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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Rochallor posted:

I understand the metaphor, but is catfood even significantly cheaper than people food? I don't have any pets but the people I know with cats constantly complain about the price.

yeah per calorie big bags of animal food are dirt cheap compared to people quality food

in any event it's largely an old-timey thing because pre-social security it was common that destitute/disabled seniors would have to eat animal food (or non-human quality food), or even roadkill to survive. iirc the 'keep seniors from eating pet food' was one of the major bits of imagery from the campaign to get social security passed and yeah it's quite an image and it's stuck around

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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lol the gop is really trying to build an entire comeback narrative off of something that hasn't even happened yet and that is, as far as anyone can tell, currently still pie-in-the-sky dreaming

early voting in va is 600% what it was in 2017 and has massively, hugely favored dems so far

Herstory Begins Now
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gop.txt

quote:

President Joe Biden jumped into the district’s special election with an eleventh-hour endorsement of Democratic state Rep. Allison Russo on Monday. Former President Donald Trump already had backed Republican Mike Carey, a coal lobbyist.

Herstory Begins Now
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camoseven posted:

Prior to 2020 it was only available for a week before the election and you needed a "legitimate excuse". It's a massive increase but it's not because people are EXTRA PUMPED this time, it's cause it was basically inaccessible previously

that said, turnout as a whole appears to be very high, even outside early voting

Herstory Begins Now
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Peter Daou Zen posted:


idk where the original post is, but shout out to you for calling virginia p much right on the money

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Booourns posted:

https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1455716232007757825/photo/2
At the very least, next time the democratic party should not run ads for their opponent lol

just incredible

Normy posted:

Apparently they sent those ads to Democratic voters to scare them

just incredibly dumb

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Mellow Seas posted:

Just because the campaign was bad doesn't mean every individual thing they did was bad; sending those in a way that is targeted towards people who do not like Trump probably isn't the worst idea. If you're going to make your whole campaign "try to frame this conservative cosplaying as a moderate as a Trump acolyte," as McAuliffe inadvisedly did, then it's probably a good idea.

The problem, though, is that the overall campaign strategy sucked, rather than that particular implementation of it. Just more money spent not making an affirmative case to vote for Democrats.

counterpoint: there's a way of going negative that isn't literally sending out promotional materials for your opponent.

also how many dems in 2021 aren't actively connecting republicans to all the bad poo poo the gop stands for

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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re the federal stuff about 'why don't they pardon people with weed convictions' and the answer is that they largely have. there have been drat few federal prosecutions of non-organized crime level weed cases for at least a decade now and there have been several waves already of identifying people in federal custody for non-violent weed-related offenses for early release. Presumably some still exist, but by and large the huge, massive carceral problem wrt non-violent drug crimes is state level.

tldr: federal prisoners locked up for drugs (both violent/non-violent) account for 2% of american prisoners

eviltastic posted:

This isn't in response to any particular person, and isn't directly relevant to the rescheduling talk, but is kind of interesting context: in terms of bureaucrats doing things the slow way, the news made the rounds a few weeks ago that DEA is looking to significantly increase the legal production of weed and a bunch of other schedule 1-2 drugs for research due to increasing medical interest.

https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...d-assessment-of

Several of the increases are in the triple or quadruple digit percentages. Five hundred grams of LSD is quite a bit of LSD.

As far as unilateral executive action, here's a Brookings article from 2016 regarding rescheduling and emphasizing, among other things, that in their view strong public approval for Obama's (in)actions under enforcement discretion meant they were likely to stick. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...-state-systems/ I mention it not so much for the rescheduling content but because it's the Brookings Institute enthusiastically supporting a regulatory scheme allowing for blatant violation of the laws on the books.

e: grammar

500 grams of lsd is an astronomical amount of lsd. like 5,000,000 doses :stare:

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Nov 3, 2021

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skylined! posted:

More like 50,000. Still a lot.

5 gams = 5,000,000 micrograms. A dose is about 100 micrograms.

they approved 500 grams my dude, not 5 grams

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp

46.1% of the federal prison population are there on drug crimes. I know that Herstory is correct re: federal weed prosecutions, and the number of people in state prisons for drug offenses is at least twice this, but it is still very significant.

number of people in state prisons for drug offenses is like 20-40 times that, depending on whether you include crimes that came about as a result of addiction or just people who got popped for drugs. In my state, the state prison population is as much as 80+% people in prison for drugs or crimes connected to the hard-drug addiction lifestyle. The official number is lower, but the addict lifestyle leads to incarceration a huge amount of the time that I regularly heard 80-90% from people working with prisoners and former prisoners.

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Nov 4, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
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Lib and let die posted:

You don't even need to leave the google search result page to know why we're sending interlopers to Nicaragua.

