the injuries towards the end, and even then he was putting in a shift. He was never a natural athlete, but had that charisma that made fans in both the arena and online listen to his every word. He's not going to be Daniel Bryan levels of technical ability, but even before putting in those years in the WWE he was a great wrestler. Years and concussions likely have taken their toll, but I'd be tuning in with excitement
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Jul 21, 2021 22:01
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Lid posted:Clear bias as he is in my avatar but where the gently caress did this narrative of Punk being an average worker come from? From me not enjoying his matches very much compared to other people.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:03
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i like cm punk but "concrete rear end" is a very funny thing to say about someone as a burn
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Jul 21, 2021 22:05
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give me punk/mjf and bryan/miro also as MRT said on twitter: bryan/sting
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Jul 21, 2021 22:06
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britishbornandbread posted:Thing was Good before, but Thing was widely available and liked by an audience who I hate sharing with, therefore I must downplay Thing in order to maintain my aloofness and sense of superiority. It's wrestling post-modernism: when Punk was at his peak and beloved the time was that Cena was a bad wrestler and overpushed, and then in his twilight years when he was no longer Super Cena his entire career was re-appraised and retrospectively making GBS threads on Cena's matches is seen as passe and he was a great worker. The inverse has happened to Punk despite contemporarily and retrospectively him having better matches at the time frame and retrospectively. Lamuella posted:From me not enjoying his matches very much compared to other people. You were a minority then if you were saying at the time frame that Punk was average and having average matches. I do scratch my head at who your view of tiers is if Punk is a Ziggler or Miz level wrestler in your mind.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:06
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Who would be the best feud to have CM Punk do first? I feel like only MJF make sense in this one. He beats Jericho to tie a ribbon in that one. CM Punk comes out at All Out at some points. MJF is the perfect candidate to mock Punk about his absence from the ring and his attempt at MMA. Punk/MJF have a fight and either Punks wions to give MJF a rare loss or MJF wins via trickery. Bonus points if Colt/DO rescues punk from a Pinnacle beatdown (only if Punk & Colt make amends don't force this).
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Jul 21, 2021 22:06
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Alaois posted:i like cm punk but "concrete rear end" is a very funny thing to say about someone as a burn them tribute elbow drops months and then years after savage died sure were something else
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Jul 21, 2021 22:08
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Lid posted:You were a minority then if you were saying at the time frame that Punk was average and having average matches. I'm fine with being in a minority. At no point was I insisting that other people think the same as me. If you enjoy his matches I am delighted for you.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:08
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Waffleopolis posted:Who would be the best feud to have CM Punk do first? I feel like only MJF make sense in this one. He beats Jericho to tie a ribbon in that one. CM Punk comes out at All Out at some points. MJF is the perfect candidate to mock Punk about his absence from the ring and his attempt at MMA. Punk/MJF have a fight and either Punks wions to give MJF a rare loss or MJF wins via trickery. Bonus points if Colt/DO rescues punk from a Pinnacle beatdown (only if Punk & Colt make amends don't force this). I really think he should be the one to plant the bug in Wardlow's head that maybe this contract he has with MJF isn't worth it at all.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:08
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britishbornandbread posted:them tribute elbow drops months and then years after savage died sure were something else god they were so loving awful
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Jul 21, 2021 22:08
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I didn’t love the indie style of Punk’s ROH heyday—everyone was doing a strong style impression, punk/joe overrated etc etc—but he was a breath of fresh air in WWE with Kenta’s stolen moveset. He got to be a five moves of doom guy by the end, but you were always pumped to see him. He’ll be fine but he’s not going to *sign* sign, he’ll be PPV-only
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Jul 21, 2021 22:09
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Waffleopolis posted:Who would be the best feud to have CM Punk do first? I feel like only MJF make sense in this one. He beats Jericho to tie a ribbon in that one. CM Punk comes out at All Out at some points. MJF is the perfect candidate to mock Punk about his absence from the ring and his attempt at MMA. Punk/MJF have a fight and either Punks wions to give MJF a rare loss or MJF wins via trickery. Bonus points if Colt/DO rescues punk from a Pinnacle beatdown (only if Punk & Colt make amends don't force this). from what little I have seen of AEW, MJF has just been an 11/10 heel. Him against fan favourite Punk is easily money
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Jul 21, 2021 22:09
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I was never that excited about his matches and I can’t remember a single time he hit the GTS and it didn’t look like absolute garbage. The draw was always his promos and what story he might tell around the match itself outside of just doing sweet moves, because he didn’t really do any sweet moves.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:15
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Punk's moves never looked crisp but he was good at character work, especially as a heel. If he didn't take himself so seriously, he'd be great as the straight man in comedy matches against Orange Cassidy or the Wingmen.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:17
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just had a personal epiphany that being a massive Bret mark helps when it comes to being a massive Punk mark. Says more about me than it does about them, mind you.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:19
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Nothing Punk did looked spectacular or out of this world or something you couldn't do with a bored weekend of training, and that was fine and part of his benefit. It became more about how you can put a match together to keep the interest high, how well the chemistry works, and knowing what to do to make the match itself great. Okada has the same thing, albeit as the most athletic man alive, in that when you watch Okada matches for his moves literally none of his moveset is something you couldn't train yourself, except he's perfected every single one of them, and knows how to use the simplest thing such as when to use a dropkick for maximum effectiveness. Character work is massive in making great matches and knowing how to keep the fans interested and involved rather than being spectacular. Contrast him with Dean Ambrose whose character work was nullified at every possible end by WWE, or Rusev, and we could tell there were great wrestlers in there that were stifled. No one would argue that Rusev or Ambrose were out of this world workers, but Moxley and Miro are out of this world wrestlers.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:23
