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SirSamVimes posted:Show is still extremely good and now significantly more gay I knew they were gonna go for it after they leaned into jayce/viktor so hard but jesus CHRIST, riot
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2021 12:15 |
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Caros posted:I'd singed doesn't flip over a table and yell I'm going to be sour. I really like the balance they've struck with her so far, I'm obviously a fan of retconning her to be more tragic for all the reasons you said, but being Fun is an important part of the character and I'm glad they kept that around. A lesser writer would've gone all in on the Very Serious Trauma (and retconning characters to have overly grimdark backstories is absolutely something riot has done before), so I'm really glad they kept her unmistakably Jinx while fleshing her out Monicro fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 13, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 13, 2021 21:07 |
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It's no surprise with the rest of the voice acting in the show but Ella Purnell has done an incredible job of voicing jinx as well. just a perfect portrayal of a character bursting apart at the seams mentally, especially in those little rambling moments you mentioned
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2021 23:41 |
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queerbaiting is when 2 people of the same gender dont have sex
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 07:09 |
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They definitely don’t go as hard in the paint as with cait/vi but “Oh this isn’t my bedroom” while getting caught sneaking around with jayce was, a lot
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 09:36 |
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bou posted:Before i go into detail why i like this show, i want to praise my favourite scene There's a lot of really tiresome tropey stuff this show explicitly avoids, and I'm extremely thankful for it. That's a great example, and also just the fact that they still love eachother was really nice and unexpected for me. I thought they were gonna do what so many shows would and have them still hate eachother because of a Big Misunderstanding and Learn To Remember They're Still Sisters blah blah blah, but having them still care about eachother and drawing the conflict from jinx being scared and confused and unsure who to trust (which, jeez, fair as hell) is infinitely more interesting imo
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 20:28 |
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Vermain posted:It remains to be seen if it'll have much impact on the plot, but I'm convinced that Mel is working for Noxus. Aside from the obvious character traits - highly manipulative, considered a disappointment to the family, ruthlessly ambitious in her own right - they keep dropping little hints here and there. She mentions having "investors" lined up for Hextech; she mentions to Jayce that there's "a lot he doesn't know about her"; and the painting she's doing in her room is Noxus proper, with the Immortal Bastion in the back and warships in the front. It's especially suspicious that the writers chose this set of episodes to bring up Noxus' existence obliquely, too. The fact that she seems genuinely a little taken by Jayce is going to end up being her big character dilemma when it comes time to betray his research, assuming I'm right. Probably worth noting that they'd have to do a fair amount of legwork in act 3 setting up what noxus actually is if they wanted to do that and have the reveal resonate with people unfamiliar with the source material. So far they've only been mentioned in passing a couple times, and you might get an inkling of what they're about from the one guy saying "what, do you expect us to tell the NOXIANS their shipment is delayed", but as of right now I think it'd fall pretty flat as a reveal. Not impossible, especially with how brutally efficient this show is at worldbuilding, but yeah
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 22:46 |
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Gimp Yordle deserved better than to be overshadowed seconds later by the most important moment in television history. Gimp Yordle deserves to be remembered
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 22:08 |
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yeah singed is essentially Runeterran Mengele and while I don't really agree with the complaint in the first place, I think he's probably gonna put any complaints about lack of villains to bed in act 3
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 00:15 |
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why do we have 2 separate people on this page not counting the guy last seen hooking up a pokemon to a Pain Generator as a villain
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 04:17 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:Because Singed being a villain is so obvious it need not be said. He's uh, probably the most nightmarish human villain in League by my last review of all the playable champions. Jhin might be worse but a) he's much more stylish and definitely has something wrong with him mentally and b) Singed is a war crime specialist. it just seems weird to me to make a whole thing about how its problematic to set up viktor as a villain and then ignore the guy getting shown proudly torturing a plushie Open Source Idiom posted:And Jinx is a total villain. She's the lead bad guy's favourite enforcer (a dude who literally kicked a man to death as a form of therapy). Pretty sure she'd have to do a bunch of murders to get into his good graces, and to gain the reputation she has on the street. do you think jesse was a villain when he got enslaved by the nazis (and jinx was literally a traumatized child so dont try to say she had agency)
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 04:28 |
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if you remove every character and plot point that conflicts with this, the show is very ableist
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 04:32 |
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Rio was dying and isn’t a villain