Why is the US loving around in Nicaraguan elections? Well,


ortega and the sandinistas have been in power multiple times and ortega personally for ~15 of the last 20 years. it's not really the same as the standard 'a leftist gain some power, regime change them!' foreign policy

Herstory Begins Now
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Hellblazer187 posted:

Ortega sucks and is essentially a dictator but US sanctions are like the worst possible thing. All that will do is make a bad situation worse for the people there. gently caress that.

idc if they sanction ortega personally, but yeah the last thing nicaragua needs are sanctions

btw if anyone here is familiar with nicaraguan politics, you should look up who Ortega had arrested because it really isn't some nebulous oppositon figures, it's the other major candidates

Hellblazer187 posted:

There is genuine domestic opposition to Ortega. I've met some of them. There were massive protests a few years ago when Ortega tried to cut the social security system. Those protests saw college aged kids getting shot in the streets by the police forces. It's not a good situation and Ortega is not like, a left wing ally at this point just because he claims to be a socialist.

yeah pretty much

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Sedisp posted:

They are spending 200 dollars a month on car maintenance. What in the world?

tfw your list says you drive an import, but your maintenance bill says you drive some shitbox luxury car that's always falling apart

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:

Randomly assign each municipality a time zone from the 24 available.

let the fcc regulate/sell time zones so they don't get overused

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Lib and let die posted:

yeah it's very obviously bait and I don't know why it doesn't get punished. i brought it up in the feedback thread (one of them) and I guess it's not something worth making any changes in D&D for so :shrug:

I mean this website has a forum with the 1/6 capitol as a background so put two and two together

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Jizz Festival posted:

Where were the eternal optimists like you when trump was in office? We really could've used someone pointing out all the good things still being done by that administration to keep everyone's spirits up!

What good things would these be?

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Jizz Festival posted:

The checks are the most obvious example, but of course the point I was trying to make is how hollow such positivity seems when it's about someone you think is bad.

i think people are gonna be positive about anything they perceive as good and i'd posit that even the most cynical people here about american politics legit saw drat near nothing positive in trump's 4 years that was actually the result of trump's actions

Herstory Begins Now
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

How has it been almost 3 days and nobody knows why half a dozen people seemed to have died from heart issues, another several were trampled to death, several dozen were in ICUs, and another 200+ were injured?

Some of the families are blaming Scott and suing. Investigators still say they don't know exactly what happened or if the heart issues are related to the cause of the stampede.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1457812077528166411

cuz it appears to be a bog standard trampling/crowd management fuckup. cardiac arrest just means peoples' hearts stopped, it doesn't mean there was some heart-targeted foul play. cardiac arrest is what you'd expect for people getting crushed

Sephyr posted:

Not usually in people with young/healthy hearts. If it was just syncopes and people then beimg trampled, it would be one thing. But a full coronary event is weird, and several even more.

Mind, there's a lot we don't know. Could be drugs, could be poor organization and first aid making people with lesser conditions die and the showrunners blaming it on heart attacks. Who even knows in this post-truth world.

there's no reason to assume that people at a concert are all young and in good health.

also from accounts, people were being crushed while still standing. substantial external pressure on the torso absolutely kills people regularly, see, for example, all the people who die while being restrained

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Nov 9, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
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until there's evidence beyond a cop who was working crowd control (and who therefor obviously has an interest in not being found liable for the deaths) making an entirely uncorroborated claim, the vastly simpler and so far entirely sufficient explanation of too much crowd in too little space combined with other more typical concert factors seems by far the better explanation.

and yeah it's entirely likely people were on some drugs, but tbh that's a whole separate issue from whether the crowd was managed in a catastrophically negligent way, which unambiguously appears to be the case.

Herstory Begins Now
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Shrecknet posted:

I lived in Wilson, Wyoming for a year (population 33!) and we had a post office, so imagine how small Wankers Corner is

just a single whack shack town

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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presumably if that was a requested probation it would say 'requested probation' in the probation reason

Herstory Begins Now
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Yeah romney was a weak candidate who made some huge blunders and who struggled to even be perceived as minimally human, much less in touch with how anyone with a sub-9-figure net worth lives. Additionally it's hard to overstate how badly the bush administration burned the gop's popularity to the ground

Herstory Begins Now
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Fart Amplifier posted:

To be fair, that sort of thing is basically the reason the forums let you pay to change someone's avatar

sa unironically pioneered outrage engagement and especially monetizing it

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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considering that deal is like a 2025 and on delivery date, the plan for those weapons (and indeed most of saudi arabia's arm purchases for years now) is an eventual war with Iran for supremacy in the region. Like they've been spending germany in the 1930s % of their gdp on military spending for almost a decade now. Ironically the yemen conflict was meant to be a test run and kind of a precursor skirmish that was meant to clean up some pesky border raids while putting iran on the back foot. Instead the KSA ended up somehow losing a genocide that they were committing.

