Sashimi posted:

My local Ukrainian Credit Union gave ways to donate to help both the war effort and the humanitarian crisis.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

You and/or the other goon should probably support your assertions here.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

I didn't say "make another unsourced assertion whose connection to the organization linked is not immediately clear". I shouldn't have to google separately from your one-liners to 1) verify who the UCC are and 2) verify that the Canada-Ukraine Foundation at least works regularly with them.

It does seem like both those things are the case.

CommieGIR posted:

Actual thanks to those who are highlighting troubled groups that people should avoid donating to

Kaal posted:

It probably should be pointed out that the UCC and UCCA refute these allegations and condemn all far-right and extremist views. The CUF fund in question is collecting money to send humanitarian supplies to Ukraine, which they talk about here:

https://www.cufoundation.ca/second-aid-provision-sent-to-support-ukrainiane/

The debate essentially comes down to disagreement over how to characterize Ukrainian anti-communist groups in the 1930s-1940s. Some people see them as mostly nationalists, and others view them as basically fascists, but it should be emphasized that there is not consensus on this and the academic argument (which Himka is part of) is also tied up with debates over the Holomdor and Ukrainian independence.

In addition, there's a contingent of people like Richard Sanders (the other guy linked as "evidence") who are still fighting a rear-guard action against the dissolution of the USSR, and have long diatribes available about every post-Soviet state and their supposed connection to Hitler, NATO, and the CIA.

Kaal posted:

Substantiate it or gently caress back off to CSPAM.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

CommieGIR posted:

Its fine to call out issues, but please don't do this.

cinci zoo sniper posted:

What’s your evidence?

CommieGIR posted:

Gonna be clear: Present the evidence here, because
1. I'm not going to dig through CSPAM, sorry
2. You have a history of making GBS threads up threads here.
3. You make it pretty obvious in your post your goal is to roast D&D rather than help.

So help. Stop turning this into a roast opportunity.

Omon Ra posted:

CommieGIR posted:

Because you redirected it to CSPAM where you are OPENLY roasting D&D. And I'm saying we will gladly consider your evidence, present it here.

CommieGIR posted:

Yes, just tone the snark down and present the evidence. What you have to share is valid, please share it.

quote:

Lyuba Shipovich
Vice President
Prior to moving to the USA, Lyuba was a founder and president of the Zaporizhzhya branch of the Ukrainian Youth Organization “Molodyj Rukh”

quote:

Ukrainian Youth Association (Спілка української молоді; Spilka ukrainskoi molodi, or СУМ; SUM). An émigré youth organization established in Germany in 1946 by members of the OUN (Bandera faction) to attract those who did not already belong to other youth groups. Its initiators hoped to emulate the traditions of the Association of Ukrainian Youth, an organization allegedly active in Ukraine during the 1920s. In its statutes it sets itself forth as a patriotic organization whose slogan is God and Ukraine.

CommieGIR posted:

Did I invalidate his evidence? No. But I'm not going to go dig through the thread where you REPEATEDLY imply that D&D is openly encouraging people to donate to Nazis and use it as a way to dunk on D&D. So no, I will not be visiting your thread. We highly discourage people from dunking on CSPAM in here, sorry you chose to not return the favor.

Thank you. Is there a specific group that people should avoid donating to (I think you said it was related to the Humble Bundle?)

Omon Ra posted:

So are the gang tags no longer being given out because the enlightened nazi hunters and Russian war crime explainers at the other subforum that may not be named took issue with them?

thekeeshman posted:

Do you really think that the hypothetical threat of far-right groups in the future is in any way comparable to the current killing, raping, kidnapping, and just general grab bag of atrocities being committed by the current Russian army, which has a long and consistent history of being in every way terrible and barely better than the actual WW2 Nazis? Nothing any far-right group in Europe has done since literally WW2 has been anywhere near as horrifyingly destructive as the current Russian war crimes, and nothing is making the far-right look better by the minute than the ongoing Russian war crimes.

You don't want the far-right to gain support? Great, that means ending the war ASAP. Which means getting as many weapons as possible into every available hand on the Ukrainian side. You are using distant hypotheticals to discourage people from doing the objectively correct thing here and now, which means you are literally carrying water for Putin. You should take some time and consider how you ended up in this position, and how you can avoid supporting genocidal dictators in the future.

ummel posted:

The about Razom, et al. from bad faith posters is really something.

If you want proof about the good work they're doing, check out their website and don't believe some doofus faux leftist qanon poo poo.

https://razomforukraine.org/razom-emergency-response/

god please help me posted:

Alright, thanks. The allure of the UwU shell got to me, but now that I'm not posting late at night I would rather the money go directly to the Ukrainian government than some rando making a hustle. I heard there was some concerns about how various international donation agencies are sitting on unspent donations, so does buying a pack of "Russian Warship, Go gently caress Yourself" stamps go directly to the government?

Somaen posted:

For some reason the bank of Ukraine's donation mechanism by card is broke, so sending funds here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Back_Alive



Pls wipe << that and give me back the gangtag

CommieGIR posted:

Come Back Alive supplies military equipment and training including to Azov Battalion.