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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


:stonk:

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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

HappyHippo posted:

https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1499844253786288133

I don't want to restart NFZ chat but the poll gives you a sense of where the American public is at (it almost certainly shows that many Americans probably don't understand the implications of a NFZ).

Not gonna lie, I'm 40 and didn't know what a NFZ was, or the implications of one until I googled it last week and read this thread.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


Intel has also announced not to sell to Russian customers as well.

e: Also AMD:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-amd-nvidia-tsmc-russia-stop-chip-sales-ukraine-sanction

Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Mar 5, 2022

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

alex314 posted:

Confirming UA has working tank factory doesn't sound like a smart move..

Yeah a lot of these tweets are kind of mind-blowing in the "why in the world would you even post this on social media???" sense.

Not too familiar with drones, but that Bayraktar tweet above, the comments suggest that it's 6km from the target. How easily do these get shot down? Can infantry AA take them out? It just seems like it's shooting fish in a barrel.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Shibawanko posted:

i know nothing about army stuff but seeing this is just so odd. the concept of running a tank stuck into the ground and then just leaving it sitting there and walking away is weird to me

Yeah, so like what do you do after you get your tanks stuck in mud? Go back to your commanding officer and say "yeah those are stuck in mud so we're back for another 5 tanks please."

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Holy loving hell, that video that Zelensky showed Congress is absolutely heart-breaking. It suddenly got very dusty in my house.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


:eyepop:

Hell yes. How long would stuff like this take to get to Ukraine if it were coming from the US?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


“Elite”

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


That's a massive loving explosion, yikes!

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Squibbles posted:

Nice. They posted an English audio version too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLtv2exMbU

This is loving great.

"Or you can sell them on eBay"

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Bone Crimes posted:

I think I've seen a few videos now of anti-tank missiles, and the range on them and the ability of users to just be anywhere and use them is pretty remarkable.

I know others have said that tanks are still very useful, but I have to think their value overall in light of this war has taken a huge hit. I've seen the video below and the one where you can barely see the the user on the roof of a outbuilding and a few others. I just would have zero confidence if I was in a tank and I knew the opponent had several thousand of these distributed in small teams, esp. with night vison.

Even in a situation where I'm entrenched position, if I was dependent on armor for most of my impact, I just would not want to be up against these weapons + good infantry in a war of attrition.

:nms: for tank hit

code:
 https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1511792576667525124

That's impressive for like a 1.5 mile shot, wow. I would NOT want to drive anything through Ukraine with thousands of these all over the place.

One reply to that tweet that made me laugh:
:nms: since it's a reply to :nms: tweet and I have no idea if it'll show the original tweet
code:
https://twitter.com/mmeijeri/status/1511794180082872326?s=20&t=N09zaTKjxr8PxLnvKGsq0w

Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Apr 6, 2022

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

For the video game crowd if you played Battlefield 4, remember the UCAV? How annoying it was to just explode out of nowhere from a tube launched drone anyone could fire from the other side of the map and there was literally nothing you could do to avoid it? That thing was directly modelled off the Switchblade.

This is literally the first thing that I thought of when the switchblades were given to Ukraine. I loving loved them and used them so much that I became surgical at killing everything with them: snipers, tanks, helis, boats, everything. They ruled so much I made a video montage of them.

https://youtu.be/kX1WanK5R08

Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Apr 15, 2022

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


I'm catching up on the thread, but just wanted to reply and say holy poo poo, this owns.

Just imagine sitting at your computer in Russia, tapping in assembly code to a terminal window and you get vaporized in a targeted attack. Wowzers!

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

So what's Scholtz' deal? Is he just a colossal boob that refuses to help beyond the bare minimum? Or is he just afraid of their gas being shut off by Russia?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

ummel posted:

Very :nms: Drone munition dropped directly into the sunroof of an armored Russian vehicle. Very zoomed in aftermath from the drone, so cut the video short if you want to avoid that.

"Ukrainian military 92 separate mechanized brigade, named after chieftain Ivan Syrko, threw a projectile from a drone right into the hatch of a car with Russian soldiers."


code:
https://twitter.com/Flash43191300/status/1520030398650195968
What a shot though, my god. Drones are ridiculous.