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

This is loving psychotic

The current global order can be accurately described as this, yes.

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Nov 11, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:

Describing not being partner to murdering hundreds of thousands as "some kind of principled stand" like it's a vague interpersonal moral tiff rather than a distinct red line glowing so bright you can see it from space? I dunno dude

lol Obama loving helped start the Yemeni genocide under the impression that the Houthis were Iranian proxies

idk if you are unaware of the history of the region, but refusing to arm groups has had absolutely massive ramifications (eg the us' refusal to arm the egyptians adequately, for one) for everyone involved and afaict that is what is being referenced? It's a statement about how utterly uncaring the international arms industry is and not an endorsement of it, unless i completely missed someone endorsing the status quo

like we seem to be back at the 'explaining something means you support it' poo poo

FlamingLiberal posted:

The idea of the Saudis getting into a hot war with Iran makes me laugh

It's not impossible, but Iran would be in Riyadh in like a week

Yeah it's not even really hyperbole to say that ksa managed to lose a genocide. The buildup for war is still very real, but hopefully their unbelievably inept performance was enough to push the timeline for the war with iran back at least a few more years.

And to say nothing of Iran, even the Houthis made it clear that they had ample ability to cause damage within KSA more or less with impunity. The KSA border with yemen remains as unsecured as ever (and KSA is probably the least capable of defending it that they ever have been) and the Houthi's drone capabilities clearly are able to destroy saudi infrastructure basically at will.

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Nov 12, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
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The core issue is that if you have 500 billion to buy weapons, you are going to be buying 500 billion of weapons, idk how much morality factors into any of it. If the US doesn't sell them weapons they'll just buy them from russians/french/british/china/whoever. Afaik there isn't a single country's arms industry that is particularly concerned with how moral the sale/purchaser's intentions are.

Like even insofar as american support gets with held from KSA's military because of the blockade/genocide in yemen, it's primarily via limiting military cooperation and coordination and training and maintenance. The arms sales were never even remotely on the table.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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Yes 'fine and good' is definitely my point in outlining that, idk how you get to that conclusion lol the whole situation is peak military industrial complex dysfunction.

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Nov 12, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
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unless i've missed something, pretty much the entirety of the left backlash aginst aoc is from specifically some of the twitter left and the jimmy dore types, the latter of whom idk if we're still even calling them left at this point

Herstory Begins Now
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Epic High Five posted:

I've always thought President AOC was a fun thought experiment but after seeing how things shook out with Bernie and to a greater extent Corbyn, I hold no illusions as to the likelihood of an actual leftist - even a wishy washy socdem - ever becoming President outside of something like a Huey Long running on a Republican line

Yeah there's about zero chance of it under the current political alignment. A lot can change in 10-20 years, but as it stands, there are just vastly too many conservatives and center-left types relative to everything else.

Herstory Begins Now
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the_steve posted:

Harris was the original establishment choice for presidential nominee, but then Klob murdered her on stage during one of the debates and she was so monumentally unpopular that not even the DNC could thumb the scales hard enough to save her, so they went to plan B - Backdoor her in with Biden.

And the rest is current events.

i don't think harris' profile or popularity, or hell, for that matter, personal relations with any of the people who mattered, were ever high enough that she was the establishment choice. She was never all that popular, always had extremely glaring weaknesses, and as far as anyone knows, she got the nod from biden precisely because 1) he'd promised to select a black woman as vp as part of the deal with clyburn and 2) harris had a relationship with beau. Both as a presidential and as a vp candidate she was never even near the establishment favorite afaict

To this day idk what the actual perceived upside of selecting her as a vp was for biden beyond honoring the commitment biden made and that she wasn't other, more polarizing vp candidates. She maybe gave him some law n order upside given that was what trump was trying to attack him on, but beyond that, idk. She's turned out almost exactly how it seemed like she would from day 1. That said, I thought she was the worst possible pick for vp, especially from the perspective of trying to seriously win, but clearly I was off base on that. I also thought biden was a dogshit choice for trying to beat trump, but again lol clearly I was wrong.

btw went back and checked and the her popularity peaked during the primaries at ~15%, outside of some pundits who wanted to fire off some pundit takes, I don't think she was ever seriously considered the establishment favorite or meaningfully a front runner

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Nov 15, 2021

Herstory Begins Now
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Highly recommend just putting the 5 worst people in the thread on ignore. idc who you even consider the 5 worst, that's up to you, but it will improve your experience here immensely

Herstory Begins Now
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:

