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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

This was always my favourite thing about Douglas Adams, he made almost no attempt to maintain continuity between the various adaptations of HHGTTG because he recognised that they're completely different mediums and so you can pretty much had to tear it up and start from scratch (although it definitely helped that the Guide itself provided him with a cheat code to put in huge amounts of jokes that would be impossible to incorporate into dialogue). He kept most of the important characters and concepts, and most of the best jokes, but felt free to completely obliterate everything else to make it work in the new medium.

It's interesting - if predictable - to see how lots of fans of The Witcher Series of Video Games really disliked the second season of the TV show.
"RIP Witcher lore", comments Youtuber who is a huge fan of the games that ripped up, rewrote and wholly invented large sections of lore to make a good game.

I never managed to watch past the second episode of Game of Thrones because it stuck too closely to the books.

If you're reinventing an IP for a new format, you should deviate from what went before in any event, because why the gently caress am I going to watch this just to revisit plot beats I already know, but you should also make the best thing you can for that format even if that involves taking liberties with the source material, because otherwise why bother paying to use the IP?

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

I want everyone involved in this to be melted down for slag

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

NotJustANumber99 posted:

if only there was a way for the car to drive itself through it

Would it have to be on fire at the same time?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Either that or they had wind the Ukrainians had arranged for an attractive woman to sit on Boris' table for dinner.
Which was a tactic used by China a lot when Boris was Mayor of London.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

The Question IRL posted:

I think she was called Miss Honeypott.

The running joke was that whenever a Chinese company (or the Govt) wanted to get planning permission, or seal a trade deal, they'd invite Boris to a nice meal and have him sat next to or directly opposite an attractive woman. Deals were sealed.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Today I feel a bit unwell, so I have woken up early to do a lateral flow test, so that I can call in sick nice and early and spend the day alternating between taking some naps, playing some video games and occasionally checking my work emails.
LFT is negative.

I'm not sure I believe it, but I now get to run the gauntlet again; travelling on one of Greater Anglia's plague wagons - overcrowded, because they're running a 'reduced timetable' and with no effort made to enforce mask-wearing - desperately hoping that I can stave off catching covid so that I can actually go on my holiday in a couple of weeks.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Do youse really only have one air ambulance for the whole east of england?

Isn't it also partly/mostly funded by charity?
[fake edit]
Yes, the helicopter, along with maintenance is funded by the charity. As, presumably, are the salaries of the paramedics and doctors seconded to the service.

Because god forbid politicians ever actually pay for something useful out of taxes

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

"islamist plot to take over birmingham schools" makes it sound like gove + isis were doing die hard in a school building.

It's the Independence Day cartoon but Gove is flying a plane into Osama Bin Laden's head

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
"A moderate".

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

I'm sure Carrie is a pretty awful person in general - dated a Sun journalist; then married Alexander dePfuckface Boris Johnson - but I can't help but feel there's a mile-wide streak of misogyny in all the Tory apologists claiming she's the reason that one of the most appallingly narcissistic manchildren the Tory party has ever produced is a loving atrocious Prime Minister.

Boris wanted to be Prime Minister because he wanted to be Prime Minister.
There were no ideological reasons for it; no wrongs he wanted to put right. He just wanted to be Top Dog.

But he is also a famously lazy oval office who would much rather someone else do his work for him than have to stoop to the level of someone who has to actually do some work himself.
It is entirely believable that Boris is just the kind of workshy upper-class poo poo-for-brains failson who had never encountered a problem that being a toff oval office couldn't fix before he became Prime Minister. And his response to this was to continue being a toff oval office and expecting that the world would conform to his personal view in the way it always has previously.

There is, in case fuctifino is too stoned to make sense of this otherwise, NOTHING GOOD, MORAL OR HONEST ABOUT BORIS JOHNSON. And everything that has happened since he became Prime Minister can be levelled at that mop-haired oval office's feet.
[edit]
And gently caress off if you think otherwise

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

fuctifino posted:

But can we please cut out condescending poo poo as displayed in the first half of your quoted sentence. Thanks. Appreciated.

I was drunk rather than stoned, but fair point.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Guto was the prick who threatened to beat up a journalist in a lift, right?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Answers Me posted:

Yeah the shocking thing really is just the audience whooping and hollering, not the content of the joke itself or who told it, as it shows where this culture is at when it comes to GRT hatred.

Like, if you wanted to be charitable to Carr it wouldn’t be inconceivable that he was gunning for the classic ‘wince, gasp, muted laughter at the awkwardness of it’ response you’d typically get with an edgy-joke-gone-too-far routine. but no, the audience loving loved it, which is pretty horrifying.

