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Bobby Deluxe posted:The important thing to remember is that (A) Clarkson's attempt at being a farmer is a weird hybrid of the 1940s stereotypical farming ideal but with modern technology, and (B) most modern 'farmers' are essentially land managers who employ a bunch of seasonal workers from abroad on poverty wages to do all the actual work. Maybe theyre unusual, but I don't really recognise this description with the family and friends I have who are and were farmers.
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It all depends on what you're growing. Things that are handpicked (veggies), you need cheap and accustomed workforce for it. Grain and cattle fodder you collect with huge tractors, likewise dairy and poultry doesn't need much workforce with all the modern doodats that have largely automated animal keeping.
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The hardest thing about being a farmer is trying not to wank your own prostate out over the amount of dogs you've shot.
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Nenonen posted:It all depends on what you're growing. Things that are handpicked (veggies), you need cheap and accustomed workforce for it. Grain and cattle fodder you collect with huge tractors, likewise dairy and poultry doesn't need much workforce with all the modern doodats that have largely automated animal keeping. Looking forward to us all going on the Atkins diet then
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Bobstar posted:Stupidest and therefore most likely outcome: the EU does that, the UK doesn't, so the time difference changes twice a year I mean we already have this with America when Dubya changed their DST days away from matching Europe's 'to save energy'. Who knows maybe we'll align with them instead.
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Spent years in the farming industry (mainly pigs, but also arable) - there's a class system within farming itself. You do get the small farmer who owns their farm and works it, but these are disappearing and being absorbed into large estates - which in turn are run by farm managers, who in my experience are generally people from farming families who a generation ago would have run their own farm. Pig farming is mostly different entirely - it's run, in general, by large firms who let out farms to individual pig farmers and their associated stockmen. These pig farmers don't actually own any assets - they get accomodation on the farm etc. Also there's definitely a tier list within farming itself - I'd much prefer to be an arable farmer (woo fixing hedges and poo poo for 9 mo of the year) than a livestock farmer, which is all year round and often in the most disgusting conditions - even within livestock farming those sheep farmers have it easy compared to pigs.
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Noon is when the sun is at its high-point above the Greenwich observatory. Everything else is just the French being special or people deciding to live at other longitudes on purpose.Bobby Deluxe posted:The hardest thing about being a starmer is trying not to wank your own prostate out over the amount of alpacas you've shot.
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Time zones are fake and that's why we should all just agree China has the right idea by just ignoring them.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I'm not sure I follow this. I'll try again, then. Electricity in the UK is generated from a number of different methods, but the marginal generator is generally gas-fired power stations. In this context, by marginal I mean the one that's making the least profit per kWh generated, so is the first one to turn off as the power price falls. If there's not enough electricity generation to meet demand, National Grid instruct more generators to generate, and that comes at a higher cost than buying power on the wholesale markets. This drives power prices to be at or above the cost of the marginal generator needed to meet demand. Combined Cycle Gas power stations - that is, where you have both a gas turbine generating power, and use the waste heat from that to produce steam and drive a steam turbine to also generate power - are somewhere between 49% and 52% efficient. The industry standard that we use for calculating profitability is 49.13%, mostly because that leads to some really easy conversions when buying gas and selling power. Ignoring the charges incurred by emitting carbon for a second, if a 50% efficient gas power station is deciding whether to run, it needs to buy 2 kWh of gas for every kWh of power it produces. This means that it only makes a profit by generating if the power price is twice the gas price. The additional costs of generation - such as carbon - then come into the mix. The cost of emitting carbon is based on a government tax of £18/tonne, plus one carbon emission certificate. These are selling for about £55/tonne. The overall point of this? With a few exceptions (warm, windy, sunny days where we don't need gas power stations online to meet demand for power), there's a hard floor for wholesale power prices at around 3 times the gas price. If energy retailers were allowed to charge at cost with the abolition of the price cap, you'd still see retail electricity prices at 3 or more times retail gas prices.
