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Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

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osprey posted:

there was a UK health care worker study a while back showing surgical mask wearers were 47x more likely to become infected than FFP3 (UK version of N99) mask wearers. it would be a bit less for KN94/N95 but they're still significant upgrades from a surgical

From fifteen pages ago, but I think you misread the study. Healthcare workers with covid-positive patients were 47 times more likely to get infected at work than healthcare workers with covid-negative patients. The respirators caused a 50-100% reduction in infections in red wards (covid+), but the sample size is too small to know more precisely exactly how good they are. It does line up with the CDC slides saying N95s are 90%+ effective, and surgicals are around 80%.

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Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

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I'm missing a lot in this new thread, who is Clarissa?

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gradenko_2000 posted:

Melissa Joan Hart gained fame in the early 90s for a Nickelodeon sitcom called "Clarissa Explains It All", where she'd go through the motions of being a middle-class American teenager, but she'd also break the fourth wall by addressing the audience directly about how she feels regarding the current episode's conflict or issue.

Great explanation, thanks. Staying current on this thread is hard

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Jul 11, 2010

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Casey Finnigan posted:

I feel like people should be maybe more worried, about the hospital system collapsing

It was real fun to call 911 to have an ambulance roll up and ask "He's conscious? You have first aid training?" I said yes and they left.

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Tzen posted:

lol one of my very early on crack-pings was realizing that the CDC was full of poo poo, and just a wing of whatever political party was in power
just blew me away, never thought i'd be some dumbass "DONT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT" with regards to a credible institution like the CDC, NWS, NSF, OSHA, NHTSA, NIST, etc.
just lmao i'll never trust the CDC again
a dumb goon following a dead gay forum and several people on twitter is more ahead of the loving CDC for 16+ months now just lmaoo

Last week I got in an argument with a trust-the-CDC lib. I said that the CDC does whatever the President wants and she said "source?"

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Mr Hootington posted:

This is true if more people are infected the sooner we reach herd immunity.

Herd immunity, idiots. Can't solve this pandemic with human vaccines, that's why we need horse dewormer

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Jul 11, 2010

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Fix posted:

Today I learned that "happy hypoxia" where you feel fine as your O2 sat numbers are plummeting is a thing. Brother in law had a guy walk into his ER under his own power with his sats in the 20s.

That's like someone breathing at the peak of Mount Everest, gently caress.

I was in an MTU with 500 mL of lung capacity and felt horribly short of breath but still had 99% O2 sats, what's up with that?

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Jul 11, 2010

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Paradoxish posted:

this is insane right

my brain is so broken that I don't even know anymore but, like, this is totally insane right

Alberta is planning to do it too. It's horrific and unconscionable, yes. A series of protests got the move pushed back six weeks, but we'll have to fight back against it again.

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Jul 11, 2010

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Palladium posted:

Why are these US bioweapon labs still around anyway? The idea of weaponizing viruses against foreign boogeymen with zero domestic blowback is a stupid one even before covid happened.

If America made a rabies-ebola supervirus and dropped it on China, it would kill a few dozen Chinese citizens and then spread to Texas on a cruise ship and kill the entire continent.

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Jul 11, 2010

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gradenko_2000 posted:

the CIA planted dengue fever in Cuba and now it's endemic to Florida

I read more about this. Apparently it's still hitting Cuba much harder, which is sad. Eduardo Arocena was recently released from prison for health reasons, funny how that doesn't happen for everyone at risk of getting covid in American prisons.

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Insanite posted:

latest death panel podcast feels simpatico with this thread:

https://twitter.com/DeathPanel_/status/1428462333655924741?s=20

lots of angry oster bashing, among other things

Is there a transcript of this? Or a program that automatically transcribes maybe? Sounds very interesting, but I can't listen to podcasts with my hearing.

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Jul 11, 2010

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Fix posted:

Me. Who deputized you media police police?

Paperwind is the media police Black Panthers, legally observing you with a rifle in hand

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Biowarfare posted:

what i dont understand is why people are so desperate to jam their children in viral incubators ??? is there something im missing? just some desperate need to pretend that it's all over? like even well educated people are acting like this and it's weird

It'll make a lot of money.

Also, there's a stunning amount of parents who hate their kids and don't care if they die

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Jul 11, 2010

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Ice Phisherman posted:

What is covid-19 anyway?

It's just the flu

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Jul 11, 2010

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https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1429961680084209681

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Jul 11, 2010

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https://twitter.com/DrCJohns/status/1430237175120080898

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Artificial banana flavor is based on the old gros Michel banana which went extinct in the fifties.

Not actually true. Artificial banana flavour is made by mixing vinegar with a byproduct of alcohol fermentation. It was once used as a waterproof coating on airplanes. When they started making airplanes out of metal instead of canvas, companies needed a new use for all this banana oil, so they started putting it in candy. It doesn't taste quite like banana because it's not the result of a process to develop the right flavour, it was just lying around.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

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I looked up the SAE rate for ivermectin and apparently it's 6 per 100,000 if administered properly. Horse paste idiots can't even take medicine right.

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Jul 11, 2010

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Steve Yun posted:

Can you imagine this

Happening in hundreds of COVID wards across the entire country, thousands around the world

All day, every day for weeks, months and now a year and a half

No wonder why nurses are quitting, abusing drugs and getting suicidal

I remember a description from a nurse in New York in April 2020. Sealed into a room with 4 people on ventilators for 12 hours and trying to keep them alive. When someone died, she'd ring a bell, then some handlers would roll out their bed and roll in a new patient.

