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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Namtab thank you and please take as much time as you need to decompress from this poo poo.


From what I gathered, it looked like the people that brigaded into the thread got probes that were then undone. Which is a prime example of the whole "no support" thing that burns people out.

I guess there's a discussion of forums self-moderating their own content that needs to be had.

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




So yes we can all agree, having a few posters with Diplomatic Immunity was a bad idea after all.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

marumaru posted:

If I remember this video right he makes mostly good points other than the usual "24 fps is the ideal framerate for anything that isn't a game" take that everyone in the industry repeats.
They're wrong. It'd be sick to have 40fps anime battle sequences, just literally financially impossible and technically extremely challenging (animators have been doing 24fps or less keyed animation for the last 600 years, they'd have to relearn it)
To me it kinda feels like the cgi anime discussion. Most of it does suck, but then you have orange perfectly blending it with traditional animation in hnk and it owns. Likewise the awesome sakuga scenes we all love are "higher framerate" than normal anime scenes. It's plenty good enough but maybe it'd be awesome to have even more frames? Just not feasible
That said all these horrible interpolated anime videos are disgusting and until we have extremely advanced ai that strushg/straight up draws more frames as a real human would it'll never work

Not quite, Noodle clarifies his point in his follow up response video that he never actually makes the argument that 24 fps is ideal/best for non-gaming mediums; he explicitly even says higher frame rates can look great, when the artist intends for it. Which is basically the crux of his video, artistic intent and animating according to the basic fundamental principles of animation are very important and its more the trend of putting anime fight sequences into interpolation software and uploading them to youtube that he's railing against.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

frankly games can be fine on 30 fps :twisted:

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
20 is plenty tbh

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Endorph posted:

frankly games can be fine on 30 fps :twisted:

:ohdear: *Holds War Thunder tightly*

Kagaya Homoraisan
Aug 28, 2019

You say, run away
Instead, you get scared
For the way that I feel
Drops out into all this disorder

Endorph posted:

frankly games can be fine on 30 fps :twisted:

lets all remember totalbiscuits most enduring legacy is steam curators where people say stuff like "this vn is locked to 30 fps and thats Bad"

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

lets all remember totalbiscuits most enduring legacy is steam curators where people say stuff like "this vn is locked to 30 fps and thats Bad"

i am not going to play Ciconia without a FOV slider

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

FilthyImp posted:

Namtab thank you and please take as much time as you need to decompress from this poo poo.

From what I gathered, it looked like the people that brigaded into the thread got probes that were then undone. Which is a prime example of the whole "no support" thing that burns people out.

I guess there's a discussion of forums self-moderating their own content that needs to be had.

the people who went in there were ultimately in the right is the thing

my initial reaction was "man gently caress them" and then i looked at what made in abyss actually was, going no further than what was discussed in the thread

that shouldn't've been here

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Patware posted:

the people who went in there were ultimately in the right is the thing

my initial reaction was "man gently caress them" and then i looked at what made in abyss actually was, going no further than what was discussed in the thread

that shouldn't've been here

They can be terrible people doing terrible things even if it's regarding a terrible thing.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Endorph posted:

frankly games can be fine on 30 fps :twisted:

This. Big time.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Endorph posted:

frankly games can be fine on 30 fps :twisted:

I remember having my mind blown when i could push 60fps on battlefield3 or something lol. remember it with crystal clarity

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

lets all remember totalbiscuits most enduring legacy is steam curators where people say stuff like "this vn is locked to 30 fps and thats Bad"
The FPS Police ding multiple fmv games for only being 24hz also, lmao

Big Leg
May 22, 2020

a corpse is talking

lol

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Supremezero posted:

They can be terrible people doing terrible things even if it's regarding a terrible thing.

I'm sorry but no, the thread was a problem that wasn't being addressed. it's no sin to crash a thread like that

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

lets all remember totalbiscuits most enduring legacy is steam curators where people say stuff like "this vn is locked to 30 fps and thats Bad"

it bugs me now when my mouse doesn't move at 165hz in games that have a mouse cursor

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Supremezero posted:

They can be terrible people doing terrible things even if it's regarding a terrible thing.

but they were right

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

calling namtab a pedo apologist for not immediately blamming literally everything, or calling the owner of the site a limp dick new york jew, or w/e, is not good, even if the thread was also bad. the people crashing the thread werent the problem but a lot of the qcs discourse was.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

MiA always skeeved me out and I was always kinda leery about it being in open discussion, especially after the last couple pedogeddons that hit adtrw, but namtab was 100% correct that banning the op 5 years after the fact would’ve been a waste of time and done nothing to satiate the people in helldump 2 qcs, who at that point were entirely keyed up and weren’t gonna stop until either they tuckered themselves out or Jeffery returned from whore island early to personally suck all their dicks and give them direct control of the site.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

the qcs discourse was absolutely hot unfocused madhouse trash

RevolverDivider
Nov 12, 2016

QCS is basically helldump at this point and should be gassed into oblivion.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

as it usually is

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Endorph posted:

calling namtab a pedo apologist for not immediately blamming literally everything, or calling the owner of the site a limp dick new york jew, or w/e, is not good, even if the thread was also bad. the people crashing the thread werent the problem but a lot of the qcs discourse was.