That was an absolutely ridiculous shot. The truck was starting to move too :stonk:

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

KitConstantine posted:

Really fascinating project by the Kyiv Tourism Department of all things
https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1526535020256858117?s=20&t=6hHzQlFaTynJuFfXlG9hww
https://kyivregiontours.gov.ua/en/war

It's very spooky to move around inside the destruction

CW for clearly destroyed buildings, aftereffects of war, but no bodies that I've seen

edit: Holy poo poo the Irpin one. They must have done it with a drone since the pictures are halfway up destroyed apartment buildings and you can zoom in.

Assuming Ukraine successfully repels Russia eventually, it's unreal to imagine just how many years and zillions of dollars are going to be spent getting Ukraine back to just the previous state. Wowzers. Like, how do you clean and start rebuilding (and get the raw materials!) all those destroyed cities up even within a decade?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


https://twitter.com/John_A_Ridge/status/1528907779754315776?s=20&t=3_mCIFe8ly0lpe7qNaXKqQ

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

That's great news about the HIMARS, but why do countries (especially the US) keep announcing exactly what equipment they're providing to Ukraine? Is it just a "hey look at how much we're supporting?" It seems like terrible opsec to announce to Russia what equipment they're going to be fighting against in a couple weeks.

I guess there's not much Russia can do about it. And maybe it's showing them that they can't just roll across borders and take what they want without a global response?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Warbadger posted:

They'll undoubtedly get these to the front even they have to move them on trucks to get there. That's when the real fun begins:

You say they should be comparatively easy to repair - and I guess on a surface level that makes sense as they lack a lot of the complicated electronics and such the newer vehicles have. The problem is they don't share parts or ammunition with anything active in the Russian inventory (probably why these were still intact) and will require their own logistics train. You want ammo? Well you need to pull out some super old 115mm ammo because the 125mm ammo the T-64/72/80/90 use won't work. You want to fix an engine? Well, bad news because this thing is a stretched T-55 chassis with its own special engine nothing else uses and practically every other component is unique too because this is a stopgap design and 1960's Soviet politics were insane. This lack of commonality hits even harder because they haven't been in service for several decades meaning not only has nobody been maintaining these particular vehicles, but nobody around has been trained to maintain them and any replacement parts you do have kicking around are also all ancient. Vehicles like tanks tend to break down periodically even without leaving it out to rust in a yard for a couple decades, especially in hard use like in combat.

Even if they go through all the trouble to run a parallel logistics effort to keep these things running they aren't especially capable, even by 1980's standards. These T-62's were the bottom of the barrel and even the eventual modernizations were a "well, what can we do to make them a bit less obsolete without spending much money" kinda deal. No electronic sensors to spot threats and even the traditional optics aren't great compared to 1970's productions like an original T-64 or an old export T-72M. No fancy fire control computer or stabilizer here so it has to stop to fire or reload, plus no autoloader in a vehicle where loading was infamously difficult. The armor is poor by even by early 1970's standards so you have these gigantic, ridiculous applique armor kits slapped on to the front of the turret so that at least one part of the vehicle would be protected, at the expense of adding a bunch of off-center extra weight to the chassis/suspension. It's basically a vehicle with the capabilities of a late WWII heavy tank.

Posts like these are great. Thank you for taking the time.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Ynglaur posted:

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1535001763614445568

Does anyone know what about Ukraine will be decided by NATO?

It's pretty wild that we're 3 months into this and Zelenskyy can still travel around Ukraine fairly freely and can even consider a vacation to Madrid.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


https://twitter.com/AzovMolozensky/status/1542448423101640705?s=20&t=sbIFs8ZH4PKRVMfSWgVdMA

lol

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

I didn't understand any of those words, but it was still pretty funny. And accurate.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007


That's a hell of a shot

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

MegaZeroX posted:

No idea about accuracy, but someone on Twitter made an animated map of the offensive so far:

https://twitter.com/Martinnkaaaa/status/1568202821731860483

Wow, that's incredible, if true.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Pennsylvanian posted:

Say it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAMRAAM

No I won't stop talking about SLAMRAAMs.

Whoaaaaaa ohhhhh, black Betty

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

So if Russia can hit the center of Kyiv, why aren’t they just lobbing a billion missiles there hoping for a lucky hit on Zelenskyy?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Deteriorata posted:

Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. :unsmith:

:ukraine:



Whoa, that building looks cool. What is it?

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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Deteriorata posted:

A little Googling suggests it's called the Delrey. An upscale residential/commercial building still under construction.

Thanks.

I would definitely not want to be responsible for all the landscaping.

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