The fact that pretty much everyone 'well known' who is publicly calling Carr out for the joke also spends most of their life making GBS threads all over GRT groups and individuals, makes the entirely appropriate condemnation ring very hollow.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Spotted in the Schadenfreude thread:

https://www.ft.com/content/d8489e04-3e46-465b-9caf-e9f26b770384 posted:


Spain’s Socialist-led government has achieved one of its biggest policy goals after a single vote cast in error secured parliamentary approval for labour reforms that are a condition for aid from the EU’s €800bn coronavirus recovery fund.
The measures are intended to cut the proportion of the Spanish workforce on temporary contracts, currently around 25 per cent — by far the highest level in the bloc.

While the labour reform was agreed with business and union organisations in December following months of negotiations, the government was unable to build a stable parliamentary majority for Thursday’s vote.
Instead, the uneasy constellation of parties that has backed prime minister Pedro Sánchez over the past two years splintered, leading the government to appeal to centrist votes to pull together the thinnest of majorities.

In scenes of confusion, the measure was approved by 175 votes to 174 after the president of the chamber of deputies had initially declared it defeated. The legislation only went through because a member of the People’s party, the centre-right opposition, appeared to mistakenly back the measure and was not permitted to change his vote.

The PP accused the president of the chamber, the Socialist Meritxell Batet, of rigging the vote, blamed parliament’s IT system for the error, and said it “would make all the necessary complaints so that justice is done”.
Failure of the bill would have been devastating to the Sánchez administration.
“This is the most important structural reform of this parliament,” said Pablo Simón, professor of politics at Madrid’s Carlos III University. He added that the reform was more likely to endure because of the compact with business and unions and because it ultimately sought to tweak, rather than overturn, labour market changes enacted by a previous centre-right government a decade ago.

Spain’s labour market remains the country’s biggest economic black spot. Although the number of people in work has reached an all-time high of 20m and joblessness has fallen to its lowest since before the financial crisis, the unemployment rate of 13 per cent and youth unemployment of 30 per cent are both twice the EU average.

Supporters of the 2012 measures — which reduced redundancy pay and gave company-specific negotiations precedence over sector-wide deals — say they added much needed flexibility to Spain’s dysfunctional labour market. Critics say they made inequality worse. A pledge to repeal those rules was a feature of the 2019 pact that established the minority leftwing coalition government.
Instead of scrapping the old rules outright, the new labour reform largely focuses on the drive against temporary contracts, which will be limited in many cases.

TLDR: ostensibly progressive economic plan passes only because a right-wing politician is too stupid to use his computer. I also appreciate the "You rigged the vote" histrionics from the neoliberals.

There's some quality 'left-wing splitters' in there too, if that's your drink of choice on a Sunday evening or you feel like filling out your Bingo card.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

bump_fn posted:

in the us there are DAs who are pushing hard for reforms of some form like krasner but the cops actively fight back and cry on the news every day about it

Yeah, let's not look at the USA for examples of how the justice system can be reformed.
The UK system is by no means even good, but at least we don't allow unqualified yahoos to be judges or district attorneys just because they've been able to remortgage their house to afford a couple of low-budget TV commercials.

Obviously Cameron brought in PCCs, but those cunts have no real power and are just there to provide Westminster with a baseline of voter turnout against which they can compare every Local or General Election, and declare a 21% turnout a "success".

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Spangly A posted:

The BBC seem to be falling into the same trap that people here keep talking about - I don't understand this so it must be very technical.

I doubt it. Remember that the BBC is largely staffed by liberals.
And liberals love poo poo like NFTs.

Really, the biggest surprise would be if someone at the BBC hadn't invested big in any NFT named in the piece

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
It's very brave of the Labour Party to say that they don't need money.
I'll admit that I'm surprised; I though the daily rate for tarquins more or less relied on the employer having a consistent cashflow. On reflection, though, I guess a lot of them do have secondary sources of income, so it's probably not going to result in the brain drain that senior Labour sources would have feared.


Also, Neil Coyle is a good lad who certainly isn't a raging alcoholic, and certainly doesn't have the Evening Standard on speed-dial.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Didn't she tell BBC Radio this morning that she had no intention of resigning?

It's actually disappointing in a predictable way that the Met Police gets its first gay female Commissioner and she's just as much of a oval office as every 'bad apple' officer out there.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Trying to fill out an online form in preparation for cancelling my holiday when my PCR test inevitably comes back positive and it's moderately confusing that the 'country' drop-down box randomly changes between English and French and sometimes doesn't include 'United Kingdom' or 'Britain' as an option in any language I can identify :britain:

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Dabir posted:

Poor little Russia, so scared of the Great Enemy, it has no choice but to invade Georgia and Crimea and forment civil war in Ukraine as a prelude to invasion there too. Oh if only all these tiny little countries that wouldn't stand a chance against Russia's army alone didn't want to join a mutual defense pact for some reason.