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^^^ Ah, OK that all makes sense to me now.Bobby Deluxe posted:The hardest thing about being a farmer is trying not to wank your own prostate out over the amount of dogs you've shot. You don't seem to like farmers much. And yet you eat food. NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Oct 31, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1454758874309873665?s=21 Nationalise the debt and privatise the profit, eh?
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what about sausages tho
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I wonder if there is not a significant subset of people in the country who think "nationalization" actually just means bailing out private companies. I mean other than the politicians.
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^^^ wasn't that the oval office who pestered a girl who's dad just died? OwlFancier posted:I wonder if there is not a significant subset of people in the country who think "nationalization" actually just means bailing out private companies. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 31, 2021 |
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Leftist policies (Sun edition): Gender-neutral genders St Paul's to become a gay mosque Tax on sausage to pay for benefits Benefits on taxes to pay for sausage Everyone becomes an asylum seeker Holidays to bad terrorist states and not good terrorist states Antisemitic quantities of kitchenettes Sinn Féins break into your house at night and change all the language settings on your freeview box to Irish except BBC Alba which gets changed to Welsh
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Bobby Deluxe posted:what about sausages tho  Normal country.
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As I said in PYF, for that money it better be made out of soldiers.
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OwlFancier posted:As I said in PYF, for that money it better be made out of soldiers. Could be mostly made out of sawdust and filler. You know, like actual WW2 rationing sausages.
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Price needs to be given in euros, weight is already metric which pound is not.
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feedmegin posted:Could be mostly made out of sawdust and filler. You know, like actual WW2 rationing sausages. Lumber prices are up so... 
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feedmegin posted:Could be mostly made out of sawdust and filler. You know, like actual WW2 rationing sausages. I already buy asda smart price sausages and they are both tasty and also like 80p.
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RDevz posted:I'll try again, then. Thanks for the effortpost. It sounds like this is vulnerable to a bit of enroning? If I own a wind farm that breaks even at 10p/kWh and an idle gas turbine that would break even at 30p, what's to stop me taking a bit of windfarm capacity offline "for maintenance" until the grid instructs me to switch the gas turbine on and raises wholesale prices to pay for it? Wouldn't it be more cost effective for the national grid to have nominated reserve generators who it pays through a separate mechanism to the wholesale market so that they have no effect on that market rate? Overheard this very middle class story today: ...they were ignoring the poison so I put down a glue trap and that worked. You can only use them once which is a bit wasteful. I wasn't really prepared for the mouse to still be alive though. So I put the whole trap in a plastic bag alongside a ramekin full of bleach and vinegar. Hopefully it'll be dead from the chlorine gas when I get back.
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Battle of the Somme memorial mousetrap.
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OwlFancier posted:I already buy asda smart price sausages and they are both tasty and also like 80p. Mechanical meat reclamation wasn't invented until the 50s and didn't really take off until the 70s - between that and the massive "improvements" in livestock farming in the same period, it's no wonder non-cut meat is cheaper per calorie than livestock feed was in the war. Purely coincidentally that's also the time e.coli and other foodborne diseases started roaring back into vogue and the letters "BSE" entered into the lexicon.
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I've only encountered glue traps once - at my in-law's house - and they're horrible. Hearing the panicked squeaking in the middle of the night, seeing a glued mouse writhe around in terror, ripping it's own body off the trap was downright disgusting. And having to pick it up and dispose of it while the mouse was still alive wasn't exactly fun. I've never had a mouse infestation but if I ever do I'm not allowing those things anywhere near the place.