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If anything I'd like to see Punk in AEW just so people stop losing their minds every single time they run a show in Chicago, as if there's literally only one reason any wrestling company goes there.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:24
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Drakkel posted:Were they expecting like New Japan but in English? Yes. Some people reasonably expected something very NJPW-like based on the people involved and were maybe a little disappointed when it was closer to like. A mix of WCW, southern stuff, American indies with little dashings of puro in there. But I think all of those people have either adjusted to what AEW is or have just accepted it's not for them. Meanwhile, some people were just looking to get upset no matter what it was. Drakkel posted:Part of me wishes they did a quick video recap of Dark/Elevation. Not huge just like, I dunno 2 to 3 minutes of showing the finishes/big spots of each match so people remember these characters exist. The crawl's a decent idea but extremely easy to miss. I want a little more of what they did with Wheeler Yuta, like Quantum of Phallus mention. Just like, I dunno between Q2 and Q3, do "And here's Dark in 60 seconds!" where you run down important stuff to keep people apprised of the stories building on Dark and Elevation. For example, the stuff between Acclaimed and Varsity Blondes that's probably going to be blown off in an Eliminator match on Dynamite? Show a little bit of that promo on Dynamite to make people aware of it, even if you're going to build the entire feud on Dark.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:25
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Pylons posted:I really think he should be the one to plant the bug in Wardlow's head that maybe this contract he has with MJF isn't worth it at all. Unrelated to Punk-chat but I thought the Wardlow works for MJF not AEW thing was formally ended with the unveiling of the Pinnacle. I could swear MJF said or made reference to that.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:25
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britishbornandbread posted:I haven't sat down and watched a weekly wrestling show in an age. If Punk signs with Dynamite, I would watch every week. He's the reason I got back into this hell-hobby in 2011. You should give Dynamite a shot, if you liked the kinda stuff Punk did then you'll dig it 
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Jul 21, 2021 22:25
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Also if Punk comes that means Punk, Doc Gallows and Serena Deeb are in the same company at the same time.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:25
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rantmo posted:Unrelated to Punk-chat but I thought the Wardlow works for MJF not AEW thing was formally ended with the unveiling of the Pinnacle. I could swear MJF said or made reference to that. I don't think that's true but I could have forgotten about it.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:26
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Rarity posted:You should give Dynamite a shot, if you liked the kinda stuff Punk did then you'll dig it Scoopsgal my friend I know you said AEW doesn't need Punk but... what if... AJ Lee...
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Jul 21, 2021 22:29
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Realtalk: Punk was a very good worker by the standards of WWE's roster in the early 10s but since then we've had the rise of Omega, Ibushi, Andrade, Fenix, Adam Cole and a whole lot more besides. Even if he was able to perform at his best level after 7 years away he's not going to seem as good as he used to be because the overall quality of wrestling is so much better.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:30
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britishbornandbread posted:just had a personal epiphany that being a massive Bret mark helps when it comes to being a massive Punk mark. Says more about me than it does about them, mind you. As a fellow Bret/Punk mark, good point here. Punk and Danielson kept me interested in wrestling before I got into the alternatives, so it'd be very cool if one of them showed up.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:30
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https://twitter.com/TrueWillieHobbs/status/1417959036746702852
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Jul 21, 2021 22:31
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I like Punk, but I'd be lying to say I'm over the moon about him. His big top run happened while I wasn't into WWE and he left as I was getting back into it. I know he's capable of good matches. I think, much like Christian, he'd be the biggest help behind the scenes. But I can't deny he'd be a gain for AEW as far as it being a pretty huge story and guaranteed rating for the show after he showed up. No question about that. As far as pure entertainment, I'd be more gassed about Bryan. But honestly AEW feels so at capacity to me. One of Jungle Boy, Miro, Sammy, MJF, Darbz, Hangman, or some of the others who carried pandemic AEW are gonna get jilted in favor of these El Idolos or Blacks or CM Punks and I don't think that's fair.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:32
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yes i want everyone in the whole world to wrestle kenny omega because i think he can work with literally anyone on the planet and make them and himself look amazing
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Jul 21, 2021 22:33
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It's me. I'm the one poster in this forum unironically excited about a potential Punk/Christian match in AEW.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:35
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Rarity posted:Realtalk: Punk was a very good worker by the standards of WWE's roster in the early 10s but since then we've had the rise of Omega, Ibushi, Andrade, Fenix, Adam Cole and a whole lot more besides. Even if he was able to perform at his best level after 7 years away he's not going to seem as good as he used to be because the overall quality of wrestling is so much better. Oh I'm being very careful not to say Punk now would have blowaway matches, though he might have it easier than the New Style because being his style involved nothing that hard he could Ric Flair it so its ageless. But that's all hypothetical and yes comparing him to Omega or Fenix would be like "the hell is this" of insane takes. But the man has charisma for days, knows how to work a crowd something AEW puts a huuuuuuuge emphasis on, and just as an asset is very valuable. Is he the future of the company? No, but Chris Jericho in his near-50s put AEW on his back and carried it in its first year, and hell they were the two who were most often compared to the other when they were both current - fan beloved insanely talented talkers who could work great matches with just about anyone.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:37
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can't imagine how methodical cm punk would be right now. if he is up for wrestling he should go back in time and do world of sport
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