Isn't it just that Putin invades somewhere whenever Russia's domestic problems become a distraction from the Glory Of Putin?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
It's a sports thing. NFL maybe?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Kokoro Wish posted:

In any case, this poo poo is off topic.

It isn't off-topic when the Tories use it as a dead Ukrainian cat strategy to distract from Boris being a drunk loving idiot.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

I'm not sure drawing equivalence between kicking a cat and (at the very least) facilitating a paedophile network is really the way to go here, however bad 'kicking a cat' is.

And it doesn't really need to be spelled out that the number of people outraged about the cat-kicking is far in excess of the number of people outraged that David Cameron killed 150,000+ people through austerity.
Still, Rachel Johnson has plenty of reasons to get in the sea anyway.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Also, I've just done online check-in for the outward leg of my holiday and lmao at an airline trying to charge £30-£60 to change seats on a flight where there are maybe a dozen seats actually taken.
:capitalism:

/\ /\ /\
I suspect Russia can read the room better than that.
The only thing more likely to make the West help is if Ukraine was overtly fascist.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I've found the "I'm not owned, you're owned" titles of porn videos to be quite amusing over the last couple of years:
"Sexy Ukrainian gets destroyed by big Russian dick"
"Ukrainian cuck watches as hot girlfriend takes enormous Russian dick"
etc
etc


It's nice to know that porn producers/recyclers have found a way to make money from the geopolitical situation.

[edit]
I'm leaving this at the top of the page, since it goes well with the thread title

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

bessantj posted:

Could be good. A big list of people who know about having a good time.

Should have a decent amount of MPs on it.

A bit brain-dead, this, even by Labour standards.
Just imagine how many people have got videos of Keith, coked out of his brain, saved on an external hard drive for just this eventuality.
I mean, poo poo, is there anyone on the Labour front bench who doesn't look like they've personally funded a year's worth of guns for a Colombian cartel?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Failed Imagineer posted:

I call dibs on JRM

In Minecraft, ofc

I bet JRM beats his children. He seems the type
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Or pays someone to do it for him

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I've been out of the country a week: has anything notable happened in the meantime (not Ukraine; I get that)?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

This would be loving stupid.
Sanctions that impact ordinary people in Russia will be spun by Putin as "the evil West destroying your life".

Just take Putin's money and then do the same to all of his friends and backers.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

crispix posted:

if Russia invaded GB the tories would charge people for guns

I was thinking along these lines while I was on holiday.
During the pandemic, you could go somewhere (shop, hairdresser, etc) and pay £2 for a mask.

Lisbon airport last week - pack of 10 for 70c.

If the Govt had committed to making facemasks equally cheap to get, there'd have been better compliance with mask-wearing across the board.
But no, they couldn't be arsed.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

therattle posted:

That’s tremendous. I love that.

I'm a big fan of the first comment being "IT WAS THE EU THAT MADE THOSE HOUSES BE EMPTY ALL THAT TIME".
Even when you've got an article literally stating that it was the Tories that withdrew funding for the homes to be demolished and rebuilt, there's a brown-noser trying to blame someone - anyone - else.

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

That wasn't there when I posted it, LOL.

I've seen so many comments similar to this in the last few weeks blaming the EU or Labour for things that are done entirely by the tories.
How on earth do we counteract this complete ignorance (not meant in a pejorative sense but in the literal sense)?

I suspect a lot of it is just bullshittery, i.e. trolling.
Otherwise... well, you don't. The Tories are making life increasingly hard for younger voters, so the best move really is to try to make your case to younger voters who will hopefully take an anti-Tory voting stance into the next couple of decades of General Elections.

The other approach is to look at where funding comes from. The Tories have actually done a really good job of devolving responsibility for their spending cuts by firstly giving the money they're about to cut to local government. This has given them a very handy degree of separation from the impact of their spending cuts.
Mr gently caress-the-EU blames the Labour council for cutting the number of bin collections, but the council did this because the Tories cut the amount they give to local government by 40%, and local councils have a very limited number of ways they can raise income. The most equitable is probably parking fines, but that just results in rage from all quarters, so cuts to local services it is. There is scope for you to make some inroads with this argument, but it does rely on the person you're discussing it with not being a complete moron.

Which, well, this is the UK after all...

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