I feel bad for namtab and that post by cum was not good

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

MiA always skeeved me out and I was always kinda leery about it being in open discussion, especially after the last couple pedogeddons that hit adtrw, but namtab was 100% correct that banning the op 5 years after the fact would’ve been a waste of time and done nothing to satiate the people in helldump 2 qcs, who at that point were entirely keyed up and weren’t gonna stop until either they tuckered themselves out or Jeffery returned from whore island early to personally suck all their dicks and give them direct control of the site.

actually everyone would have loved if the people who are in charge of this site had just gone "wow, what the gently caress, huh? let's get that sorted" and all the people quoted in the op of the current qcs thread got bopped. it would have been an easy slam dunk

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Patware posted:

the qcs discourse was absolutely hot unfocused madhouse trash

madhouse's output is up and down in general

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

grieving for Gandalf posted:


actually everyone would have loved if the people who are in charge of this site had just gone "wow, what the gently caress, huh? let's get that sorted" and all the people quoted in the op of the current qcs thread got bopped. it would have been an easy slam dunk

There were multiple people calling for namtab’s head for poo poo that happened literally when they were not a mod yet, gently caress outta here

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

grieving for Gandalf posted:

actually everyone would have loved if the people who are in charge of this site had just gone "wow, what the gently caress, huh? let's get that sorted" and all the people quoted in the op of the current qcs thread got bopped. it would have been an easy slam dunk
i dont think everyone quoted in the op of the current qcs thread deserves to get banned. the people who were really religiously defending the weird stuff sure but just the people making fairly benign posts like 7 years ago about the early material of a show that gets worse as it goes, i dont really agree. like colonel is quoted in that thread and i dont think theyve even watched made in abyss.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

There were multiple people calling for namtab’s head for poo poo that happened literally when they were not a mod yet, gently caress outta here

I'm not saying anything about that, pal. I'm really not laying anything on namtab, they took on the mantle at the worst time, I honestly feel bad

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Chat Thread XXVIII: The one where we didn't talk about Made in Abyss (for 5 pages)

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Endorph posted:

i dont think everyone quoted in the op of the current qcs thread deserves to get banned. the people who were really religiously defending the weird stuff sure but just the people making fairly benign posts like 7 years ago about the early material of a show that gets worse as it goes, i dont really agree. like colonel is quoted in that thread and i dont think theyve even watched made in abyss.

okay, there's one person who shouldn't be. I'm not going to take every quote from that op and place it here, but I think reading the ones where they're really gleeful about the manga/anime's content or they're defending it like whoever was complaining about it at the time was just being a prude about child nudity of all things, it speaks for itself. it's clear that they've got to go, I don't know how else to feel about it

I post in this subforum every now and again and I would like it not to have that kind of thing

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Actually you shouldn’t ban me

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

grieving for Gandalf posted:

okay, there's one person who shouldn't be. I'm not going to take every quote from that op and place it here, but I think reading the ones where they're really gleeful about the manga/anime's content or they're defending it like whoever was complaining about it at the time was just being a prude about child nudity of all things, it speaks for itself. it's clear that they've got to go, I don't know how else to feel about it

I post in this subforum every now and again and I would like it not to have that kind of thing
yeah, i agree? im saying theres some people in there who watched one or two episodes and fairly bluntly pointed out what the material pretty obviously is, and theres people going to the mat about it or shouting down anyone raising concerns. the latter should be banned, the former is probably fine. like in a thread full of people being purposefully obtuse about it i dont think spaceflower or homura and sickle is at fault for pointing out the show is making a lot of creepy sex jokes. and people saying they just like the show without specifically mentioning the sex stuff as a positive can be forgiven since as mentioned in that op itself stuff gets normalized to an extent, especially with the show airing on toonami/the manga being available in barnes and noble, its easy to look past stuff if youre somewhat inured to it. thats a forgivable slip imo.

the people who should be punished are grouchio going 'the gore porn has my attention' or whatever. and all the uses of the unsmith smilie.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jul 12, 2022

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Patware posted:

the people who went in there were ultimately in the right is the thing
Some guy went in posting 'ban me you sick gently caress pedo enablers' which, uh, is not very constructive.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Ya'll need to chill the gently caress out and watch some anime

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Endorph posted:

and people saying they just like the show without specifically mentioning the sex stuff as a positive can be forgiven since as mentioned in that op itself stuff gets normalized to an extent, especially with the show airing on toonami/the manga being available in barnes and noble, its easy to look past stuff if youre somewhat inured to it.


this is my only disagreement here. if it has hosed up stuff like lots of naked middle schoolers and something about a living toilet, I don't know how you just get past that

El Burbo posted:

Actually you shouldn’t ban me



you don't have to respond to this, you don't owe me anything, but can you talk a little about this? it seems like you watched the show or read the manga, enjoyed it, and defended it here

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Mister Facetious posted:

Ya'll need to chill the gently caress out and watch some anime
But that's what got us in this mess to begin wjth!!!

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

FilthyImp posted:

But that's what got us in this mess to begin wjth!!!

i watch a lot of anime where no children get pissed in hth

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

i really dont notice fps stuff outside of the really bad upscaled action stuff but my eyes are turbofucked so its probably that. my wife cant stand the 60fps OPs people upload but they look the same to me

Fluffdaddy posted:

We are definitely looking for more Admins. But be it 5 or 20 admins, the fundamental problem is that our feedback mechanism is broken and is designed to actively abuse moderators and admins alike.

i kinda gave you poo poo the other day but genuinely its nice to see staff talk frankly about this stuff so thanks and sorry, this whole thing is hosed.

Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

Can someone start a new chat thread and we can close this one. And go maybe 5-6 pages not talking about QCS, MIA or any of that?

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

FilthyImp posted:

Some guy went in posting 'ban me you sick gently caress pedo enablers' which, uh, is not very constructive.

i would have banned em, then been like my bad, my bad guys. bad shoot, pure reflex. im undoing it, but actually not talked to anybody and went and played monster hunter. then i would come back and be like oh poo poo... nobody did it? we'll fix this up. but then go back and play monster hunter some more lol.

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Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




i made a new thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4007016&pagenumber=1#lastpost

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