This article makes an important point, and I'd like to add that it isn't just doctors and nurses feeling this at big institutions. Pharmacy was already in a destructive race to the bottom before Covid, and our corporate oligopoly running it has only made things immensely worse. Everyone is exhausted, almost everyone I know from cashiers to techs to pharmacists in the half of the state I cover has caught covid by now, our staffing is cut, our lunches cut, our hours expanded, our responsibilities ballooned and people are going to the hospital with cardiac events from the stress. CVS killed a pharmacist by refusing to let her leave while experiencing a goddamn heart attack- I've got people here having to stay home because they've had aneurysms, or shown up to work with a BP of 190/110. I found out the pelvic pain I worked with over the summer was a kidney infection I developed while working too long without getting to sit or hydrate enough, which isn't a surprise because several of our pharmacies operate 8a-9p with one pharmacist and don't even have bathrooms.

Everyone who can retire or leave for another job already has, and everyone else is looking to do the same. We're overrun and patients are pissed because of the wait times, screaming at us every day. God help you if you're a parent and a pharmacist, because you aren't seeing your kids again. If they get sick, I hope you have family members you can trust to care for them because there's no one left to cover for you.

That's all before the political issues. No one masks in Louisiana, half the population believes the vaccine will make you infertile, severed from God or give you alien babies, doctors tell their patients not to mask while writing them zpak/ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine/famotidine cocktails at insane doses for multiple month's supplies "because they don't believe that malarkey about them", and too many of my coworkers AGREE WITH THEM. I'm so tired of having these fights every day. As soon as my student loans are done I'm out forever.

Sorry for the derail. We did have a darkly funny event last month when corporate bought pizza for our chain. By bought pizza, I mean they gave everyone prepaid cards, ordered dominos and had us send techs to collect it just to have all of the cards decline. Any techs who paid out of pocket will NOT be reimbursed.

Pharmacy is legit in some like upton sinclair style labor situation and the stories I regularly hear from pharmacist friends are just loving insane. one buddy used to send me like weekly videos of his [major pharmacy chain] store getting robbed and this was in addition to them expecting him to work 80+ hours a week while obsessively monitoring productivity #s at every minute of the day. poo poo is so utterly broken in corporate pharmacy.

Nursing and EMS are in a similarly dysfunctional, non-sustainable, and life-destroying situation. I don't even know what could be done to fix all of it outside of hugely overhauling labor protections/laws for health care workers

Herstory Begins Now
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A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1460297812042788871


its a very bitter lol that all the memes joking about cops being psychotic murderers turn out to be just 100% factual reporting said in a joking tone :smith:

e: uh, massive CW: animal abuse for that thread on twitter :whitewater:

those were not joking memes fyi, those were people being entirely serious

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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The entire point of being in the capitol was to interrupt the certification of biden's victory in order to prevent the peaceful transfer of power

seems pretty simple

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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lol @ a forum where you get probated for pointing out someone is trolling (especially if it's a friend of a mod)

perhaps the mods mshould talk among themselves about this and change that dumbass rule

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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drat I have a heavily trolled thread to deal with here. oh well, i know what will fix it

let's probate people who call out trolls!

Herstory Begins Now
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the_steve posted:

If only there was some sort of button you could push to Report people you thought were trolls. :thunk:

i mean yall probing people for backseat modding while the front mod seat is empty

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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look, literally all the dnd mods are burned out or well on their way or literally haven't posted in dnd in months. let's structure things though where the only possible way that trolls can be dealt with is by a burned out mod remembering to look at the report queue 1-2 days later

what could go wrong

or, yknow, people could just not be probated for calling out obvious trolling

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Herstory Begins Now
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the_steve posted:

When was the last time that person even posted in this thread?

I legit don't remember if they were officially forum/threadbanned, I asked a Real Mod to check into it when they were available, but I don't think I've seen a post of theirs here for a couple weeks now, so that sounds like a threadban to me.

cuz they were a 2016 love/gudetama alt account lol, not cuz anything at all was done about it

Herstory Begins Now
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Groovelord Neato posted:

The Arbery case is not going well for the defendants. That is one where I actually would be surprised by a not guilty even with our incredibly racist system.

I haven't followed that case, but the facts of that case alone are just bonkers and lol those idiots just could not shut the gently caress up to save their lives.

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Groovelord Neato posted:

They said so much dumb poo poo when they talked to the cops. It makes it even more infuriating that that (former?) prosecutor advised the cops not to charge them based on the video of the murder originally. There's body cam recordings of them saying they had Arbery "trapped like a rat" which demolishes their self-defense claims.

Yeah I had to stop following it cuz the details are just too loving infuriating and it sure seemed like this was a routine they'd done before... except somehow the cops didn't let it play out normally this time.

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