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Jul 11, 2010

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Chuka Umana posted:

btw how much does you probability of dying from covid go up if you're obese?

Three times higher

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

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It occurred to me that the coronavirus is made out of proteins and sugars that someone else ate, and their body made them into virus and then spread into the air. That's gross, I don't want that.

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Jul 11, 2010

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mod sassinator posted:

it's like barbecue

where's the cheese lung image...

I love to eat barbecue that someone else chewed up and spat onto the grill for me

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Jul 11, 2010

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I made these with some images from Sketchplanations. Maybe it'll convince someone to start being safer even though they've had the vaccine.



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Jul 11, 2010

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BeHealthyUSA is completely out of kids' masks. My dad is finally convinced to get a proper mask for my half-sister, are there any sites that have good masks for kids and ship to Canada?

Edit: Looks like Bonafide Masks has them in stock, I just wasn't seeing them on the site at first

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Business Gorillas posted:

Imagine the gall you'd need to say "you need to live with the fact that I might kill you or your loved ones. There are many things I can do to minimize these chances, but I won't do them. You aren't allowed to get mad at me."

Then again, I suppose that's American_politics.txt

Otoh chuds only really start talking like this whole togetherness poo poo when theyre worried about losing horribly, so maybe it's good they're afraid of backlash

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Jul 11, 2010

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I haven't been indoors without a mask for 18 months, but I've been pretty fast and loose around friends outside. Feeling nauseous for the past couple days, now a sore throat. Got tested this morning.

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Tzen posted:


holy gently caress

I thought this was a particularly energetic fetus. It's someone's HEART? gently caress

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Hollismason posted:

Wait are you not suppose to be taking Zinc? I take Zinc on a daily basis. I forget why but I have these easy disolve 50mg Zinc tablets

It isn't a bad thing, but being a chud who thinks zinc is better than the vaccine is a bad thing

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Jul 11, 2010

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DesertIslandHermit posted:

ngl a Jurassic Park movie of dinosaurs getting loose in America, reproducing at great numbers due to lab science, and just becoming a way of American nature sounds awesome. But the Jurassic World movies suck so outlook not so good.

"The velociraptors are feasting on restaurant leftovers and breeding like crazy, all restaurant patrons are required to throw their waste into the marked bins."

"MY FREEDOM TO THROW BREAD ON THE GROUND!!!"

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Jul 11, 2010

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https://twitter.com/kathryniveyy/status/1430887381582761997

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Lacrosse posted:

When people who have tested positive say they've been feeling 'off', what does that mean exactly? I've been feeling a bit off since this afternoon and I'm wondering if this is just normal exhaustion or possibly I'm getting sick. :tinfoil: It's really hard to tell because I regularly get headaches but I started getting really tired a little bit ago and something feels kinda weird about my vision. I overcame the Pfizer shot effects on Sunday so I doubt they'd be making a comeback now?

I had nausea after eating only pasta and bread for a day, and it took a couple days to go away. I threw up in my mouth a little as a result of the nausea, and now my throat hurts. So I got tested for covid because who knows what the gently caress is up. I've been isolating in one room and only looking at a computer screen, so my eyes hurt sometimes, but the normal amount for this behaviour. This paranoia about maybe being sick really sucks.

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Jul 11, 2010

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Is there a joke or reference I don't get?

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CODChimera posted:

50k a day....is that a realistic number?

That would require abject collapse of the hospital system, and a much higher death rate than India. I don't think the US could hit 50k/day. 10k/day is indeed achievable if things keep getting worse without intervention for a couple more months.

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Random rear end in a top hat posted:

So... this seems... bad? What are the chances that this bad boy bumps off Delta and we're back to square one, except with no lockdowns or stimulus this time? Is there a logical reason for that not to happen?

So far, Lambda has been defeated by Delta because it's less infectious, so NPIs are much more effective against it whereas Delta can still spread in an unvaxxed population.

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Stereotype posted:

if the estimates of 5m dead in india are correct it is an average of 83k people a day. their surge lasted 2 months, 60 days. the peak was probably a quarter of a million dead in a single day.

i feel like no one actually did any of this math and is why i keep saying that there is no way anyone really understands how bad it is going to get. it is going to get so bad. so much worse than you can imagine.

I think you may be underestimating how murderously evil Narendra Modi is. We in this thread know the next wave is going to be horrific - perhaps as bad per capita as India's - but I think for it to be even worse seems unlikely. Capital will grudgingly respond when everyone is staying home out of fear.

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Zeroisanumber posted:

Lol you remember that one guy who got like 30 of the things because he kept getting Visa gift cards?

20. I believe it's the world record. He's an honourary member of this thread

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Jul 11, 2010

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Another negative covid test for me. Yay!

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Tzen posted:

someone asked this earlier but maybe I missed an answer
so what happens when someone drops some 'ring worms' long-term? do those parts of the intestinal tract just grow back or what?

The intestinal tract heals very quickly, since it is being constantly digested. But damaging it with ivermectin or bleach can expose underlying tissue to the contents of the intestines, which leads to infection.

From what I've heard from ER nurses, the smell of these infections is legendary.

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Doctor posted:

honestly is there any difference between us praying to number and old cultures praying to whatever god and sacrificing people on altars at this point lmao

Never has been. 15th century Europeans would boil people in big pots to make a vaseline-like ointment from human lard. They were very offended by the Aztecs because sacrificing someone to a god is paganism, killing a useless person for vaseline is just resourcefulness.

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