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 05:28 |
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Riot themselves are also making a fighting game and an MMO if either of those interest you. They're clearly angling for league of legends to become a huge multimedia IP and hell, sign me up
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 22:46 |
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Dude that ending loving banged I wasn't expecting them to set up for season 2 so aggressively but I'm both amped for it and surprised by how much material they managed to give themselves to work with for it cait and vi not kissing is suboptimal but again, season 2 oh also the ending of episode 7 was loving SICK holy poo poo e: oh i forgot to mention and might as well gush more before i go to bed, but oh my god that warwick teaser Monicro fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Nov 20, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 11:14 |
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also
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 11:15 |
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Asema posted:I could gush about that fight scene in episode 7 so much that is a literal masterpiece of animation i dont mean to exaggerate but the episode 7 ending might be the high watermark of visual media
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 23:08 |
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DekeThornton posted:I have a hard time thinking of anything better really. Some of Pixar's best maybe, but apart from that, I don't know. spiderverse is still the GOAT but being in the same conversation as pixar and the best-animated movie of all time is dece company, imo
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 23:17 |
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My genuine advice as someone who has like 2k hours in league of legends is to try wild rift if you're interested. it has All Your Favorite Stars Of The Hit Netflix Series Arcane (i think) and all the actually fun stuff from league but is way more digestible
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 02:14 |
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Vermain posted:The announcement of a second season made me completely okay with it. It definitely would've been weird and felt forced with the way they've set up the story to keep going, and the amount of straight-up text they've written into part 3 (probably the highest amount of affectionate face touching in animation in decades) is more than enough to keep me happy for the next two years or however long it's gonna take. Yeah the fact that it goes past even the cartoonishly overt subtext and becomes a literal plot point in act 3 (with jinx realizing they had feelings for eachother ["it's just a goodbye hug!"] and becoming murderously jealous) is good enough for me for now. Hopefully the absolute avalanche of fanfiction season 1 is presumably about to summon will be enough to keep me held over until then Monicro fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Nov 21, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 04:44 |
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I did think it was pretty funny that in a show with jinx, caitlyn, etc, the character the show was horniest for by far was jayce
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 06:48 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:Not fully up to date on the show, but I suspect a lot of this is down to Tencent and Chinese distribution; there's nothing in the seven episodes I've seen that couldn't be vanished as easily a line from a Bond film, or a photograph from a Star Trek, or whatever. I mentioned this already and vermain already made some good points about this but I think them being clearly into eachother is a big part of jinx's motivations in act 3; you COULD handle it the same way with them just being platonic partners but several of jinx's lines/hallucinations and her seeing them together on the bridge indicate pretty strongly that she realizes they're an item and is hurt by it. It's the big sister equivalent of a kid getting mad about mom's new boyfriend, and that makes total sense with her abandonment issues with vi
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 22:49 |
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the biggest complaints about skins in the league community has gone from "too many skins for the most popular female characters" to "too many skins that make the champion a hot shirtless boy" and if thats not societal progress i dont know what is
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 04:28 |
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bagrada posted:Is the sheep and wolf ghost pair from this game? What's their deal and are they in the new canon? I remember thinking their trailer or reveal was creepy as hell. Yeah you're thinking of Kindred! They're basically the universe's grim reaper (with the lamb putting down people who go peacefully with a quick arrow and wolf chasing down people who resist) and it's left ambiguous whether they're an actual entity in the universe or just a folk story like the grim reaper. they definitely have one of the coolest aesthetics in the whole game imo
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2021 02:42 |
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Season 1 made such a point to give league fans That Good Fanservice poo poo and not use dumb frustrating tropes for drama that I almost can't imagine the two of them not shacking up next season. they'll find a way, i trust them
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2021 00:08 |
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Swains rise to power (which involves draven/darius) would be a killer story to tell in the arcane style, but unfortunately I don’t see how they could do it justice in season 2 even with all the noxus setup they did
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2021 23:26 |
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Asema posted:Didn't they add Anthony Burch to their lore team He wrote a comic jinx starred in to help retcon ziggs' lore a few years ago, and for some reason he did this
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2021 04:55 |
