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Oh you're against being invaded? You know who else is against being invaded? Nazis. I guess if you're against being invaded you're pro-nazi.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 20:29 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 01:21 |
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CommieGIR posted:But there just so happens to be some Nazis there, obviously the invasion must go on. Just don't look at the invading Nazis, those are different Nazis.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 20:35 |
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Sinteres posted:I don't think anybody's said the existence of Azov Battalion justifies a Russian invasion, and you guys are punching pretty hard at strawmen. I don't think it's too far off what some of them actually believe.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 20:45 |
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CeeJee posted:This is the 'lol, made you form up a defense fleet' puppetmaster reasoning from Eve Online. It's just a prank, bro!
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 11:16 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I’m inclined to agree with BM. Let’s wait for clean satellite photos before celebrating. I want to believe, hopefully it's not the set up for a false flag.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 11:36 |
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Gros Tarla posted:https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-696579 I'm grateful they protected those 4 pigeons from being blown up by that pile of sticks.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 19:34 |
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Kavros posted:... It's almost like they enjoy how fake it is. But of course they can't be fascists because as we've been made aware, Ukraine has the fascists actually.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 20:16 |
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Wait, are they saying the troops are leaving to go back east or are they saying they're leaving Russia to invade Ukraine?
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 08:35 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:no one is falling for NATO's dumb false flag
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 05:35 |
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GABA ghoul posted:Maybe a new Patriarch got elected? It's just a gender reveal party for a diplomat! Nothing to see here!
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 11:38 |
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Kavros posted:At this point, there's a large number of lines of commentary and personal belief that I'm just automatically checked out of caring about but I remain fascinated by beliefs like: I don't think #1 is a totally wrong thing to believe, I just see it as an pointless argument to have. People can probably make some arguments based on their psychoanalysis of Putin that he was never going to invade. You can't know for certain someone else's mind so this always going to be probabilistic assessment. If you're 100% confident that Putin will invade or 5% I don't see that changing any anything prescriptively about how Ukraine or the rest of the world should be acting.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 12:46 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHCxUFZpzY8 I'm confused by this accusation. Wasn't the Kindergarden on the Ukrainian controlled side? And I haven't seen people talk about Russia calling this an attack by Ukraine.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 16:15 |
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Majorian posted:Everyone's favorite lil' neocon is beating the war drums:
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 01:13 |
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Majorian posted:Biden hemorrhages credibility every time he says an invasion is imminent, and then it doesn't materialize. It makes him look like he's trying to manufacture consent, so he can make a war actually happen. It's the sort of language that the Marco Rubios of the West use when they beat the drums for war with Iran. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1494863649500168193 The intent is behind call out Russia is explicitly to defang any potential justification they might use to actually invade. It also gives an easy win for Russia to point to these as the US being hysterical when the invasion doesn't happen. It incentives Russia to not actually invade or to at least delay. What's the consent being manufactured here? The whole of NATO has ruled out a direct conflict with Russia in Ukraine, no one wants that.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 08:48 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:Nobody wants that but their willingness to impose cost on Russia if they move ahead with it varies, and Washington wants everyone on the same page. If that is what manufacturing consent is then I'm all for it in this case.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 09:24 |
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Majorian posted:I honestly don’t see that as anything more than a lame post-hoc justification for the White House getting it wrong so many times in a row over this incident. Calling out Russia’s potential invasion strategies isn’t going to defang anything. If they invade, it’s going to largely follow the Georgia ‘08 model: breakaway region provokes the national government to send in the troops, Russia send in their troops and drive them off, and the breakaway region gets a new lease on life while weakening the national government. If that does end up happening (and I’m still skeptical), the whole “leaking it to the press so they put out another flurry of panicked pieces” model isn’t going to stop it. There are quicker ways of warning Zelensky. So why would the US being wrong "make a war actually happen"?
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2022 12:12 |
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The Washington Post is no angel.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2022 00:49 |
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Mebh posted:So with Russia being pretty good at modern disinformation campaigns online (as evidenced by hoky poo poo the arguments about this across the entire Internet) I'm assuming taking nearly everything I read with a massive pinch of salt. The aggressor here is Russia, you're nearly always going to be correct just assuming everything that paints them in a positive light in this conflict is untrue.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2022 16:04 |
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Willo567 posted:I get people being worried about a big war, but calling it WW3 is really hyperbolic and dangerous as poo poo How is it dangerous? That possibility has been expressly removed from the table by anyone able to bring that about, outside of maybe Russia.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2022 12:51 |
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Willo567 posted:Because there a lot of people who don't normally follow Eastern Europe politics who are now because of the crisis, and people talking about WW3 alongside the crisis to those uninformed just brings out more misinformation.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2022 14:10 |
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The oligarchs will surely revolt against putin when they can't get their PS5s.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2022 19:39 |
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I think it's just to prevent friendly fire.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 11:19 |
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GABA ghoul posted:First confirmed OSINT front line information Isn't the strategy to let areas be overrun and then cut them off and attack from their rear? pippy fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Feb 24, 2022 |
# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 11:51 |
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EDIT: Replied instead of edit
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 11:54 |
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Paracausal posted:loving eat it Russia I'm getting a "this page doesn’t exist" for this link.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 13:56 |
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CSM posted:Some breathtaking Russian propaganda here: Props to the the guy that managed to quickly find footage of the troops invading and throw it up as she was talking.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 16:15 |
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https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497231090041430018 How will they know the difference between a "Ukrainian Volunteer Fighter" and a Civilian?
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 17:33 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Russia doesn't need to capture a nuclear reactor to have the capability to make a dirty bomb. Correct, but Ukraine does not. I had same sinking feeling when Russian UN guy unprompted accused Ukraine of planing to destroy the sarcophagus.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 01:56 |
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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497553380616683527 Is this significant?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 14:00 |
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ZombieLenin posted:Any photographic proof of the IL-76 claims from last night? Ukraine is not showing any images because that would reveal the US Space Lasers shot them down.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 14:47 |
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They must be getting desperate. https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1497543633293266944
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 15:35 |
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Redgrendel2001 posted:That could be the thermobaric rounds I guess Putin found the mole.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2022 00:17 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/ilya_shepelin/status/1498279645904523267?t=SrPDiXcHNLJEDaPWGKtzNw&s=19 What do the buttons do?
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2022 13:56 |
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tractor fanatic posted:They have nukes So does everyone else.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2022 22:16 |
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Upgrade posted:In this essay I will demonstrate why Mario 64 is necessary to understand the psychology of Putin... Who knows why he crushes turts? Perchance.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2022 19:56 |
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1499080826599919633?cxt=HHwWosCy8beE580pAAAA Are those Nuclear Aliens? I guess the war really did scare off those aliens that were just about to reveal themselves.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2022 21:51 |
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Putin talking right now, accusing Ukraine of using human shields: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2022 17:58 |
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Is the goal to make Zelensky prove he's still in Kyiv so Russia can merc him as soon as he pops his head out of the bunker?
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2022 16:26 |
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freeasinbeer posted:Lmao if alien first contact ends this war. I got some bad news buddy: https://www.wionews.com/science/russia-ukraine-crisis-deterring-aliens-from-making-their-presence-known-says-ufo-specialist-449854
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2022 19:18 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 01:21 |
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/aviation07101/status/1500157654253064195 They're deadly afraid of "being hacked" that they're just going back to analog tech, maybe it's to do with that?
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2022 21:11 |