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Why would you ever use a glue trap when a bucket with some food in the bottom catches mice just as easyOwlFancier posted:I wonder if there is not a significant subset of people in the country who think "nationalization" actually just means bailing out private companies. I really don't understand how people don't make more noise about nationalisation these days given there are some obvious examples of it working way better than private industry. I remember East Coast (the train company) got nationalised when it went bust, and suddenly the service improved dramatically. The prices were cheaper, the trains less crammed, they had decent food/drink etc etc. I think they did better business-wise too. But of course they sold it off to Virgin and everything went to poo poo again, until Virgin shat the bed and it had to be renationalised as LNER, which is, again, weirdly pretty decent! But no, it must be operated by the free market so they're planning on selling it off again, for some reason. It's a very very clear demonstration, imho, that none of this has anything to do with efficiency or cost or whatever other bullshit, the drive towards privatisation is always framed as a smart, objective cost-cutting exercise but in practice it almost never works out like that, this is purely an ideological thing - things must be private even if it's shown time and again that it makes things worse for everyone. Don't even get me started on utilities and stuff. Is there any reason electricity and gas and internet and phone and the rest of it couldn't just be paid for through tax on a like water is (if we have to pay for it at all, ofc, but lwt's start simple). One big national electric organisation, sets standardised national rates, easy. There's nothing less fun than having to 'choose' between a hundred different providers who all have slightly different terms and prices. Just tell me how much to pay and leave me alone, god. It all comes through the same wire anyway from the same power plants. Why overcomplicate things? It's proper 'choice choice choice all the choice but actually no choice but you're choosing which arm you want broken' neoliberal fundamentalism and it makes me loving so tired and bored and miserable. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 31, 2021 |
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Just get pet ferrets. Like in general.
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Endjinneer posted:Thanks for the effortpost. It sounds like this is vulnerable to a bit of enroning? If I own a wind farm that breaks even at 10p/kWh and an idle gas turbine that would break even at 30p, what's to stop me taking a bit of windfarm capacity offline "for maintenance" until the grid instructs me to switch the gas turbine on and raises wholesale prices to pay for it? It'd probably be better value to take the gas turbine out of service "for maintenance". The reduction in capacity should have the same effect on market prices, and you don't lose the 20p/kWh from replacing your wind generation with gas generation. However, there's a suite of European regulations called "REMIT" (Regulation of Energy Market Integrity and Transparency) which came in about 8 years ago, which defines this behaviour as market abuse. These regulations got transposed into UK law when Brexit happened, so they're still in effect. Breach of REMIT incurs both criminal and civil sanctions, so there's a reasonable chance you'd find yourself on the wrong side of Ofgem investigations and fines for doing that. Ofgem does have teeth in this area - InterGen had to pay out about £37m a couple of years ago following an Ofgem investigation into their market activity over four days in 2016. National Grid historically operated a bunch of reserve contracts to keep otherwise uneconomic plant which would have closed open for use in emergencies. It turned out to be pretty expensive compared to the standard balancing markets.
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RDevz posted:"REMIT" (Regulation of Energy Market Integrity and Transparency)
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I wonder if there's any value in tracking when "GAME OFF" trends on Twitter as a proxy indicator for climate change. Like normally you see a flurry of them between late November and early April and the occasional localised burst throughout the year, but this Sunday there's games off for waterlogged pitches literally all over the country, from Torquay to Ross County. I've never seen anything like it this early into winter, The local gymkhana and clear round jumping I was going to go to was cancelled due to rain having flooded out the field.
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ThomasPaine posted:Why overcomplicate things? It's proper 'choice choice choice all the choice but actually no choice but you're choosing which arm you want broken' neoliberal fundamentalism and it makes me loving so tired and bored and miserable. Privatised profit, socialised costs is obviously the main goal, but a tired bored and miserable populace is a secondary benefit
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Guavanaut posted:US legislature is leaking again. Yeah, that one is all on the European Commission.
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Angrymog posted:The local gymkhana and clear round jumping I was going to go to was cancelled due to rain having flooded out the field. Okay that's worth tracking for a very different project I have in mind, and while I have you here can I ask what size blindfold you take and if you have any preferred brand of cigarette?
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