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the weird thing is that there's consistently some interesting points in there (I definitely hadn't noticed how often "evil" characters in league have some sort of disability until this thread brought it to my attention) but it's always couched in paragraphs of absolutely insane takes like "heimerdinger wasnt important to the plot"
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2021 03:21 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:I think in particular it's more a sign of how bad Zaun is that all the "bad guys" from Zaun are injured by living in the place. It's less these people are evil because they have a disability but more they have some injury from living in a toxic shithole and that their life situation drives them towards being a criminal or a violent revolutionary. Lord_Magmar posted:Like, I think almost every human Zaunite champion besides Vi has a pretty visible injury, and that's not really about them being villains as much as it is about Zaun being well, Zaun. It's not a place where you're going to have a healthy upbringing, it's not a place where you're going to have safe working conditions, just walking through Zaun can be fatal if you're on the wrong side of a chemical spill. Jinx I guess also doesn't have any physical injuries but well, she's still an example because well look at her. Ya it's definitely not a hard rule and I agree the show does a pretty good job of writing around it, but it made me think about champs like jhin and swain as well and either way it's definitely something worth thinking about. even then though as other people have said in this thread there are characters like lee sin (blind) and sona (mute) who are very explicitly good guys so yknow
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2021 04:18 |
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he knocked over that girl's tower
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2021 15:26 |
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DekeThornton posted:The only character who really believed in eat the rich was Vi.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2021 15:57 |
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kaisa is samus you goofballs
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2021 16:45 |
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Which is why I think it's basically a lock that we'll see a series/movie/season/whatever set in Ionia someday, there are so many fragments of stories about the fallout of the invasion both culturally and personally that makes it incredibly ripe for an arcane-style thing to tie together. The fact that it's where all the popular anime characters are from doesn't hurt either from a business perspective
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2021 17:14 |
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Someone else in this thread pointed out that cait's lore is about rooting out the corruption in piltover, and I think that'd be a pretty natural progression of the plot in s2 and would give an easy mini-retcon to where vi's just helping her out because girlfriends
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2021 05:22 |
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Yeah it was totally fine imo. vi saying "you're a jinx" was a bit of a "we're some kind of Suicide Squad" moment but was probably the best they could've done all things considered
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2021 04:32 |
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They're a polycule. Thank you.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 23:41 |
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I'm way too dumb to participate in this larger discussion but uh, do you remember what happened at the end of that scene that indicated it may not have been a rah rah hero moment
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2021 00:23 |
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KVeezy3 posted:The context of the scene is that it's cool/fine to kill revolutionary soldiers, but state violence explicitly draws the line at child death, unlike the monstrous revolutionaries. This is approaching "the Palestinian radicals are using child shields" levels of ideology. The scene begins with the factory workers being rounded up at gunpoint by the stormtrooper knockoffs and ends with jayce being clearly mortified by the whole thing. I'm really, really not sure how the show endorses it outside of "cool music plays for a bit" pidan posted:This, but unironically. We see no less than five of the central characters literally cured by Shimmer. Take away Shimmer and both Vi and Jinx are dead*, Silco possibly also dead or at least down an eye, Sevika doesn't get her cool arm prosthetic and Viktor doesn't get to be happy about outrunning a boat.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2021 23:26 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 03:45 |
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KVeezy3 posted:You may need to elaborate here, as in the real world we already inflict animal pain/death on a scale unimaginable to (In the best of cases) assist in the development of various human life-saving/changing medical technology. Their point was specifically that the show doesn't do anything to display that shimmer is harmful besides "it's purple". There might be an argument to be made that shimmer has good uses, but when scenes like the one I screencapped and the one in the pit exist, going full Singed Did Nothing wrong is a clearly absurd take KVeezy3 posted:Well that, and the cinematography/editing/choreography/horror monster imagery of the revolutionary soldiers - all of which ends abruptly when the child death occurs. On that note, the narrative repeatedly utilizes the child death signifier to delineate its moral boundaries which, in turn, draws a direct through-line between the monstrous revolutionaries and ruthless empire expansionism. I mean, yeah, it's presented as a big cool action moment and then abruptly snaps back to reality when jayce shoots the kid, which 1:1 reflects jayce's feelings on the situation. Using music and cinematography to convery a character's emotional state is a pretty elementary concept, and it definitely does not mean that the show/movie is endorsing those feelings at all times. Monicro fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jan 1, 2022 |
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